Thermaltake Pure Power 250 watt VGA PSU W0099RU

Thirdeye462 · 03-03-2007, 11:28 AM

hey everyone:

was just wondering if anyone knew anything about the quality and performance of the new Thermaltake PurePower 250 watt independent VGA PSU (W0099RU) thats new to the market.

Im looking into buying one for my new eVga 8800 GTS KO ACS3 card.

Id also like to know what the power consumption of this particular card is at idle and at load. I need to know if this PSU can handle an 8800 card.

Thanks everyone.

Feel free to send me any credible review links for this PSU as well.

1 g0t 0wn3d · 03-04-2007, 09:30 AM

note the 250 watt will not hold any modern hardware and i would recomend atleast a 500 watt for an 8800

Thirdeye462 · 03-04-2007, 10:06 AM

I forgot to mention that this unit was going to act as a secondary independant unit from my main PSU which is an OCZ Powerstream 600w unit.

As far as I know (through researching various forums online about this product) there should no be issues with using this power supply for my vga card.

heres my system:

a8n32 sli deluxe
ocz platinum pc3200 dual channel 2 gigs
ocz powerstream 600w sli PSU
eVga 8800 GTS KO ACS3
opty 185 stock clock @ 2.6 gHz
antec p180 case
audigy 2ZS 7.1 sound
gigaworks 7.1 700 watt speakers
logitech G11 keyboard
logitech G5 gaming mouse
zalman 9500 AM2 heatsink
raptor X 150 (dual boot)
seagate barracuda 200gig (dual boot)

**linderman** · 03-04-2007, 02:05 PM

I would say your method should work nicely; the only thing that bothers me is I dont see the overclocker & gamer crowd doing this?

so with that in mind, I personally would shoot for a PSU replacement

I personally would go with the Seasonic 700 watt

Silverstone 750 watt

or ThermalTake Toughpower (toughpower series only) 850 watt

sell off your current one on ebay for about $50.00 maybe $60.00 if youre lucky ?

I would take the road more often tested, your rig is no bargain spec & as such I would not deviate on what you have built so far!

**linderman** · 03-04-2007, 02:10 PM

I got my doubts on that unit

sorry

just to small and compact for the beating (8800) you intend to give it!

the 8800 can use as much as 180 watts of power and 20 amps that mini psu is "rated" for 25 amps but any heat in your case will play hell with at "rating" in a hurry.

IMHO I would pass

Tumbleweed36 · 03-04-2007, 02:56 PM

HI,

I think also you are going in the wrong direction with using two to power this unit. Sell your old one and spell for one of those mentioned by linderman.

With limitations Thermaltake is NOT known as a great power supply in the first place and I doubt if under a regular grind that it could put enough out for this card over the long haul. This card drains juice like water in bucket that has no bottom in it.

Also, you need to know that by using two power supplies, you will end up spending more on electricity in one year than if you did it correctly and purchased ONE quality, highly efficient quality power supply.

The third thing is that with two you are just creating more heat, more noise, and less efficieny. I can think of no reason that this is the way to do this if you want a nice rig.

That is my opinion.

floydfan · 03-05-2007, 03:40 AM

8800gts doesnt consume 180w, and even if it did, it wouldnt take 20a from the 12v line, as per that little formula we all learn in physics, computers arent outside those laws... according to nvidia, the card eats 147w for the gtx, so the gts eats less. dont bother with that second psu though, the one you have is enough.

**linderman** · 03-05-2007, 04:32 AM

Pay heed to the bold red paragraph about half way down! although you are not running an SLI rig, you card damn near matches the power consumption of two 7950Gts >>>> near enough to cause concern

http://www.diy-street.com/forum/show...53&postcount=2

as stated in the link submitted: The OCZ Powerstream 600 is a hellva unit for a rig with a single video card of 7950GT or under

The OP is a "power $$$ user"; (all high grade components) he hasnt been cruising in the bargain isle yet, and the power plant that runs it all is no place to start cheaping!

floydfan · 03-05-2007, 10:50 AM

i have basically the same system as him, and his video card only eats a few more watts than mine, as x1900xts are vey power hungry. it runs fine on a 500w liberty, and i can overclock my cpu and video card fine. he has a 600w psu, so he has all the power he needs...

