liquid cooling questions

brettdotcom14 · 06-01-2008, 01:45 PM

hey, i have a question about liquid cooling..my computer heats up my whole entire room, and i was wondering if i got a liquid cooling system would it be any different?

Rebellion88 · 06-03-2008, 02:06 AM

Liquid cooling is the real deal for cooling if your computer is getting extremely hot during normal use and the fans, and ventilation just aren't quite cutting it then yes this would be the next step. Ideally you want at least one main fan for intake, brining in fresh air and another to push the air out. Also some decent thermal compound on the CPU, and heat sink and fan that are not stock, that provides decent airflow. What sort of temperatures are we looking at, if you need to acquire some readings either in the bios or download an application called 'Speedfan'.

brettdotcom14 · 06-03-2008, 04:45 AM

its not that any of the hardware is running hot, its just the comp produces alot of heat and really heats up the room its in. and im wondering if liquid cooling would effect the room temperature. the guys at frozencpu said it would big time, while someone else told me it shouldnt have any effect.

brettdotcom14 · 06-03-2008, 05:02 AM

gpu=49c
hd0=39c
hd1=36c
core =40c
core =54c i think this is the chipset..

Rebellion88 · 06-03-2008, 03:05 PM

Yeah it would have an effect on your room if the computer is the main cause, by lowering the heat generated will keep the room a bit cooler. But bear in mind it may only be a few degree's.

Peagreen · 06-03-2008, 03:14 PM

dont know a thing about liquid cooling. but IMO any kind of liquid and a £1000 pc doesnt mix. =)

www.dabs.com have some tubes and stuff tho ( in clearance i think)

Rebellion88 · 06-03-2008, 10:45 PM

This one ain't bad took, seen my mates system with this one fitted works a charm.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/91991/...oduct_overview

Peagreen · 06-08-2008, 07:50 AM

get a Coolermaster Stacker 831, you wont need any water cooling then =)

larryjr88 · 06-10-2008, 07:15 AM

Wouldn't the room heat be the same? The computer makes just as much heat with or w/o watercooling, the only difference is a radiator expels the heat, not a case fan.

How would there be a difference in room temperature?

**lazareth1** · 06-18-2008, 10:21 PM

I agree with larry. the same amount of heat will be taken to the radiator via the water and so the SAME amount of will be eject from the computer. Why not just open a few windows?

~~!I am Newb!~~ · 06-24-2008, 08:17 PM

Liquid Coolling systems are of use when you have an Overclocked system, if not its worthless and its money thrown away... IF your computer can really heat up your room, get it checked by a computer repair shop ASAP...

**lazareth1** · 06-24-2008, 10:52 PM

A standard air cooled PC always heats up the room. Itz a by product of using the PC which saves a bit on heating bill :).

~~!I am Newb!~~ · 06-25-2008, 09:14 AM

well i mean for example if your computer can really do the job of a heater get it checked because its not supposed too... its even illegal to make this kind of computer as it can be the source of your house going up if flames!

Peagreen · 06-25-2008, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !I am Newb!

Liquid Coolling systems are of use when you have an Overclocked system, if not its worthless and its money thrown away... IF your computer can really heat up your room, get it checked by a computer repair shop ASAP...

This isnt actually correct, most top spec home built pc's heat up the room. Doesnt mean the pc is hot. For example i have a stacker 831 i think it is. the room gets really hot, but inside my case isnt to hot. its basically how your case give out the heat, and obv the higher the spec. the hotter it is =)

dont upgrade your cooling, upgrade your case. coolermasters beat them ALL.

craigwatanabe · 06-26-2008, 01:48 AM

Bottom line is that liquid cooling won't reduce the heat in your room but it will reduce the heat in your computer case because the heat from the CPU is moved from the CPU to the radiator. The radiator will do it's job by radiating the stored heat in the coolant to it's fins and transfer that heat to the ambient air in your room thus making your room just as hot.

Get an air conditioner and that'll solve your heating issues, especially when this summer's heat cranks up in late July or early August.

