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Old 03-08-2008, 07:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Do I need watercooling?

Hey guys. I'm just wondering if I would even benefit from upgrading to a liquid cooled system. I can't seem to find any good number data to see what the temperature differences are, and things of that nature.

Here's what I'm looking at. (I have one large intake side panel fan and two out flow fans on the front and back of the case)

- Intel Quad Core (OCed to 3.4) = 65 C
- Motherboard = 48 C
- 8800 Ultra = 76 C

Would I benefit from upgrading to water cooling? Or are these numbers acceptable?

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Old 03-09-2008, 11:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Do I need watercooling?

eep O.O yes watercooling is needed. or uber air cooling but i think water would work better and not sound like a tornado. whats your budget?
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Old 03-09-2008, 11:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
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(I have one large intake side panel fan and two out flow fans on the front and back of the case)
If the front fan is blowing out reverse it, it should be sucking cool air in.
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Old 03-09-2008, 11:40 AM   #4 (permalink)
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eep O.O yes watercooling is needed. or uber air cooling but i think water would work better and not sound like a tornado. whats your budget?
My budget extends to whatever system works the best. My main worry is that my case may be too small. I'd probably have to work a bigger case into the solution.

And to Kodi, I made a mistake. The front does suck in.
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Old 03-09-2008, 12:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Do I need watercooling?

If you don't want to buy a new case you can mount the radiator/s on the outside of the case but it is not a good looking result
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Old 03-09-2008, 12:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Do I need watercooling?

what case do you have? its probably going to be around $600 when all is completed for the best of the best
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Old 03-09-2008, 04:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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what case do you have? its probably going to be around $600 when all is completed for the best of the best
I assume the $600 is excluding a new case.

My current case is a NZXT Nemesis

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Re: Do I need watercooling?

yea its excluding. i bet we can fit a power system in that case. its small, but i think i know what to do. wont look really pretty though...
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Old 03-09-2008, 05:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Yeah, pretty is important. =P

In that case, could you recommend some cases good for this type of thing?
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Re: Do I need watercooling?

the best for watercooling are either lian li or mountain mods. http://www.mountainmods.com/computer...sgcs6c4130hkt7 are the MM cases, the absolute best in this situation. http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...b35845123f06d6 are lian li's that would work. there are a few others, but those are the best. i recommend mountain mods because it will be soooo much easier to install, etc and will look awesome buts its all a personal opinion.
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Re: Do I need watercooling?

Cool.

What about water cooling gear itself? Any recommendations?
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Do I need watercooling?

swiftech or dangerden systems
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Old 03-10-2008, 03:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Do I need watercooling?

DD has fallen off the top. their recent stuff has sucked compared to people like EK, d-tek.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23172 - one of the best CPU blocks. you can also get the apogee GTX. i think the EK supreme looks better, and it performs a tiny bit better
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21306 should work on the ultra :) also comes with solid top, but that one is cheaper
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=3112 will work well as long as you hide it well.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=4508 will also work really well. this one is probably better, but i dont like the attached res. if you get that one, make sure you get the 1/2" fittings
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22012 a great res that lets you easily see the water level. again, get 1/2" barbs. thats VERY important
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=20719 about 7 feel should work.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ndex&cPath=383 pick your poison :P aka what ever color you want. i personal like UV green (i have pics if you want)
performance doesnt have the rads i like (and the ones that kick some serious a$$. not all rads are made the same)
http://www.mountainmods.com/thermoch...tor-p-306.html the current rad king with the exception of the 9 fan one (dont even think about it!)
http://www.mountainmods.com/yate-loo...l12-p-424.html 3 of those on the rad.
im guessing you want a case? http://www.mountainmods.com/u2ufo-br...ndow-p-75.html is one of the ultimate cooling cases. for the spacing, make sure you get thermochill fan spacing. will save many a headaches

the rest is all personal opinion things. the case doesnt come with any fans, so i would get some that you look look cool. i would also get some UV cathodes, and maybe for rad get LED fans also. overall, its really expensive wow. we can get cheaper in a few areas but not much. this will keep everything at about 30-35c :) depends on room temp but its amazing how well it will work
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Re: Do I need watercooling?

i tend to try and stick to the cheaper and effective cooling units, im currently using 2 pc's my main machine is running Water cooling, but on my other as an alternative cooling, i have 5 fans total (not including cpu fan or psu fan) i find that air being pumped into the computer from the sides and air pumped out the back, it keeps an even temp in the pc, and i havent had any problems with it at all. (either of my cooling systems)

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Re: Do I need watercooling?

Cool. Thanks for the help guys.
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:09 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Do I need watercooling?

i wolud sugest this case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811215006 or this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811103010 which every one you like but i know one think that the second one well my friend has it it might look small on the picture but really its very big and about the water cooling i cant help you cuz i haven't every done it my self but planing on to
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Re: Do I need watercooling?

mountain mods are the best for watercooling hands down. there are a few others but MM are the only ones (i think) that will fit a 120.3 internally without modding. the problems with those cases is that they rely on huge fans, not multiple ones. for watercooling, you want cases that can support multiple fans in succession. look at www.mountainmods.com
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