looking to upgrade my current PSu

alabamaman79 · 03-22-2007, 07:34 AM

I have had Antec TruePowerII 550w PSU. Check my full specs for the rest. I'm thinking about a quality 650w PSU. Any suggestions?

I'm going to put the TruePowerII into an older system I have that has a crap PSU that came with the case. I checked the voltages on that PSU and they are way too low.

**linderman** · 03-22-2007, 03:03 PM

the best unit right now for the money IMHO is the antec trio power 650 watt they run around $110.00

If you want the BEST one for your rig then Seasonic S12 600 watt that is wisper quiet FOR REAL but then again sooooo is the antec trio

another real power house is the Corsair HX620

Thermaltake Toughpower makes a 600 650 or 700 ?????? (but only the toughpower here)

those I would say are some of the top picks IMHO

if your current true power 550 has done the job for you, than any of the ones I mentioned in 600 watt versions will easily pull the wagon!

goodluck shopping

alabamaman79 · 03-22-2007, 04:08 PM

I was looking at the Truepower Trio 650w at Newegg.com earlier.

Truepower Trio

I noticed it has multiple 12v rails. I know I've seen you say that isn't as good as a single 12v rail with higher amps. Now, my question is, down the road if I decided to put a X1900 crossfire card in, would the Truepower Trio stand up to the test? I know it has enough juice to push the system in general, but would the multiple rails hurt?

Other than that, I can't seem to find the Seasonic S12 600w PSU anywhere. Got any links to that?

**smz** · 03-22-2007, 05:04 PM

I'm only posting this because I saw a sale at Fry's Electronics for a Raidmax 630W Powersupply for $39 After rebate with a sale price of $79 to get you out the door. I have a raidmax case myself and have used that power supply in another machine and I don't have any issues to report though I can't really say how quiet it is either. It has 2x80mm fans sporting out glossy back with a blue LED in each of the fans. It's quite a nice LOOKING power supply but lets hope it's price is based on performance and not extras like LED's and nice paint.

Check it out for yourself:
http://shop2.outpost.com/product/480...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG
Note the price on the site is $20 more before rebate but the ad I saw was the in store price.

A review:
http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Power...t-Power-Supply

Sorry for budding in here.

Just thought I would throw that out here because that sounds like a heck of a deal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by linderman

the best unit right now for the money IMHO is the antec trio power 650 watt they run around $110.00

If you want the BEST one for your rig then Seasonic S12 600 watt that is wisper quiet FOR REAL but then again sooooo is the antec trio

another real power house is the Corsair HX620

Thermaltake Toughpower makes a 600 650 or 700 ?????? (but only the toughpower here)

those I would say are some of the top picks IMHO

if your current true power 550 has done the job for you, than any of the ones I mentioned in 600 watt versions will easily pull the wagon!

goodluck shopping

Tumbleweed36 · 03-22-2007, 05:10 PM

Hi,

Personal advice, skip the raidmax power supply. Sure does look nice, but performance wise, it is not a top-of-the-line supply. IMHO, the TruePower II 550 you are moving away from is most likely a better supply than the Raidmax 620. That would be one heck of a buy if it were a good supply.

alabamaman79 · 03-22-2007, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36

Hi,

Personal advice, skip the raidmax power supply. Sure does look nice, but performance wise, it is not a top-of-the-line supply. IMHO, the TruePower II 550 you are moving away from is most likely a better supply than the Raidmax 620. That would be one heck of a buy if it were a good supply.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I'm a firm believer of 'You get what you pay for', and for $40 I have to ask myself, what am I going to get?

**linderman** · 03-22-2007, 07:34 PM

The raidmax is actually on the hall of fam do not buy list which I will share with you fellas tommorow

the seasonic M700 watt really is a single rail PSU in sheeps clothing, by that I mean they have built it to appear as a multi railed unit but when disected its actually a single rail monster

but the 600 is not

if you are going to run cross fire then I would say definetly grab either the 700 watt seasonic or the Thermal Take toughpower 850

the trio 650 would be out of its league with the crossfire 1900's

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151031

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151030

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153043

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817194020

all these with the exception of the 600 watt will run the xfire set-up with no sweat

**linderman** · 03-22-2007, 07:37 PM

SMZ; the power supply world is a devious and unscruplous entity; you will be soon when you get to see all the smokers!

there are soo many that just plain rip of the consumer, you want a 700 watt power supply, no problem let me go get some stickers and boxes made! and thats no exaggeration either!

Tumbleweed36 · 03-22-2007, 07:49 PM

Hi,

Joe calls the list the Hall of Fame, do not buy list....and I call it the Hall of Shame, do not buy list.

**smz** · 03-23-2007, 01:44 AM

Well if it's any consilation, I love the case, though the stock power supply wasn't strong enough to run my setup so the raidmax went somewhere else. Nothing to report on, but It was definitely a 450 or lower supply. I'm sorry I stirred up all the Raidmax haters. Though, it does show the users a point that needs to be considered about price defining quality. Then take into account the many people popping in with their opinions. I totally agree in the world of Power Supplies, you certainly can't go wrong with antec. I've been using them for years in corporate configurations.

Quote:

Originally Posted by linderman

SMZ; the power supply world is a devious and unscruplous entity; you will be soon when you get to see all the smokers!

there are soo many that just plain rip of the consumer, you want a 700 watt power supply, no problem let me go get some stickers and boxes made! and thats no exaggeration either!

**linderman** · 03-23-2007, 04:09 AM

The hardware of late is soo ridiculously power hungry and heat producing

Here is the HALL OF SHAME LIST

Quote:
Some of these PSU's are dangerous to your system, some are just sub-standard,
however NONE can be recommended, for high performance or over-clocked systems.

Achieve
Aerocool
Allied
Apex
Arrow,
Aspire > Dangerous! They don't even pretend to meet the ATX/AMD/Intel specs!
Austin
Codegen
Coolmax
Demon
Deer
Duro
Dynapower
Eagle
EagleTech
Foxconn
Foxlink
Hercules
InWin (except FSP models)
JustPC
Key Mouse
Kingwin
L&C
Logic
Linkworld
Macron Power
MGE
Mustang
Okia
Power-Man (except FSP models)
Powmax
Power-Up
Powerstar
QMax
Qtec
q-tec
Raidmax (except Topower/Tagan models, not sold with cases)
Real PC Power
Rhycon
Robanton
Rosewill
Skyhawk
Thermaltake (except the Thermaltake W0057 PurePower 500W, ToughPower 750)
TMP-ANS
Tsunami
Turbo
Turbolink
Ultra (except X2 & X-Finity)
US-Can
Viomax

Some of these PSU's are dangerous to your system, some are just sub-standard,
however NONE can be recommended, for high performance or over-clocked systems.

**smz** · 03-23-2007, 04:59 AM

Phew. My $18 eBay 600watt special isn't on the list... Actually I have a feeling it is below these standards if that's possible. Actually it's been rock solid for 6 months and I run a ton of stuff including a 10K SCSI drive.

Here's a generic name for you.
POWORK model PW-600 Native SATA & 20/24 ATX

I just remember grabbing it on eBay when I realized that I was rushing into grabbing more Core Duo 2 because it was on sale that I didn't have a PSU to run the bad boy. So I had to let it collect some dust before the eBay supply arrived. Thank God it worked. But At the time there wasn't a supply under $100 at Fry's at that time and without having reviewed anything on that high of a level I wasn't going to just pick one... So the eBay one was supposed to hold the fort, but frankly, it hasn't cause any problems and My machine runs 24/7, overclocked from a total of 4.2ghz to 5.4ghz and never crashes with XP Pro. Though when I was testing Vista x32 Premium, it wouldn't stay up without crashing and/or locking up. Go Figure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by linderman

The hardware of late is soo ridiculously power hungry and heat producing

Here is the HALL OF SHAME LIST

Quote:

Some of these PSU's are dangerous to your system, some are just sub-standard,
however NONE can be recommended, for high performance or over-clocked systems.

**speedster123** · 03-23-2007, 08:44 AM

It occurred to me with that the list of beauties from Joe, that those manufacturers ought to give away free smoke detectors as an incentive.

alabamaman79 · 03-23-2007, 09:26 AM

I'm leaning towards the Seasonic 700... but damn, $210

???

03-22-2007, 07:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
alabamaman79 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 169 OS: WinXP My System	looking to upgrade my current PSu I have had Antec TruePowerII 550w PSU. Check my full specs for the rest. I'm thinking about a quality 650w PSU. Any suggestions? I'm going to put the TruePowerII into an older system I have that has a crap PSU that came with the case. I checked the voltages on that PSU and they are way too low.