Tu_Ultimate · 07-09-2008, 01:21 AM

although a it is chucking the smae amount of heat out, there is only one source for the radiator where as previously u had the heatsinks on the Nb GPU CPU which would output heat at a much faster pace, because of the coolant the coolant needs to be heated first before the radiator gets hot but has theres so much of it it conducts across all of the coolant and the temps are much lower so the radiator is chucking out the same wattage of heat, but at a slower rate so your room temp will be cooler. also the water cooling is point cooling so the only heat is coming from the radiator whihc means it will take it longer to radiate around the room so the room will take long to heat up but since theres always airflow ijn a room and windows and things, the room wont heats up as much as its being cooled down at a constant rate.
i know that sounds confusing but it is true and you will see a room temp drop of a few degrees which can make a diffrence

**forcifer** · 07-12-2008, 12:56 AM

i think ultimate got it right, but as he said it is confusing. to make it a little bit less confusing, here is a jist:

the radiator cools down the coolant (water) to the coolest the RADIATOR and cool in the heat exchange time and to the coolest the external air temp is.

if to coolant is still warmer then how cool the radiator can get it, this little extra heat does not get pumped back into the system unless the coolant is hotter then what it is cooling (unlikely)

therefore, some energy is always being stored in the coolant itself, so the room will be a little bit cooler. until you turn your computer off, in which the extra heat of the coolant will slowly dissipate (i think its conduction, but i dont know) out into the air. however, by that time, the radiator will stop exchanging most heat so in the end, yes your room will be a little cooler, but nothing THAT noticeable (maybe a few C)

06-01-2008, 01:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
brettdotcom14 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 8 OS: xp	liquid cooling questions hey, i have a question about liquid cooling..my computer heats up my whole entire room, and i was wondering if i got a liquid cooling system would it be any different?

06-03-2008, 02:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
Rebellion88 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 422 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium My System	Re: liquid cooling questions Liquid cooling is the real deal for cooling if your computer is getting extremely hot during normal use and the fans, and ventilation just aren't quite cutting it then yes this would be the next step. Ideally you want at least one main fan for intake, brining in fresh air and another to push the air out. Also some decent thermal compound on the CPU, and heat sink and fan that are not stock, that provides decent airflow. What sort of temperatures are we looking at, if you need to acquire some readings either in the bios or download an application called 'Speedfan'. __________________ - Dean National Diploma Software Development National Diploma Hardware Route

06-03-2008, 04:45 AM	#3 (permalink)
brettdotcom14 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 8 OS: xp	Re: liquid cooling questions its not that any of the hardware is running hot, its just the comp produces alot of heat and really heats up the room its in. and im wondering if liquid cooling would effect the room temperature. the guys at frozencpu said it would big time, while someone else told me it shouldnt have any effect.

06-03-2008, 05:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
brettdotcom14 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 8 OS: xp	Re: liquid cooling questions gpu=49c hd0=39c hd1=36c core =40c core =54c i think this is the chipset..

06-03-2008, 03:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rebellion88 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 422 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium My System	Re: liquid cooling questions Yeah it would have an effect on your room if the computer is the main cause, by lowering the heat generated will keep the room a bit cooler. But bear in mind it may only be a few degree's. __________________ - Dean National Diploma Software Development National Diploma Hardware Route

06-03-2008, 03:14 PM	#6 (permalink)
Peagreen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: lancashire Posts: 61 OS: Windows XP SP2	Re: liquid cooling questions dont know a thing about liquid cooling. but IMO any kind of liquid and a £1000 pc doesnt mix. =) www.dabs.com have some tubes and stuff tho ( in clearance i think)

06-03-2008, 10:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
Rebellion88 Hardware Tech Team Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 422 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium My System	Re: liquid cooling questions This one ain't bad took, seen my mates system with this one fitted works a charm. http://www.ebuyer.com/product/91991/...oduct_overview __________________ - Dean National Diploma Software Development National Diploma Hardware Route

06-08-2008, 07:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
Peagreen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: lancashire Posts: 61 OS: Windows XP SP2	Re: liquid cooling questions get a Coolermaster Stacker 831, you wont need any water cooling then =)

06-10-2008, 07:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
larryjr88 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Atlanta Posts: 17 OS: Vista 32 Ultimate	Re: liquid cooling questions Wouldn't the room heat be the same? The computer makes just as much heat with or w/o watercooling, the only difference is a radiator expels the heat, not a case fan. How would there be a difference in room temperature?

