Will this PSU be enough? - Page 2

dai · 11-30-2006, 03:18 PM

hiper ok

**8210GUY** · 11-30-2006, 03:33 PM

Another point to consider is the fact that currently your saving $30 on the price of it, not sure when they swap their offers round but you may want to bear that in mind before it gets to late and it goes back up in price.

**Kalim** · 11-30-2006, 03:44 PM

Erm, my edit time is over, but if I could I'd delete the first suggestion in my above post definitely. Sorry.

This link given by Blackduck for a PSU recommendation above doesn't work any more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817163108

dai · 11-30-2006, 03:50 PM

it has probably gone off special pricing,you have to get in when you see them

**8210GUY** · 11-30-2006, 03:52 PM

I just tried the link he gave in his first post and it worked for me.

**linderman** · 11-30-2006, 05:17 PM

hell thats no deal for a Hiper >>>>>> Hiper is not bad, but it aint worth no $130.00

heck; you can get an Antec 650 watt three 12volts rails unit for that and the antec (really made by seasonic) is 85% efficent!

look for the efficiency rating on that Hiper ????? i cant find it??

this surely is no glowing review; not a bad review like I say mediocre PSU for ther high end class of machines

QUOTED from link:
This PSU isn't all just good looks, its performance is also solid. Voltages were all within spec, though a little high under a light load. Efficiency was about typical for any high-end power supply. Ripple was well within specs.

For all the hype that surrounded this power supply though, I can't say that it really something revolutionary that blew away my expectations. The actual internal design (the "guts") is really not that different than what you would find in any good quality power supply. The Type-R differentiates itself more by the custom cabling & chassis designs, which too is an important aspect of a good PSU. All in all, if someone was looking for a PSU that was just a little different than the rest, then I would not hesitate to recommend this PSU for them to consider.

**TheMatt** · 11-30-2006, 06:37 PM

I still back Blackduck's recommendation, that silverstone 650 w for $110 is a steal.

Ace101 · 11-30-2006, 06:38 PM

i just ordered a 7950GT 512 MB lol. I'll take a look at these PSUs u guys recommended.

**TheMatt** · 11-30-2006, 07:27 PM

Make sure you get at least a 650 w PSU for the 7950, most anything less won't cut it. Put your specs into the PSU calculator and add 30 % just to make sure. Also, leave like 20 or so watts in case you want to add other things like a sound card later.
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp

**Ralck** · 11-30-2006, 07:47 PM

Another vote for Blackduck's suggestion.

Let me tell you a little story...
A computer I had a while back (I built it before coming to this forum) needed a new power supply when I upgraded the video card. I thought to myself, I'll just save on the powersupply and take the money I save for future upgrades. I bought a Thermaltake power supply, which is medium quality. I thought medium quality would be good enough. However I was wrong. About 6 months to a year down the road I started experiencing problems. Shortly after starting to get these problems I lost my computer. The power supply took out the motherboard and CPU. I was surprised that the memory and video card actually lived. Even the harddrive had problems.
Now, I 'only' lost a Celeron, harddrive, and nice motherboard, but think about what you could lose if that happened to you. You don't want to risk losing a 7950, do you?

My suggestion is don't go with anything less watts or quality than Blackduck's suggestion. Even if you have to wait another week or two before ordering the power supply to make sure that you can afford the good quality one.

Good luck!

**Kalim** · 11-30-2006, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linderman

hell thats no deal for a Hiper >>>>>> Hiper is not bad, but it aint worth no $130.00

heck; you can get an Antec 650 watt three 12volts rails unit for that and the antec (really made by seasonic) is 85% efficent!

look for the efficiency rating on that Hiper ????? i cant find it??

The deal is for $95 and the efficiency is rated at 80-85% given 9.5/10 for most overlocking forum reviews. I have 5 close friends who have it and are extreme overlockers yet it runs perfect for them since at least 6 months now.

Ace101 · 12-01-2006, 01:51 PM

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=A406-1046 <<Hows that?

**linderman** · 12-01-2006, 02:01 PM

what is the efficiency rating of that PSU ACE ?????? does it have active PFC ????

**linderman** · 12-01-2006, 02:02 PM

Kalim: where were you able to find the efficency rating for that PSU ???? and were you able to find a manufacturer's website ?????

Ace101 · 12-01-2006, 02:04 PM

The page doesn't say its efficency rating...

**blackduck30** · 12-01-2006, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace101

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=A406-1046 <<Hows that?

Hello ACE,

these are the power supplies we took the time to research and recommend, you are trying to build a race car here with a taxi engine, really you have spent good money on your rig so far but fail to listen to people when you ask for a power supply that will suit your needs

 Power gamer or tweaker; High-end video card, overclocking, and option for SLI configuration

Recommended Supply: OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI 600W Power Supply
Estimated Price: $128.99
Rails: Dual 12V / +3.3@36A, +5V@30A, +12V1@18A, +12V2@18A, -12V@0.8A, -5@0.5A, +5VSB@3.0A
Efficiency Rating: 80%
Cooling Fans: One
PFC: Active
Connectors: 24 pin motherboard connector
Peripheral: / 2 x PCI-E / 6 x 4-pin peripheral / 2 x 4-pin floppy / 6 x S-ATA /
Manufacturer’s Website: HERE
Review link: HERE
Warranty: 3 year – No wait RMA
Comments: This PSU has a very nice looking UV glowing unit with a lot of good reviews by the over-clocking crowd (check their website). There are many units in the power desktop group for about this budget that do not have all the features this one has at this price. We also recommend the more powerful version of this power supply the OCZ Model OCZ700GXSSLI with a very powerful 700 watts of power for a very good price of $169.99. One can not go wrong with either of these outstanding units.
Additonal recommended PSU link: OCZ - OCZ700GXSSLI – 700 Watts

Recommended Supply: SPARKLE FSP650-80GLC 650W
Estimated Price: $159.99
Rails: Quad 12V / +3.3@36A, +5V@30A, +12V1@15A, +12V2@15A, +12V3@15A, +12V4@15A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2.0A
Efficiency Rating: 80%
Cooling Fans: 1
PFC: Active
Connectors: 24 pin motherboard connector
Peripheral: / 1 x 12V (P4) / 1 x 12V(8 pin) / 5 x peripheral / 2 x SATA / 1 x Floppy / 2 x PCI-E
Manufacturer's Website: HERE
Review Link: HERE
Warranty: Unknown
Comments: This is a very good unit for the cost and has four 12volt rails to separately supply each video card and CPU with power needs. Special note: Check to make sure your video cards don’t need more than 15amps each.

Recommended Supply: ENERMAX Noisetaker II EG701AX VE(W) SFMA 600W Power Supply
Estimated Price: $168.99
Rails: Dual 12V / +3.3V@34A, +5V@34A, +12V1@22A, +12V2@22A, -12V@0.6A, +5VSB@3.0A
Efficiency Rating: 80%
Cooling Fans: 2
PFC: Active
Connectors: 20 pin & 24 pin compatibility
Peripheral: / 4 x Sata / 2 x pci-e / molex power plugs / 2 x floppy drive /
Manufacturer’s Website: HERE
Review link: HERE
Warranty: 3 years
Comments: This unit has all the bells and whistles. The cooling fans stay running even after the computer shuts down to help cool the internal parts of the computer.

Recommended Supply: SeaSonic S12-600 ATX12V 600W
Estimated Price: $150.00
Rails: Dual 12V / +3.3V@30A, +5V@30A, +12V1@18A, +12V2@18A, -12V@0.8A, +5VSB@2A
Efficiency Rating: 85%
Cooling Fans: 1
PFC: Active
Connectors: Main connector (24 pin)
Peripheral: / 1 x 12V (P4) / 1 x 12V (8pin) / 9 x peripheral / 6 x Sata / 2 x Floppy / 2 x PCI - E
Manufacturer’s Website: HERE
Review link: HERE
Warranty: 3 year
Comments: The PSU manufacturer claims this unit out cools any other dual fan unit on the market due to honey comb construction. This is a super high efficienty, active PFC, and tested as one of the select super quiet PSU units on the market. The Seasonic is a very strong contender for this class of computer.
We also recommend the new and more powerful Seasonic 650 watt power supply. This unit has the same excellent features of the Seasonic 600 watt recommended above with more power for demanding users. Seasonic PSU's are the quietest on the present market while offering more power for a very minimal cost increase. This unit sells for approximately $165.00.
Additonal recommended PSU link:
SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-650HT

Recommended Supply: FSP Group (Fortron Source) FX700-GLN 700W
Estimated Price: $170.99
Rails: Quad 12V / +3.3@36A, +5V@30A, +12V1@15A, +12V2@15A, +12V3@15A, +12V4@15A, -12V@0.5A, +5VSB@2A
Efficiency Rating: 85%
Cooling Fans: 1
PFC: Active
Connectors: Motherboard 20 + 4-Pin
Peripheral: / SATA x 6 / PCI Express 6 Pin x 2 / Big 4 Pin x 6 / Small 4 Pin x 2 /
Manufacturer’s Website: HERE
Review link: HERE
Warranty: 2 years
Comments: Very powerful 700-watt unit; 85% efficiency make this a Cadillac unit for sure. SLI dual video card compliant. Top of the line manufacturer.

Recommended Supply: SILVERSTONE SST-ST75ZF 750W Power Supply
Estimated Price: $ 209.99
Rails: Quad 12V / +3.3@24A, +5V@30A, +12V1@18A, +12V2@18A, +12V3@18A, +12V4@18A, -12V@0.5A, +5VSB@3.0A
Efficiency Rating: 80% +
Cooling Fans: 1
PFC: Active
Connectors: 20pin & 24pin motherboard connector compatible
Peripheral: / 1 x 12V (8 pin) (8pin to 4pin ATX12V adapter) / 4 x peripheral / 4 x SATA / 1 x Floppy / 2 x PCI-E / 1 x AUX Power
Manufacturer’s Website: HERE
Review link: HERE
Warranty: Unknown
Comments: Outstanding unit that is crossfire video compatible. This baby has power to burn with quad power rails and its own 12V rail will power each video card. This PSU is definitely for high-end video purists. We also recommend the Silverstone - ST65ZF – 650 Watts power supply. This unit has many of the great features of the above power supply with a more budget approach. This recommended supply has 650 Watts and is available for only $169.99. Both of these PSU’s are excellent purchases at the price.
Additonal recommended PSU link: Silverstone - ST65ZF – 650 Watts

**linderman** · 12-01-2006, 02:30 PM

The page doesn't say its efficency rating...

I would not buy that unit until you find out its eff rating and what power factor correction it has >>>>>>> active or passive

a high end computer system should have a PSU with active PFC

11-30-2006, 03:18 PM	#21 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 38,560 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	hiper ok __________________ Last edited by dai : 11-30-2006 at 03:48 PM.

11-30-2006, 03:44 PM	#23 (permalink)
Kalim Roaming To Help Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,538 OS: Many	Erm, my edit time is over, but if I could I'd delete the first suggestion in my above post definitely. Sorry. This link given by Blackduck for a PSU recommendation above doesn't work any more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817163108 Last edited by Kalim : 11-30-2006 at 03:47 PM.

11-30-2006, 03:50 PM	#24 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 38,560 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	it has probably gone off special pricing,you have to get in when you see them __________________

11-30-2006, 05:17 PM	#26 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,473 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	hell thats no deal for a Hiper >>>>>> Hiper is not bad, but it aint worth no $130.00 heck; you can get an Antec 650 watt three 12volts rails unit for that and the antec (really made by seasonic) is 85% efficent! look for the efficiency rating on that Hiper ????? i cant find it?? this surely is no glowing review; not a bad review like I say mediocre PSU for ther high end class of machines QUOTED from link: This PSU isn't all just good looks, its performance is also solid. Voltages were all within spec, though a little high under a light load. Efficiency was about typical for any high-end power supply. Ripple was well within specs. For all the hype that surrounded this power supply though, I can't say that it really something revolutionary that blew away my expectations. The actual internal design (the "guts") is really not that different than what you would find in any good quality power supply. The Type-R differentiates itself more by the custom cabling & chassis designs, which too is an important aspect of a good PSU. All in all, if someone was looking for a PSU that was just a little different than the rest, then I would not hesitate to recommend this PSU for them to consider. __________________ IF YOUR HARD DRIVE DIED RIGHT NOW; WOULD YOU CRY ??? ASK US FOR HELP DEVELOPING A DATA BACK-UP METHOD Last edited by linderman : 11-30-2006 at 05:24 PM.