**linderman** · 03-05-2007, 01:09 PM

Perhaps Floyd: you should tell those REPS from DFI street they are full of potatoes!

dude I dont sell PSU's

but I do offer "free one year service calls" on all my machines sold and that policy will drive you nuts with mid grade PSU's I know, I have been there!

All i ask is be gentlemen enough to come back in here and give an update when she dies >>>>> fair enough ???????????

Thirdeye462 · 03-05-2007, 02:18 PM

hey eveyone:

i parreciate everyones input in the matter.

i do understand that PSUs and thermaltake have tended to be a "night and day" comparison. I also was alarmed at the efficiency rating of this psu as well (75% or so) which didnt sit well with me.

Im glad to have heard that many ppl dont recommend this set up so as to avoid and future problems if I were to purchase this unit.

I suppose I will see how well my powerstream holds up with my 8800 card and ill take it from there. IF something happens, ill look into a new main PSU for my entire rig. I have had no issues with OCZ products and feel that they are solid in their construction (both PSU and RAM).

In fact, i was looking at the Proxstream 1000w from OCZ as a possible choice. Expensive? yes but I believe it looks very solid especially for my rig.

Thanks again everyone. Any more info on this thread is greatly appreciated. I check backs on posts daily.

Craig

**linderman** · 03-05-2007, 03:15 PM

whether or not your can slide by with your 600 watt will greatly depend on your case cooling

the 8800 is a real blast furnace, if high heat gets sucked into a PSU that is already working hard, the reaper will have a customer.

Case fans are cheap, mount all you can!

Thirdeye462 · 03-05-2007, 04:42 PM

hey linderman/everyone:

currently i have an antec p180 with 4 120mm Silverstone FM121 high cfm fans. Each move about 110 cfm of air which has greatly reduced my ambient temps.

I also have a Zalman 9500 AM2 HSF that is cooling my opty. On idle its running far below manufacturer's temps at around 32-35 C and on load its around 40-44C

I just hope that my cooling solution will be enough for that beast of a card

Tumbleweed36 · 03-05-2007, 05:40 PM

Hi,

Should work with only one caution. If the power supply has to work too hard because of the size (it is a great supply for standard computers without super high cards), it may heat up on you some. I guess you will have to wait and see. As far as the case and your cooling solution, you have it down pat and it should give you optimum cooling for this setup. That is my opinion.

Thirdeye462 · 03-07-2007, 04:17 PM

hey everyone:

just a quick update:

i ve been running my 8800 GTS with my powerstream 600W PSU and so far every game i have run has been solid. No BSODs or anything. Also, ive been monitoring my temps closely and surprisingly enough (according to CoreTemp and nVidia monitor) everything has staying very cool and stable even when I had my 7800 GT (sli).

that makes me very happy.

To all, if you have air cooling with your rig, I highly recommend using the Silverstone FM121 120mm high CFM fans. They are priced well and work incredibly...they move 110 cfm of air each and i have 4 or them in my rig.

thanks to all who replied to my inquiry

Tumbleweed36 · 03-07-2007, 04:24 PM

Hi,

Thanks for the reply back. That powerstream 600W PSU is a real workhorse, so it may do the job for you. Have a great evening.