06-18-2008, 10:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
lazareth1 Networking/Hardware Jedi Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hong Kong, previously Fife in Bonnie Scotland Posts: 894 OS: Vista SP1, Ultimate My System	Re: liquid cooling questions I agree with larry. the same amount of heat will be taken to the radiator via the water and so the SAME amount of will be eject from the computer. Why not just open a few windows? __________________ "Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted" JAFFA KREE!! Peace Through Power!!

06-24-2008, 08:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
~~!I am Newb!~~ Troubled Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 59 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate (Enriched version)	Re: liquid cooling questions Liquid Coolling systems are of use when you have an Overclocked system, if not its worthless and its money thrown away... IF your computer can really heat up your room, get it checked by a computer repair shop ASAP...

06-24-2008, 10:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
lazareth1 Networking/Hardware Jedi Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hong Kong, previously Fife in Bonnie Scotland Posts: 894 OS: Vista SP1, Ultimate My System	Re: liquid cooling questions A standard air cooled PC always heats up the room. Itz a by product of using the PC which saves a bit on heating bill :). __________________ "Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted" JAFFA KREE!! Peace Through Power!!

06-25-2008, 09:14 AM	#13 (permalink)
~~!I am Newb!~~ Troubled Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 59 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate (Enriched version)	Re: liquid cooling questions well i mean for example if your computer can really do the job of a heater get it checked because its not supposed too... its even illegal to make this kind of computer as it can be the source of your house going up if flames!

06-26-2008, 01:48 AM	#15 (permalink)
craigwatanabe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 252 OS: xp	Re: liquid cooling questions Bottom line is that liquid cooling won't reduce the heat in your room but it will reduce the heat in your computer case because the heat from the CPU is moved from the CPU to the radiator. The radiator will do it's job by radiating the stored heat in the coolant to it's fins and transfer that heat to the ambient air in your room thus making your room just as hot. Get an air conditioner and that'll solve your heating issues, especially when this summer's heat cranks up in late July or early August. __________________ A computer is only as powerful as it's user so build wisely.

07-09-2008, 01:21 AM	#16 (permalink)
Tu_Ultimate Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 41 OS: Vista Business x86	Re: liquid cooling questions although a it is chucking the smae amount of heat out, there is only one source for the radiator where as previously u had the heatsinks on the Nb GPU CPU which would output heat at a much faster pace, because of the coolant the coolant needs to be heated first before the radiator gets hot but has theres so much of it it conducts across all of the coolant and the temps are much lower so the radiator is chucking out the same wattage of heat, but at a slower rate so your room temp will be cooler. also the water cooling is point cooling so the only heat is coming from the radiator whihc means it will take it longer to radiate around the room so the room will take long to heat up but since theres always airflow ijn a room and windows and things, the room wont heats up as much as its being cooled down at a constant rate. i know that sounds confusing but it is true and you will see a room temp drop of a few degrees which can make a diffrence

07-12-2008, 12:56 AM	#17 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,486 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: liquid cooling questions i think ultimate got it right, but as he said it is confusing. to make it a little bit less confusing, here is a jist: the radiator cools down the coolant (water) to the coolest the RADIATOR and cool in the heat exchange time and to the coolest the external air temp is. if to coolant is still warmer then how cool the radiator can get it, this little extra heat does not get pumped back into the system unless the coolant is hotter then what it is cooling (unlikely) therefore, some energy is always being stored in the coolant itself, so the room will be a little bit cooler. until you turn your computer off, in which the extra heat of the coolant will slowly dissipate (i think its conduction, but i dont know) out into the air. however, by that time, the radiator will stop exchanging most heat so in the end, yes your room will be a little cooler, but nothing THAT noticeable (maybe a few C) __________________ im back...i guess...