Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB

PhoenixWright · 09-21-2009, 01:21 AM

Hey Guys,
I was going to buy a GTX 275, but till I get it, i'm stuck with my 8500 GT.
So i thought of overclocking it to play the games i have.And i got EVGA precision.
My current clock speeds are:
Core Clock - 459
Shader Clock - 918
Memory clock - 400

How much should i overclock it?

**wrench97** · 09-21-2009, 01:45 AM

10% max, but your not going to see a lot of difference.

Horusrogue · 09-22-2009, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrench97

10% max, but your not going to see a lot of difference.

There are mixed results in the online literature. I am sure if you invested time and more specialized cooling setups you could go over 600 core clock comfortably. Is the time and investment worth it? No.

» http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....514&card2=574#

Comparison of a theoretically OC`D 8500Gt vs 9500GT stock.

Mcninjaguy · 09-22-2009, 03:48 PM

Why don't you wait for the new ATI 5000 series graphics cards or the new Nvidia GTX 300 series cards to come out?

**wrench97** · 09-22-2009, 04:45 PM

Theoretical is correct the card will fall on it's face before seeing those readings and have any stability.

Mcninjaguy · 09-22-2009, 08:36 PM

This card is not meant for overclocking and supports the very basic needs of a running a computer and running games at low resolutions.

The cards that get the real performance boost are in the 800 range of cards. Like the 4850 or a the newer GTX 200 series cards. These cards do have the capacity to overclock well and the cooling for the card is insufficient for the needs of overclocking. Keep in mind that aftermarket coolers will cost half the price of a card when you could have bought a way better card for the same price.

Horusrogue · 09-22-2009, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mcninjaguy

This card is not meant for overclocking and supports the very basic needs of a running a computer and running games at low resolutions.

The cards that get the real performance boost are in the 800 range of cards. Like the 4850 or a the newer GTX 200 series cards. These cards do have the capacity to overclock well and the cooling for the card is insufficient for the needs of overclocking. Keep in mind that aftermarket coolers will cost half the price of a card when you could have bought a way better card for the same price.

Well the 9600 and above series overclock well. The GT up to 9800 stock specs easily and upwards with more success.

Horusrogue · 09-22-2009, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horusrogue

There are mixed results in the online literature. I am sure if you invested time and more specialized cooling setups you could go over 600 core clock comfortably. Is the time and investment worth it? No.

» http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....514&card2=574#

Comparison of a theoretically OC`D 8500Gt vs 9500GT stock.

Apparently it doesn''t save the specs scale-up parameters. I had it up to 600 on the 8500GT.

I retract that and instead say it could be possible.

Mcninjaguy · 09-22-2009, 09:06 PM

The gain on a 8500GT would be very low and although yes it may be possible, having a well vented case would be a must too. The amount of heat that small fan can vent is very small.

Mostly, will it stable for a long time or even in the short term and is the performance gain noticeable? I would have to say no to both of them. The low end cards should not be bothered to overclock as they have a very limited performance already.

PhoenixWright · 09-23-2009, 08:39 AM

I know...the 8500 GT is a piece of junk.
I overclocked it and the performance boost is hardly noticable.
I was thinking of getting the GTX 275 in december because of the Christmas rebates.
I thought of the ATI 5000 series and the GTX 300 series but the problem with that is my budget is not that expandable:(
I thought of the GTX 275 as its only 220-240$
The 300 series is probably going to be really expensive.Not to mention that the 5000 series may be around $350(Radeon 5870).
So is my investment worth it or can i buy some other card in that price range?
BTW, i also have to buy Corsair 750W power supply.

**wrench97** · 09-23-2009, 12:06 PM

What CPU, Ram and Motherboard do you have?

Mcninjaguy · 09-23-2009, 12:38 PM

Yea the GTX 275 looks fine for you then as long as we know what ram, motherboard and CPU you have, like what Wrench asked.

If your CPU is too low end then it could bottleneck the graphics and not allow it to perform to its hearts content. The ram needs to be fast enough too. If we need to suggest a faster CPU or ram then we need to know your motherboard too. I just wanted to expand on what Wrench said in the last post.

PhoenixWright · 09-24-2009, 08:50 AM

Intel Core 2 Duo 2.53 GHz
Intel DG31PR motherboard
2 GB 667 MHz RAM (i was thinking of getting another 2 GB RAM)

PhoenixWright · 09-24-2009, 08:56 AM

BTW, this upgrade is meant for the sole purpose of gaming.

**wrench97** · 09-24-2009, 12:35 PM

Put a matched pair of DDR2 800 or 1066 in it for best results with the GTX275

PhoenixWright · 09-25-2009, 08:55 AM

Will it make much more difference than a pair of DDR2 667?

**wrench97** · 09-25-2009, 01:24 PM

If you only have 1 stick of 667 now 2 sticks for dual channel mode of faster ram will help keep up with the card.