11-30-2006, 06:37 PM	#27 (permalink)
TheMatt Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,600 OS: Windows 3.1, 98, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	I still back Blackduck's recommendation, that silverstone 650 w for $110 is a steal. __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

11-30-2006, 03:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
8210GUY TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,566 OS: xp Pro	Another point to consider is the fact that currently your saving $30 on the price of it, not sure when they swap their offers round but you may want to bear that in mind before it gets to late and it goes back up in price.

11-30-2006, 03:52 PM	#25 (permalink)
8210GUY TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,566 OS: xp Pro	I just tried the link he gave in his first post and it worked for me.

11-30-2006, 06:38 PM	#28 (permalink)
Ace101 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 22 OS: Vista SP1	i just ordered a 7950GT 512 MB lol. I'll take a look at these PSUs u guys recommended.

11-30-2006, 07:27 PM	#29 (permalink)
TheMatt Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,600 OS: Windows 3.1, 98, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Make sure you get at least a 650 w PSU for the 7950, most anything less won't cut it. Put your specs into the PSU calculator and add 30 % just to make sure. Also, leave like 20 or so watts in case you want to add other things like a sound card later. http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

11-30-2006, 07:47 PM	#30 (permalink)
Ralck mentor hardware team Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,450 OS: 98SE/XP PRO/FC4 My System	Another vote for Blackduck's suggestion. Let me tell you a little story... A computer I had a while back (I built it before coming to this forum) needed a new power supply when I upgraded the video card. I thought to myself, I'll just save on the powersupply and take the money I save for future upgrades. I bought a Thermaltake power supply, which is medium quality. I thought medium quality would be good enough. However I was wrong. About 6 months to a year down the road I started experiencing problems. Shortly after starting to get these problems I lost my computer. The power supply took out the motherboard and CPU. I was surprised that the memory and video card actually lived. Even the harddrive had problems. Now, I 'only' lost a Celeron, harddrive, and nice motherboard, but think about what you could lose if that happened to you. You don't want to risk losing a 7950, do you? My suggestion is don't go with anything less watts or quality than Blackduck's suggestion. Even if you have to wait another week or two before ordering the power supply to make sure that you can afford the good quality one. Good luck! __________________ Power Supply Info Everyone Should Read! How to Post Your System Specs

12-01-2006, 01:51 PM	#32 (permalink)
Ace101 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 22 OS: Vista SP1	http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&Sku=A406-1046 <<Hows that?

12-01-2006, 02:01 PM	#33 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,473 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	what is the efficiency rating of that PSU ACE ?????? does it have active PFC ???? __________________ IF YOUR HARD DRIVE DIED RIGHT NOW; WOULD YOU CRY ??? ASK US FOR HELP DEVELOPING A DATA BACK-UP METHOD

12-01-2006, 02:02 PM	#34 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,473 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Kalim: where were you able to find the efficency rating for that PSU ???? and were you able to find a manufacturer's website ????? __________________ IF YOUR HARD DRIVE DIED RIGHT NOW; WOULD YOU CRY ??? ASK US FOR HELP DEVELOPING A DATA BACK-UP METHOD

12-01-2006, 02:04 PM	#35 (permalink)
Ace101 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 22 OS: Vista SP1	The page doesn't say its efficency rating...

12-01-2006, 02:30 PM	#37 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,473 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	The page doesn't say its efficency rating... I would not buy that unit until you find out its eff rating and what power factor correction it has >>>>>>> active or passive a high end computer system should have a PSU with active PFC __________________ IF YOUR HARD DRIVE DIED RIGHT NOW; WOULD YOU CRY ??? ASK US FOR HELP DEVELOPING A DATA BACK-UP METHOD