**linderman** · 03-07-2007, 05:31 PM

with that much airflow in your case I dont think you will have problems, its the big heat build up that knocks the PSU unit down in capability!

enjoy & keep us posted

03-03-2007, 11:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
Thirdeye462 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: canada Posts: 37 OS: WINXP SP2	Thermaltake Pure Power 250 watt VGA PSU W0099RU hey everyone: was just wondering if anyone knew anything about the quality and performance of the new Thermaltake PurePower 250 watt independent VGA PSU (W0099RU) thats new to the market. Im looking into buying one for my new eVga 8800 GTS KO ACS3 card. Id also like to know what the power consumption of this particular card is at idle and at load. I need to know if this PSU can handle an 8800 card. Thanks everyone. Feel free to send me any credible review links for this PSU as well.

03-04-2007, 09:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,207 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	note the 250 watt will not hold any modern hardware and i would recomend atleast a 500 watt for an 8800 __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

03-04-2007, 02:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13,687 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	I would say your method should work nicely; the only thing that bothers me is I dont see the overclocker & gamer crowd doing this? so with that in mind, I personally would shoot for a PSU replacement I personally would go with the Seasonic 700 watt Silverstone 750 watt or ThermalTake Toughpower (toughpower series only) 850 watt sell off your current one on ebay for about $50.00 maybe $60.00 if youre lucky ? I would take the road more often tested, your rig is no bargain spec & as such I would not deviate on what you have built so far! __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent.

03-04-2007, 02:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13,687 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	I got my doubts on that unit sorry just to small and compact for the beating (8800) you intend to give it! the 8800 can use as much as 180 watts of power and 20 amps that mini psu is "rated" for 25 amps but any heat in your case will play hell with at "rating" in a hurry. IMHO I would pass __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent. Last edited by linderman : 03-04-2007 at 02:17 PM.

03-04-2007, 02:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 13,564 OS: XP Professional	HI, I think also you are going in the wrong direction with using two to power this unit. Sell your old one and spell for one of those mentioned by linderman. With limitations Thermaltake is NOT known as a great power supply in the first place and I doubt if under a regular grind that it could put enough out for this card over the long haul. This card drains juice like water in bucket that has no bottom in it. Also, you need to know that by using two power supplies, you will end up spending more on electricity in one year than if you did it correctly and purchased ONE quality, highly efficient quality power supply. The third thing is that with two you are just creating more heat, more noise, and less efficieny. I can think of no reason that this is the way to do this if you want a nice rig. That is my opinion. __________________ ----------

03-04-2007, 10:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
Thirdeye462 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: canada Posts: 37 OS: WINXP SP2	I forgot to mention that this unit was going to act as a secondary independant unit from my main PSU which is an OCZ Powerstream 600w unit. As far as I know (through researching various forums online about this product) there should no be issues with using this power supply for my vga card. heres my system: a8n32 sli deluxe ocz platinum pc3200 dual channel 2 gigs ocz powerstream 600w sli PSU eVga 8800 GTS KO ACS3 opty 185 stock clock @ 2.6 gHz antec p180 case audigy 2ZS 7.1 sound gigaworks 7.1 700 watt speakers logitech G11 keyboard logitech G5 gaming mouse zalman 9500 AM2 heatsink raptor X 150 (dual boot) seagate barracuda 200gig (dual boot)

03-05-2007, 03:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
floydfan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 367 OS: xp pro My System	8800gts doesnt consume 180w, and even if it did, it wouldnt take 20a from the 12v line, as per that little formula we all learn in physics, computers arent outside those laws... according to nvidia, the card eats 147w for the gtx, so the gts eats less. dont bother with that second psu though, the one you have is enough.

03-05-2007, 04:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13,687 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Pay heed to the bold red paragraph about half way down! although you are not running an SLI rig, you card damn near matches the power consumption of two 7950Gts >>>> near enough to cause concern http://www.diy-street.com/forum/show...53&postcount=2 as stated in the link submitted: The OCZ Powerstream 600 is a hellva unit for a rig with a single video card of 7950GT or under The OP is a "power $$$ user"; (all high grade components) he hasnt been cruising in the bargain isle yet, and the power plant that runs it all is no place to start cheaping! __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent.

