kyle g lied

well its always nice to know it can handle more too. i havent tried the blue ray player yet. very eager to try that.
what is your windows experience index score?
i dont think it can rate mine completely because it maxes everything out at 5.9

Phædrus2401

5.7, everything is 5.9 but the CPU, which is the weakest part of my system.

Windows 7 expands the system up to 7.9. I think when I used the beta that my GPU score went up to 6.5, CPU still the slowest at 5.7.

kyle g lied

hmm can i download the beta version for the index score on vista home premium?

and you mentioned before you would get an i5 on a p55 with 4 gigs ddr3 but the i5 doesnt have the hyper threading technology that my i7 has.

kyle g lied

i dont want to install windows 7 beta, like is there a way i can upgrade the experince score for vista?

Phædrus2401

Hyperthreading does absolutely nothing for your gaming performance, at all. It might help if you're running VMware or doing video decoding or using AutoCAD, but not for gaming. The i5 750 also has a "turbo" function when running single and dual threaded applications (like first person shooter games) where one core is overclocked and the others underclocked, for better performance in programs that can't/don't use four cores.

I believe that in a Fallout 3 benchmark the Core i7 920 got about .3fps more than the i5 750, all else being equal. The i7 965 got .5fps more than that. Yay for $1000 CPUs.


I'll be brutally honest with you. If I'd won that computer in a contest, I would not even have turned it on. I would have immediately sold it on ebay as a "custom computer" for parts value + 10%, no warranty. Then used the proceeds to build an equivalent i5 or C2D build, and kept the savings.

Since you got the computer essentially free, that's great and it's a decent computer. But if I were building a gaming computer, I would not base it on yours and would instead use components with a better "bang for the buck".

kyle g lied

well the turbo for my core i7 lynnfield has better turbo ratios than both of the core i5's. and my computer also came with the 22inch lcd screen wich would knock a good portion off the retail value if i sold just the computer. i could buy one for just the same amount of money off newegg with a tiny bit better specs, however i dont play hardcore games on the computer. seems like you might though and all of your specs are under mine excpt for your ram, which does not make a big difference, according to you, and i have double the amount of ram as yours.

Get Rekd

I could see Intel and AMD skipping 6 cores cpus and going straight to 8 cores like the ps3.

greenbrucelee

they might do but if they do the CPUs will be a lot more user friendly for the programmers than the cell the ps3 uses.

kyle g lied

is the core i7's technically an 8 core?
i know it divides each processor into two logical processors making 8 visible.

greenbrucelee

no its a true 4 core

floydfan

6 core server cpus are already out from both intel and amd, and there will be an i9 6 core coming out this winter from intel. amd will also have a 6 core later in 2010.

On topic, what is so bad about water cooling? It seems to be popular, and there doesn't seem to be significant risk unless it is set up incorrectly.

greenbrucelee

there's nothing bad with it. I just find that can actually get the same results with air cooled systems when overclocking plus when I was a kid I was taught water and electricity don't mix and that seems to have stuck

floydfan

maybe that is true for premade solutions like a corsair or coolit, but a user assembled water cooling loop is far superior to anything that air can get from what I have read.

greenbrucelee

sorry but that is incorrect, the only difference water cooling makes is that it's quiet.

A mate of mine has basically the same setup as me but he has the extreme version of my motherboard and water cooling.

I can get to 4GHz no problem with mine he starts to struggle at 3.82 where as I can go all the way to 4.2GHz and he can manage 4.06 before his system won't take it any more.

floydfan

Those are just two different chips though. Wc can be quiter, but when talking about max cooling capacity, wc surpasses air by tons. If you run prime or linx on the same chip using air and water, the difference is enormous, 20c+ at same clocks and voltage.

greenbrucelee

the operative words are CAN BE when saying water cooling is better at cooling than air. It doesn't always work like that. Trust me, so far to date (since I was 18, now 32) I have built over 100 computers, I have built water cooled systems and air cooled systems.

I would never own a water cooled system for myself.

I have seen air cooled systems that are cooler than water cooling systems the only difference is that they are louder although the buzz from the water pump can get annoying.

Phædrus2401

Extremely high end air cooling can match the cooling efficiency of water; it just sounds like a jet engine. If you really shell out you can get water cooling kits that outperform the best air cooling, but they're very expensive.

kyle g lied

its not actual water in it either. i believe if it leaks it will not fry your motherboard or something drastic like that.

Phædrus2401

It's usually distilled water. Actual water, which will fry your components. People with a bit more money who are more cautious use glycol. There is also oil submersion cooling.

greenbrucelee

yep glycol is the one to use.