Overclocking E8400 Suggestions

smu122 · 06-15-2009, 03:14 PM

I was hoping to overclock my processor slightly... not too extreme, buy i dont think i have the required hardware. I have the stock intel heatsink and the RAM might be too cheap?

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...2/CPUZ/CPU.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/smu52/CPUZ/MB.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...UZ/Memory1.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...UZ/Memory2.jpg

Would it be safe to increase FSB just a little, in the pictures, I increased the FSB from 1333 stock to 1338. And my idle CPU is 50C and reaches 70C during Call of Duty 4
I have a 650W CoolerMaster PowerSupply. I mostly use my PC for gaming. Thanks

**manic** · 06-15-2009, 03:19 PM

List all hardware specs including power supply wattage and brand.
What version of power supply, extreme, super duper,, or what.
Only one of your pics showed up, not much help..

smu122 · 06-15-2009, 05:31 PM

Much apologies...

CPU-Z screens:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...2/CPUZ/CPU.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/smu52/CPUZ/MB.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...UZ/Memory1.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...UZ/Memory2.jpg

And This i my Power Supply: CoolerMaster 650W Extreme Power Duo:

http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/...re/1648_2.html

Thanks

**greenbrucelee** · 06-16-2009, 01:48 AM

In my opinion you need to get an aftermarket cooler if your going to be overclocking, stock heatsinks are suppose to work at cpus running at stock speed.

70 degrees is very high you are only 2 degrees of burning the chip as it's max is 72 if I remember correctly. you should aim at not going above 60 degrees and you need to use a stress testing program even for the slightest overclock. So download prime95 or OCCT or Orthos to stress the cpu. Get RealTemp to monitor the temps and set the TJ max setting to 95 and have this running whilst running a stress test. you also need to get memtest86 and to stress your ram. you should run a stress test for a few hours atleast 4 imo. Memtest will be fine for a full pass though.

My E8400 overclocks a lot but I have some good components. Overclocking is a relative thing, if all components can be pushed then you should achieve good results but if they can't you won't. A slight overclock wont really show you any preformance increase whereas a medium to big overclock will. Try rasing your FSB by 20 if it boots into windows increase it slightly and keep doing it till you get BSOD then lower to one where you get a boot then your onto changing voltages etc

smu122 · 06-16-2009, 12:03 PM

while running ORTHOS, my cpu temperatures are at 77C. Is something wrong with my HS. I have artic silver 5 recently placed. Maybe i should put back to stock?

**greenbrucelee** · 06-16-2009, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smu122

while running ORTHOS, my cpu temperatures are at 85C !

That's way to high your 15 degress of starting a fire and you don't want to do that.

smu122 · 06-16-2009, 12:24 PM

Im getting same temps with stock speeds (77C). Should i purchase a new heatsink?

**greenbrucelee** · 06-16-2009, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smu122

Im getting same temps with stock speeds (77C). Should i purchase a new heatsink?

If you are getting 77 degrees at stock speeds then yes something is wrong, I would expect that you have either put too much thermal paste on as this has the opposit effect of what it's supposed to do. It acts as an insulator instead of a dissipator.

or your cooler is dodgy but the second isn't as likely as the first.

What cooler are you using?

smu122 · 06-16-2009, 12:36 PM

Just the stock heatsink, and two case fans....

http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...articleID=2132

**greenbrucelee** · 06-16-2009, 12:40 PM

ah well you should never overclock with a stock heatsink. They are designed to cool a cpu running at stock speeds and nothing else. Becuase you have had it overclocked you could have damaged the stock cooler and that is now why you original cpu speed is showing high tempreatures.

You need to get an aftermarket cooler and probably another couple of cas fans if you are going to overclock

**greenbrucelee** · 06-16-2009, 12:43 PM

also what sort of power supply do you have?
what motherboard?
what and how much RAM do you have?

smu122 · 06-16-2009, 12:48 PM

And This i my Power Supply: CoolerMaster 650W Extreme Power Duo:
http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/...re/1648_1.html

MB:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/smu52/CPUZ/MB.jpg

Mem:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...UZ/Memory2.jpg

2G Mushkin

smu122 · 06-16-2009, 12:49 PM

Btw, What Heatsink would you recommend according to my processor? I am kind of tight on space...

