Questions about Water Cooling

Googi · 02-15-2008, 11:43 PM

I'm looking for a water cooling Kit that's will be good to handle a Quad Core CPU and two 8800 series GPUs, I'm on a budget so I was thinking of buying the separate pieces and custom building it. except...I don't know what pieces I need, does anyone know of a good External kit? or how to go about building a custom kit?

-Thanks

**forcifer** · 02-15-2008, 11:53 PM

the biggest question: whats your budget? you can do alot here..

Googi · 02-16-2008, 12:10 AM

$100-$250ish, I'll go as high as $300 if it's worth it

**forcifer** · 02-16-2008, 12:25 AM

alright that will work fine :)
btw what 8800s? they all differ slightly
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=4086 x2 of those
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...8cf40bc653cd67 x1 of these
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22697 x1 of those (not the best but it will work) make sure you get 1/2" ID fitting! very important
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=4537 depends on what case you have. if you have a link to the one your using, please supply :)
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=20719 get 6 of these (its sold by the foot) that should be plenty
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22033 x2 of these for the rad (if you already have fans dont worry) get them unsleaved because it will be cheaper.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21650 for coolant. i just like green, you can choose whatever you want

comes out to $290

hope this help!

Googi · 02-16-2008, 12:45 AM

Awesome! thanks! few questions tho, I hear using pain distilled water is good for cooling, Is this true with all systems? also, all the part you linked me, these are for internal or external kits? I might not have enough room inside my case so I wanna do external.

My Video card is a 8800 GT, I didn't think that mattered....would the cooling block cool the memory too or just the GPU?

**forcifer** · 02-16-2008, 10:10 AM

no it wouldnt unfortunately. i prefer full cover blocks but they cost about $100 a pop. its for internal but can be easily made external by using a rad box. what case are you using?

dai · 02-16-2008, 11:23 AM

i use car radiator coolant and distilled water in mine

**forcifer** · 02-16-2008, 11:33 AM

yes as dai said you need some kind of non water liquid, usually ethylene glycol. thats what the little tube of stuff is, and its colored :)

Googi · 02-16-2008, 11:13 PM

I couldn't tell you what kinda case I have it's an old one I got it custom Made maybe 5 or 6 years ago...and I keep upgrading it....lol

car coolant would make sense...would it be a lot better than the coolant they sell with the PC water coolers?

and umm, what would a rad box do? contain the Pump and Reservoir? (Reservoirs hold the water/coolant right?

) then all I have to do is run the tubing in through the back of my case to the hardware?

**forcifer** · 02-17-2008, 08:35 AM

a rad box turns a single 120mm fan hole into as big a fan hole as you need. they are very handy. would it be possible for you to take a picture of your case? would make things very easy :) as for car coolant vs pc coolant, its all ethylene glycol so it really doesnt matter. id reccomend pc coolant because it is often pre dyed to some cool colors

Googi · 02-17-2008, 06:51 PM

these are pictures of my case

rad cases mount on the back of the PC?....this is getting to sound more difficult

**forcifer** · 02-17-2008, 08:17 PM

sorry i cant see those =/ try using www.imageshack.us and post the link under forums after the image has loaded (it will make sense when you do)

Googi · 02-17-2008, 08:46 PM

**forcifer** · 02-17-2008, 08:53 PM

hmm...thats helps some. http://www.swiftnets.com/products/MCB-120.asp is a rad box. you attach your radiator to it (only one fan) and then attach it to the 80mm fan bracket on the back of your case. should work well :) (i hope lol)

Googi · 02-17-2008, 09:57 PM

Cool thanks for all your help! i'm gonna buy these parts ASAP. thanks again

**forcifer** · 02-17-2008, 10:35 PM

np :) just doing what i can

02-15-2008, 11:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
Googi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brampton, Ontario CANADA Posts: 31 OS: Vista Home Premium X64 My System	Questions about Water Cooling I'm looking for a water cooling Kit that's will be good to handle a Quad Core CPU and two 8800 series GPUs, I'm on a budget so I was thinking of buying the separate pieces and custom building it. except...I don't know what pieces I need, does anyone know of a good External kit? or how to go about building a custom kit? -Thanks

02-15-2008, 11:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,483 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Questions about Water Cooling the biggest question: whats your budget? you can do alot here.. __________________ im back...i guess...

02-16-2008, 12:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
Googi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brampton, Ontario CANADA Posts: 31 OS: Vista Home Premium X64 My System	Re: Questions about Water Cooling $100-$250ish, I'll go as high as $300 if it's worth it

02-16-2008, 12:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,483 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Questions about Water Cooling alright that will work fine :) btw what 8800s? they all differ slightly http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=4086 x2 of those http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...8cf40bc653cd67 x1 of these http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22697 x1 of those (not the best but it will work) make sure you get 1/2" ID fitting! very important http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=4537 depends on what case you have. if you have a link to the one your using, please supply :) http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=20719 get 6 of these (its sold by the foot) that should be plenty http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=22033 x2 of these for the rad (if you already have fans dont worry) get them unsleaved because it will be cheaper. http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21650 for coolant. i just like green, you can choose whatever you want comes out to $290 hope this help! __________________ im back...i guess... Last edited by forcifer : 02-16-2008 at 12:27 AM.

02-16-2008, 12:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
Googi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brampton, Ontario CANADA Posts: 31 OS: Vista Home Premium X64 My System	Re: Questions about Water Cooling Awesome! thanks! few questions tho, I hear using pain distilled water is good for cooling, Is this true with all systems? also, all the part you linked me, these are for internal or external kits? I might not have enough room inside my case so I wanna do external. My Video card is a 8800 GT, I didn't think that mattered....would the cooling block cool the memory too or just the GPU?

02-16-2008, 10:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,483 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Questions about Water Cooling no it wouldnt unfortunately. i prefer full cover blocks but they cost about $100 a pop. its for internal but can be easily made external by using a rad box. what case are you using? __________________ im back...i guess...

02-16-2008, 11:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,475 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: Questions about Water Cooling i use car radiator coolant and distilled water in mine __________________

02-16-2008, 11:33 AM	#8 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,483 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Questions about Water Cooling yes as dai said you need some kind of non water liquid, usually ethylene glycol. thats what the little tube of stuff is, and its colored :) __________________ im back...i guess...

02-16-2008, 11:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
Googi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brampton, Ontario CANADA Posts: 31 OS: Vista Home Premium X64 My System	Re: Questions about Water Cooling I couldn't tell you what kinda case I have it's an old one I got it custom Made maybe 5 or 6 years ago...and I keep upgrading it....lol car coolant would make sense...would it be a lot better than the coolant they sell with the PC water coolers? and umm, what would a rad box do? contain the Pump and Reservoir? (Reservoirs hold the water/coolant right? ) then all I have to do is run the tubing in through the back of my case to the hardware? Last edited by Googi : 02-16-2008 at 11:35 PM.

02-17-2008, 08:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,483 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Questions about Water Cooling a rad box turns a single 120mm fan hole into as big a fan hole as you need. they are very handy. would it be possible for you to take a picture of your case? would make things very easy :) as for car coolant vs pc coolant, its all ethylene glycol so it really doesnt matter. id reccomend pc coolant because it is often pre dyed to some cool colors __________________ im back...i guess...

02-17-2008, 08:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,483 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Questions about Water Cooling sorry i cant see those =/ try using www.imageshack.us and post the link under forums after the image has loaded (it will make sense when you do) __________________ im back...i guess...

02-17-2008, 08:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
Googi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brampton, Ontario CANADA Posts: 31 OS: Vista Home Premium X64 My System	Re: Questions about Water Cooling

02-17-2008, 08:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,483 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Questions about Water Cooling hmm...thats helps some. http://www.swiftnets.com/products/MCB-120.asp is a rad box. you attach your radiator to it (only one fan) and then attach it to the 80mm fan bracket on the back of your case. should work well :) (i hope lol) __________________ im back...i guess...

02-17-2008, 09:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
Googi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brampton, Ontario CANADA Posts: 31 OS: Vista Home Premium X64 My System	Re: Questions about Water Cooling Cool thanks for all your help! i'm gonna buy these parts ASAP. thanks again

02-17-2008, 10:35 PM	#16 (permalink)
forcifer good bye and good luck Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,483 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Questions about Water Cooling np :) just doing what i can __________________ im back...i guess...