PhoenixWright · 09-26-2009, 03:36 AM

Oh...ok...how long will this card last me? I mean, when will the card not be able to play games at max settings?(When will it get outdated)

**wrench97** · 09-26-2009, 03:53 AM

2-3 years max, a lot will depend on how fast DX11 is picked up by the game developers and the screen size/resolution you use, I think the CPU will the limiting factor here after a year or 2 for max settings.

PhoenixWright · 09-26-2009, 04:01 AM

ok...but then i'll have to throw away the ram stick i currently own.The maximum frequency of ram that my mobo can support is 800 Mhz.

09-21-2009, 01:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
PhoenixWright Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 75 OS: xp service pack 2	Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB Hey Guys, I was going to buy a GTX 275, but till I get it, i'm stuck with my 8500 GT. So i thought of overclocking it to play the games i have.And i got EVGA precision. My current clock speeds are: Core Clock - 459 Shader Clock - 918 Memory clock - 400 How much should i overclock it?

09-21-2009, 01:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,348 OS: Win7	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB 10% max, but your not going to see a lot of difference. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-22-2009, 03:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB Why don't you wait for the new ATI 5000 series graphics cards or the new Nvidia GTX 300 series cards to come out?

09-22-2009, 04:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,348 OS: Win7	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB Theoretical is correct the card will fall on it's face before seeing those readings and have any stability. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-22-2009, 08:36 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB This card is not meant for overclocking and supports the very basic needs of a running a computer and running games at low resolutions. The cards that get the real performance boost are in the 800 range of cards. Like the 4850 or a the newer GTX 200 series cards. These cards do have the capacity to overclock well and the cooling for the card is insufficient for the needs of overclocking. Keep in mind that aftermarket coolers will cost half the price of a card when you could have bought a way better card for the same price.

09-22-2009, 09:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB The gain on a 8500GT would be very low and although yes it may be possible, having a well vented case would be a must too. The amount of heat that small fan can vent is very small. Mostly, will it stable for a long time or even in the short term and is the performance gain noticeable? I would have to say no to both of them. The low end cards should not be bothered to overclock as they have a very limited performance already.

09-23-2009, 08:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
PhoenixWright Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 75 OS: xp service pack 2	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB I know...the 8500 GT is a piece of junk. I overclocked it and the performance boost is hardly noticable. I was thinking of getting the GTX 275 in december because of the Christmas rebates. I thought of the ATI 5000 series and the GTX 300 series but the problem with that is my budget is not that expandable:( I thought of the GTX 275 as its only 220-240$ The 300 series is probably going to be really expensive.Not to mention that the 5000 series may be around $350(Radeon 5870). So is my investment worth it or can i buy some other card in that price range? BTW, i also have to buy Corsair 750W power supply.

09-23-2009, 12:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,348 OS: Win7	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB What CPU, Ram and Motherboard do you have? __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-23-2009, 12:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
Mcninjaguy Temporarily Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 10,422 OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit My System Blog Entries: 1	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB Yea the GTX 275 looks fine for you then as long as we know what ram, motherboard and CPU you have, like what Wrench asked. If your CPU is too low end then it could bottleneck the graphics and not allow it to perform to its hearts content. The ram needs to be fast enough too. If we need to suggest a faster CPU or ram then we need to know your motherboard too. I just wanted to expand on what Wrench said in the last post.

09-24-2009, 08:50 AM	#13 (permalink)
PhoenixWright Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 75 OS: xp service pack 2	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB Intel Core 2 Duo 2.53 GHz Intel DG31PR motherboard 2 GB 667 MHz RAM (i was thinking of getting another 2 GB RAM)

09-24-2009, 08:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
PhoenixWright Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 75 OS: xp service pack 2	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB BTW, this upgrade is meant for the sole purpose of gaming.

09-24-2009, 12:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,348 OS: Win7	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB Put a matched pair of DDR2 800 or 1066 in it for best results with the GTX275 __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-25-2009, 08:55 AM	#16 (permalink)
PhoenixWright Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 75 OS: xp service pack 2	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB Will it make much more difference than a pair of DDR2 667?

09-25-2009, 01:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,348 OS: Win7	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB If you only have 1 stick of 667 now 2 sticks for dual channel mode of faster ram will help keep up with the card. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-26-2009, 03:36 AM	#18 (permalink)
PhoenixWright Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 75 OS: xp service pack 2	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB Oh...ok...how long will this card last me? I mean, when will the card not be able to play games at max settings?(When will it get outdated)

09-26-2009, 03:53 AM	#19 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,348 OS: Win7	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB 2-3 years max, a lot will depend on how fast DX11 is picked up by the game developers and the screen size/resolution you use, I think the CPU will the limiting factor here after a year or 2 for max settings. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

09-26-2009, 04:01 AM	#20 (permalink)
PhoenixWright Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 75 OS: xp service pack 2	Re: Overclocking 8500 GT 512MB ok...but then i'll have to throw away the ram stick i currently own.The maximum frequency of ram that my mobo can support is 800 Mhz.