**greenbrucelee** · 06-16-2009, 12:50 PM

well you might be ok with that equipment but you need to take the cooler off, take of the thermal paste of the cooler and cpu with some arti-clean and reapply it but only when you have a better cpu cooler

**greenbrucelee** · 06-16-2009, 12:52 PM

If I was to recommend a PSU then it would be a seasonic M12 (which is what I have) or a corsair 750THX which is what a lot of people recommend on here. Before you go getting better power supplies I definetly think it's a thermal pasted issue with your system and a cooling issue

smu122 · 06-16-2009, 12:53 PM

Do you think this will do well and fit?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186134

And i only went 5mhz over FSB, do you really think i damaged components?

**greenbrucelee** · 06-16-2009, 01:01 PM

yes it will fit and will do a decent job you need to look for a Socket 775 cooler and you need to investigate your hardware purchases thoroughly before buying (by reading reviews etc).

When you get another cooler you may have to take out you motherboard to be able to install it as some require a back plate to be installed on the other side of the mobo.

I use a tuniq towe but they are very big so you need plenty of room but they are very good.

**greenbrucelee** · 06-16-2009, 01:03 PM

yes it will fit and will do a decent job you need to look for a Socket 775 cooler and you need to investigate your hardware purchases thoroughly before buying (by reading reviews etc).

When you get another cooler you may have to take out you motherboard to be able to install it as some require a back plate to be installed on the other side of the mobo.

I use a tuniq towe but they are very big so you need plenty of room but they are very good.

smu122 · 06-16-2009, 01:06 PM

Great, also i had a question about "Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech." should i enable this in BIOS. Would enabling it help cooling?

**greenbrucelee** · 06-16-2009, 01:11 PM

it could do, what that does is it throttles the speed of the cpu when it is not being used to it's fullest extent. This is usually enabled from the start and switched off when overclocking.

06-15-2009, 03:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
smu122 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 37 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit	Overclocking E8400 Suggestions I was hoping to overclock my processor slightly... not too extreme, buy i dont think i have the required hardware. I have the stock intel heatsink and the RAM might be too cheap? http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...2/CPUZ/CPU.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/smu52/CPUZ/MB.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...UZ/Memory1.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...UZ/Memory2.jpg Would it be safe to increase FSB just a little, in the pictures, I increased the FSB from 1333 stock to 1338. And my idle CPU is 50C and reaches 70C during Call of Duty 4 I have a 650W CoolerMaster PowerSupply. I mostly use my PC for gaming. Thanks __________________ -Sahel

06-15-2009, 03:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
manic Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 5,195 OS: xp	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions List all hardware specs including power supply wattage and brand. What version of power supply, extreme, super duper,, or what. Only one of your pics showed up, not much help.. __________________

06-15-2009, 05:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
smu122 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 37 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions Much apologies... CPU-Z screens: http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...2/CPUZ/CPU.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/smu52/CPUZ/MB.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...UZ/Memory1.jpg http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...UZ/Memory2.jpg And This i my Power Supply: CoolerMaster 650W Extreme Power Duo: http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/...re/1648_2.html Thanks __________________ -Sahel