03-05-2007, 10:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
floydfan Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 367 OS: xp pro My System	i have basically the same system as him, and his video card only eats a few more watts than mine, as x1900xts are vey power hungry. it runs fine on a 500w liberty, and i can overclock my cpu and video card fine. he has a 600w psu, so he has all the power he needs...

03-05-2007, 01:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13,687 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Perhaps Floyd: you should tell those REPS from DFI street they are full of potatoes! dude I dont sell PSU's but I do offer "free one year service calls" on all my machines sold and that policy will drive you nuts with mid grade PSU's I know, I have been there! All i ask is be gentlemen enough to come back in here and give an update when she dies >>>>> fair enough ??????????? __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent.

03-05-2007, 02:18 PM	#11 (permalink)
Thirdeye462 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: canada Posts: 37 OS: WINXP SP2	hey eveyone: i parreciate everyones input in the matter. i do understand that PSUs and thermaltake have tended to be a "night and day" comparison. I also was alarmed at the efficiency rating of this psu as well (75% or so) which didnt sit well with me. Im glad to have heard that many ppl dont recommend this set up so as to avoid and future problems if I were to purchase this unit. I suppose I will see how well my powerstream holds up with my 8800 card and ill take it from there. IF something happens, ill look into a new main PSU for my entire rig. I have had no issues with OCZ products and feel that they are solid in their construction (both PSU and RAM). In fact, i was looking at the Proxstream 1000w from OCZ as a possible choice. Expensive? yes but I believe it looks very solid especially for my rig. Thanks again everyone. Any more info on this thread is greatly appreciated. I check backs on posts daily. Craig

03-05-2007, 03:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13,687 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	whether or not your can slide by with your 600 watt will greatly depend on your case cooling the 8800 is a real blast furnace, if high heat gets sucked into a PSU that is already working hard, the reaper will have a customer. Case fans are cheap, mount all you can! __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent.

03-05-2007, 04:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
Thirdeye462 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: canada Posts: 37 OS: WINXP SP2	hey linderman/everyone: currently i have an antec p180 with 4 120mm Silverstone FM121 high cfm fans. Each move about 110 cfm of air which has greatly reduced my ambient temps. I also have a Zalman 9500 AM2 HSF that is cooling my opty. On idle its running far below manufacturer's temps at around 32-35 C and on load its around 40-44C I just hope that my cooling solution will be enough for that beast of a card

03-05-2007, 05:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 13,564 OS: XP Professional	Hi, Should work with only one caution. If the power supply has to work too hard because of the size (it is a great supply for standard computers without super high cards), it may heat up on you some. I guess you will have to wait and see. As far as the case and your cooling solution, you have it down pat and it should give you optimum cooling for this setup. That is my opinion. __________________ ----------

03-07-2007, 04:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
Thirdeye462 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: canada Posts: 37 OS: WINXP SP2	hey everyone: just a quick update: i ve been running my 8800 GTS with my powerstream 600W PSU and so far every game i have run has been solid. No BSODs or anything. Also, ive been monitoring my temps closely and surprisingly enough (according to CoreTemp and nVidia monitor) everything has staying very cool and stable even when I had my 7800 GT (sli). that makes me very happy. To all, if you have air cooling with your rig, I highly recommend using the Silverstone FM121 120mm high CFM fans. They are priced well and work incredibly...they move 110 cfm of air each and i have 4 or them in my rig. thanks to all who replied to my inquiry

03-07-2007, 04:24 PM	#16 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 13,564 OS: XP Professional	Hi, Thanks for the reply back. That powerstream 600W PSU is a real workhorse, so it may do the job for you. Have a great evening. __________________ ----------

03-07-2007, 05:31 PM	#17 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 13,687 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	with that much airflow in your case I dont think you will have problems, its the big heat build up that knocks the PSU unit down in capability! enjoy & keep us posted __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent.