Help me set up a water cooling system for this set up.

**ervand** · 06-05-2008, 12:48 AM

I need help seting up a water cooling system. I never had a water cooling system and don't know the terms too, so please be as specific as you can. Give me direct links to products, so that I can just add it to my basket and check it out. I would REALLY appreciate it. I'd love to buy from newegg.com, but if they don't have parts that I need I don't mind buying from another place (I live in California, just in case you need to know.)

I don't know how much it is going to cost me, but I have $500 that I can spend. I don't mind spending that much money for something that's going to do good to me, but I also don't mind saving money too. I hope I will have some money left over. I don't need the TOP-super-mega-high-quality-performance parts, but I want it to be decent and make sense for the $s I spend.

One more requirement that I have is that I want ALL parts of my watercooling system to be INSIDE of my case. The case I got is already too big! It is 24.8'' x 10.5'' x 23.6'' - HUGE! It was designed to fit a whole water cooling system inside of itself and I don't want anything outside of it.

I want to cool:
- processor
- north bridge
- video card
- anything else you suggest, if it makes sense.

Just in case you need this information, I am planing on overclocking a processor, maybe video card and memory too.

I know kits might be cheaper, but custom build always gets us more efficiency, so I would go that way, since I think $500 is more then enough. I've seen watercooling system set up for $300 on our forum. I might be wrong, it might have been low quality... I don't know... You tell me.

Ask me as many questions as you need, if needed.

Below is my systems set up:

Quote:

COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP Black/ Silver Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail

GIGABYTE GA-EX38-DS4 LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
SILVERSTONE ST85ZF 850W ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS12V SLI Certified Power Supply 90V ~ 264V (Auto Range) - Retail
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail
EVGA 512-P3-N872-AR GeForce 9800 GTX Superclocked 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
2x CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 1.5Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
2x Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

I think i gave enough information to get started....
I will really appreciate your help guys!

**stressfreesoul** · 06-07-2008, 04:23 PM

Buying aint the only way!!! Im thinking of putting what little engineering knowhow I have with my masses of common sense and build one from scratch. Im sure it wouldnt be that difficult!!!

**ervand** · 06-07-2008, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stressfreesoul

Buying aint the only way!!! Im thinking of putting what little engineering knowhow I have with my masses of common sense and build one from scratch. Im sure it wouldnt be that difficult!!!

Well good luck with that ;)
I hope you make it work.

**ervand** · 06-25-2008, 09:41 PM

Can anybody help?

**grimx133** · 06-25-2008, 10:34 PM

Tried to put in a few links a few minutes ago, but these work machines are not quite up to the task sometimes. So, I tried a reboot.
Look in the sticky here for a bunch of worthwhile reading.
http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/

Another excellent source of info is this watercooling sub-forum in the cooling section. Like the name says, there is some real extreme stuff in the other subs.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...splay.php?f=70

Haven't tried any yet myself, but have been reading up on it for a bit, very interesting.

~~!I am Newb!~~ · 06-28-2008, 12:29 PM

go to this link : www.alienware.com

Alienware has the highest standards that comes to performance and watercooling... most people dont know that, i should know i work for Alienware. there Watercooling systems are GUARANTEED FOR 2-3 years.

**ervand** · 06-28-2008, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !I am Newb!

go to this link : www.alienware.com

Alienware has the highest standards that comes to performance and watercooling... most people dont know that, i should know i work for Alienware. there Watercooling systems are GUARANTEED FOR 2-3 years.

I already have a computer. If I go with Alien I would have to set up a new computer right? I already have a computer. I just want to buy a watercooling system.

lazareth1 · 06-30-2008, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !I am Newb!

go to this link : www.alienware.com

Alienware has the highest standards that comes to performance and watercooling... most people dont know that, i should know i work for Alienware. there Watercooling systems are GUARANTEED FOR 2-3 years.

No one wants a dellware

**forcifer** · 07-04-2008, 01:02 AM

i can help you out. here, this should (hopefully) work. judging from your OP, i think this will be the most bang for your buck:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23991 - brand new, best out there, same price as others. just a great product :) ($70)

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23624 - again best of the best. ($120)

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23641 - meant for your motherboard. im not a huge fan of NB waterblocks as they rarely need it if you have decent airflow, but they do look awesome :) ($40)

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=4508 - the absolute BEST pump (and best looking pump ;)) out there. make sure you get the 1/2" fittings!! will save you many a headache in the future ($93 with fittings)

when i look at your case it only allows for 2 120mm fans next to each other *cries* o well...

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23557 i so so so so SO badly want you to use that rad but it is kinda expensive, so if you up your overall price get that one ($130). otherwise, http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=3653 will work just fine :) again, GET 1/2" FITTINGS!!! ($52 with fittings)

for tubing, its up to you. my recomendation though is to get colored tubing then get distilled water and use that in your system. keeps everything clean and still looking good :)

(personal favorite tubing) http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23612 and get about 7 feet of it (7 different items) ($19)

for res, its up to you. i think bay res look awesome, but others dont think so. here are 2 choices:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=3073 for bay ($30)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=3615 internal res ($20)

last but not least are fans. these are special fans, made to be quiet. dont worry about the CFM, they will be more then enough (especially with the fesser rad)

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22542 2 of these will be fine. cheap also :) ($20)

overall (before shipping): $433.89/449.89 (depends on res)
with shipping (to kansas): add $15. sorry its 3 am here i dont want to add right now =.= hopefully this helps :)

yea im back...life is good now

**ervand** · 07-04-2008, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by forcifer

i can help you out.

Hi! Thanks for your reply. I have been waiting for one for a long time now...

I have some questions:

1. Is there anything there that could be changed to fit this proportion: better performance with lower/same price over outlook? You see, my case has no window and I am not interesting in one, so I really don' care about how parts look.

2. Can you give me a link to 1/2" fittings and tell me how many I need to fit my whole watercooling system? I will greatly appreciate it.

3. Can you tell me what is an advantage of having that radiator for $130 over $52 one? If it is only for the outlooks, then I'll go with $52 one...

4. With the tubing - do people usually cut them? I am talking about making it shorter if I don't need the full lenght. Is it hard to make? Do I need to buy anything else to do it? Like fittings or something like that? You see, I have no knowledge of watercooling and this will be a first time I am messing with one.

5. What is a difference between internal and bay reservoirs?

6. I decided to go with GeForce GTX 280. Can you suggest me a water block that I can connect with that video card to fit my whole watercooling system?

7. One last final question is: If I get all those parts and set up a watercooling system. Will I have anything on the outside of my pc case? I really want everything inside you see...

Thanks for all your help...

**forcifer** · 07-04-2008, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ervand

Hi! Thanks for your reply. I have been waiting for one for a long time now...

I have some questions:

1. Is there anything there that could be changed to fit this proportion: better performance with lower/same price over outlook? You see, my case has no window and I am not interesting in one, so I really don' care about how parts look.

i choose price first, looks second actually :) thats the cheapest possible for everything. only exception is the res which is truly your choice.

2. Can you give me a link to 1/2" fittings and tell me how many I need to fit my whole watercooling system? I will greatly appreciate it.

if you follow everything i have laid out, if i didnt mention it then the part already comes with 1/2" fittings. just check at the bottom of the screen, right next to "Add to cart" to make sure you get the right fittings

3. Can you tell me what is an advantage of having that radiator for $130 over $52 one? If it is only for the outlooks, then I'll go with $52 one...

the $130 does a much better job of quickly getting rid of heat. although, it really depends on noise. if you get a slightly more powerful (therefore louder) fan and use the swifttech radiator, you really wont notice the difference. and i chose the 2x120mm rad so it fits at the top of your case :)

4. With the tubing - do people usually cut them? I am talking about making it shorter if I don't need the full lenght. Is it hard to make? Do I need to buy anything else to do it? Like fittings or something like that? You see, I have no knowledge of watercooling and this will be a first time I am messing with one.

yup. when i say get 7 feel of whatever you want, you get 7 straight feet of tubing, which you will have to cut down to customize it per the distance between blocks/rad/res/pump. and to cut it, high quality scissors are the best. one thing that looks like it would work would be a cigar cutter, but i have never tried that =/

5. What is a difference between internal and bay reservoirs?

there isnt. one looks a little better if you have some really cool colored coolant (distilled water) but they both serve the same purpose.