03-22-2007, 03:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13,742 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: looking to upgrade my current PSu the best unit right now for the money IMHO is the antec trio power 650 watt they run around $110.00 If you want the BEST one for your rig then Seasonic S12 600 watt that is wisper quiet FOR REAL but then again sooooo is the antec trio another real power house is the Corsair HX620 Thermaltake Toughpower makes a 600 650 or 700 ?????? (but only the toughpower here) those I would say are some of the top picks IMHO if your current true power 550 has done the job for you, than any of the ones I mentioned in 600 watt versions will easily pull the wagon! goodluck shopping __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent.

03-22-2007, 04:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
alabamaman79 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 169 OS: WinXP My System	Re: looking to upgrade my current PSu I was looking at the Truepower Trio 650w at Newegg.com earlier. Truepower Trio I noticed it has multiple 12v rails. I know I've seen you say that isn't as good as a single 12v rail with higher amps. Now, my question is, down the road if I decided to put a X1900 crossfire card in, would the Truepower Trio stand up to the test? I know it has enough juice to push the system in general, but would the multiple rails hurt? Other than that, I can't seem to find the Seasonic S12 600w PSU anywhere. Got any links to that?

03-22-2007, 05:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 13,590 OS: XP Professional	Re: looking to upgrade my current PSu Hi, Personal advice, skip the raidmax power supply. Sure does look nice, but performance wise, it is not a top-of-the-line supply. IMHO, the TruePower II 550 you are moving away from is most likely a better supply than the Raidmax 620. That would be one heck of a buy if it were a good supply. __________________ ---------- Last edited by Tumbleweed36 : 03-22-2007 at 05:11 PM.

03-22-2007, 07:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13,742 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: looking to upgrade my current PSu The raidmax is actually on the hall of fam do not buy list which I will share with you fellas tommorow the seasonic M700 watt really is a single rail PSU in sheeps clothing, by that I mean they have built it to appear as a multi railed unit but when disected its actually a single rail monster but the 600 is not if you are going to run cross fire then I would say definetly grab either the 700 watt seasonic or the Thermal Take toughpower 850 the trio 650 would be out of its league with the crossfire 1900's http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151031 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151030 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153043 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817194020 all these with the exception of the 600 watt will run the xfire set-up with no sweat __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent.

03-22-2007, 07:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13,742 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: looking to upgrade my current PSu SMZ; the power supply world is a devious and unscruplous entity; you will be soon when you get to see all the smokers! there are soo many that just plain rip of the consumer, you want a 700 watt power supply, no problem let me go get some stickers and boxes made! and thats no exaggeration either! __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent.

03-22-2007, 07:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 13,590 OS: XP Professional	Re: looking to upgrade my current PSu Hi, Joe calls the list the Hall of Fame, do not buy list....and I call it the Hall of Shame, do not buy list. __________________ ----------

03-23-2007, 04:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13,742 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: looking to upgrade my current PSu The hardware of late is soo ridiculously power hungry and heat producing Here is the HALL OF SHAME LIST Quote: Some of these PSU's are dangerous to your system, some are just sub-standard, however NONE can be recommended, for high performance or over-clocked systems. Achieve Aerocool Allied Apex Arrow, Aspire > Dangerous! They don't even pretend to meet the ATX/AMD/Intel specs! Austin Codegen Coolmax Demon Deer Duro Dynapower Eagle EagleTech Foxconn Foxlink Hercules InWin (except FSP models) JustPC Key Mouse Kingwin L&C Logic Linkworld Macron Power MGE Mustang Okia Power-Man (except FSP models) Powmax Power-Up Powerstar QMax Qtec q-tec Raidmax (except Topower/Tagan models, not sold with cases) Real PC Power Rhycon Robanton Rosewill Skyhawk Thermaltake (except the Thermaltake W0057 PurePower 500W, ToughPower 750) TMP-ANS Tsunami Turbo Turbolink Ultra (except X2 & X-Finity) US-Can Viomax Some of these PSU's are dangerous to your system, some are just sub-standard, however NONE can be recommended, for high performance or over-clocked systems. __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent. Last edited by linderman : 03-23-2007 at 04:12 AM.

03-23-2007, 08:44 AM	#13 (permalink)
speedster123 Mentor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: United States-New York Posts: 3,864 OS: xp pro My System	Re: looking to upgrade my current PSu It occurred to me with that the list of beauties from Joe, that those manufacturers ought to give away free smoke detectors as an incentive. __________________ Infection Detection and Removal Thermal Grease Instructions Bench Test

03-23-2007, 09:26 AM	#14 (permalink)
alabamaman79 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 169 OS: WinXP My System	Re: looking to upgrade my current PSu I'm leaning towards the Seasonic 700... but damn, $210 ???

03-23-2007, 11:18 AM	#15 (permalink)
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