6. I decided to go with GeForce GTX 280. Can you suggest me a water block that I can connect with that video card to fit my whole watercooling system?

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=21_31_42&products_id=279&osCsid=d78cdf348783c576ec1f35c1a48418b8 is the only decent one but i cannot find it in any store. its a good company and i wouldnt hesitate to order that from them :)

7. One last final question is: If I get all those parts and set up a watercooling system. Will I have anything on the outside of my pc case? I really want everything inside you see...

nope as long as you get a 2x120mm radiator it should fit in the top 2 fan holes in your case, hanging down into the internals of the case

Thanks for all your help...

hopefully that will clear up everything :) feel free to ask anything else

**forcifer** · 07-04-2008, 12:42 PM

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/produc...1f35c1a48418b8 is the GTX280 block. it isnt a link in the quote :(

06-07-2008, 04:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
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06-25-2008, 09:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
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06-25-2008, 10:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
grimx133 Back to the grind Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Canada eh Posts: 416 OS: xp mce sp2, xp pro sp2 My System	Re: Help me set up a water cooling system for this set up. Tried to put in a few links a few minutes ago, but these work machines are not quite up to the task sometimes. So, I tried a reboot. Look in the sticky here for a bunch of worthwhile reading. http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/ Another excellent source of info is this watercooling sub-forum in the cooling section. Like the name says, there is some real extreme stuff in the other subs. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...splay.php?f=70 Haven't tried any yet myself, but have been reading up on it for a bit, very interesting.

06-28-2008, 12:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
~~!I am Newb!~~ Troubled Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 59 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate (Enriched version)	Re: Help me set up a water cooling system for this set up. go to this link : www.alienware.com Alienware has the highest standards that comes to performance and watercooling... most people dont know that, i should know i work for Alienware. there Watercooling systems are GUARANTEED FOR 2-3 years.

07-04-2008, 01:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,486 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Help me set up a water cooling system for this set up. i can help you out. here, this should (hopefully) work. judging from your OP, i think this will be the most bang for your buck: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23991 - brand new, best out there, same price as others. just a great product :) ($70) http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23624 - again best of the best. ($120) http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23641 - meant for your motherboard. im not a huge fan of NB waterblocks as they rarely need it if you have decent airflow, but they do look awesome :) ($40) http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=4508 - the absolute BEST pump (and best looking pump ;)) out there. make sure you get the 1/2" fittings!! will save you many a headache in the future ($93 with fittings) when i look at your case it only allows for 2 120mm fans next to each other cries o well... http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23557 i so so so so SO badly want you to use that rad but it is kinda expensive, so if you up your overall price get that one ($130). otherwise, http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=3653 will work just fine :) again, GET 1/2" FITTINGS!!! ($52 with fittings) for tubing, its up to you. my recomendation though is to get colored tubing then get distilled water and use that in your system. keeps everything clean and still looking good :) (personal favorite tubing) http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23612 and get about 7 feet of it (7 different items) ($19) for res, its up to you. i think bay res look awesome, but others dont think so. here are 2 choices: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=3073 for bay ($30) http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=3615 internal res ($20) last but not least are fans. these are special fans, made to be quiet. dont worry about the CFM, they will be more then enough (especially with the fesser rad) http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22542 2 of these will be fine. cheap also :) ($20) overall (before shipping): $433.89/449.89 (depends on res) with shipping (to kansas): add $15. sorry its 3 am here i dont want to add right now =.= hopefully this helps :) yea im back...life is good now __________________ im back...i guess...

07-04-2008, 12:42 PM	#12 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,486 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Help me set up a water cooling system for this set up. http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/produc...1f35c1a48418b8 is the GTX280 block. it isnt a link in the quote :( __________________ im back...i guess...