06-16-2009, 01:48 AM	#4 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,677 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions In my opinion you need to get an aftermarket cooler if your going to be overclocking, stock heatsinks are suppose to work at cpus running at stock speed. 70 degrees is very high you are only 2 degrees of burning the chip as it's max is 72 if I remember correctly. you should aim at not going above 60 degrees and you need to use a stress testing program even for the slightest overclock. So download prime95 or OCCT or Orthos to stress the cpu. Get RealTemp to monitor the temps and set the TJ max setting to 95 and have this running whilst running a stress test. you also need to get memtest86 and to stress your ram. you should run a stress test for a few hours atleast 4 imo. Memtest will be fine for a full pass though. My E8400 overclocks a lot but I have some good components. Overclocking is a relative thing, if all components can be pushed then you should achieve good results but if they can't you won't. A slight overclock wont really show you any preformance increase whereas a medium to big overclock will. Try rasing your FSB by 20 if it boots into windows increase it slightly and keep doing it till you get BSOD then lower to one where you get a boot then your onto changing voltages etc __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified Last edited by greenbrucelee; 06-16-2009 at 01:52 AM.

06-16-2009, 12:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
smu122 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 37 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions while running ORTHOS, my cpu temperatures are at 77C. Is something wrong with my HS. I have artic silver 5 recently placed. Maybe i should put back to stock? __________________ -Sahel Last edited by smu122; 06-16-2009 at 12:08 PM.

06-16-2009, 12:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
smu122 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 37 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions Im getting same temps with stock speeds (77C). Should i purchase a new heatsink? __________________ -Sahel

06-16-2009, 12:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
smu122 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 37 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions Just the stock heatsink, and two case fans.... http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...articleID=2132 __________________ -Sahel Last edited by smu122; 06-16-2009 at 12:37 PM.

06-16-2009, 12:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,677 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions ah well you should never overclock with a stock heatsink. They are designed to cool a cpu running at stock speeds and nothing else. Becuase you have had it overclocked you could have damaged the stock cooler and that is now why you original cpu speed is showing high tempreatures. You need to get an aftermarket cooler and probably another couple of cas fans if you are going to overclock __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified

06-16-2009, 12:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,677 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions also what sort of power supply do you have? what motherboard? what and how much RAM do you have? __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified

06-16-2009, 12:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
smu122 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 37 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions And This i my Power Supply: CoolerMaster 650W Extreme Power Duo: http://www.motherboards.org/reviews/...re/1648_1.html MB: http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e14/smu52/CPUZ/MB.jpg Mem: http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1...UZ/Memory2.jpg 2G Mushkin __________________ -Sahel

06-16-2009, 12:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
smu122 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 37 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions Btw, What Heatsink would you recommend according to my processor? I am kind of tight on space... __________________ -Sahel

06-16-2009, 12:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,677 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions well you might be ok with that equipment but you need to take the cooler off, take of the thermal paste of the cooler and cpu with some arti-clean and reapply it but only when you have a better cpu cooler __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified

06-16-2009, 12:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,677 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions If I was to recommend a PSU then it would be a seasonic M12 (which is what I have) or a corsair 750THX which is what a lot of people recommend on here. Before you go getting better power supplies I definetly think it's a thermal pasted issue with your system and a cooling issue __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified

06-16-2009, 12:53 PM	#16 (permalink)
smu122 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 37 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions Do you think this will do well and fit? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186134 And i only went 5mhz over FSB, do you really think i damaged components? __________________ -Sahel Last edited by smu122; 06-16-2009 at 12:55 PM.

06-16-2009, 01:01 PM	#17 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,677 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions yes it will fit and will do a decent job you need to look for a Socket 775 cooler and you need to investigate your hardware purchases thoroughly before buying (by reading reviews etc). When you get another cooler you may have to take out you motherboard to be able to install it as some require a back plate to be installed on the other side of the mobo. I use a tuniq towe but they are very big so you need plenty of room but they are very good. __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified

06-16-2009, 01:03 PM	#18 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,677 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions yes it will fit and will do a decent job you need to look for a Socket 775 cooler and you need to investigate your hardware purchases thoroughly before buying (by reading reviews etc). When you get another cooler you may have to take out you motherboard to be able to install it as some require a back plate to be installed on the other side of the mobo. I use a tuniq towe but they are very big so you need plenty of room but they are very good. __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified

06-16-2009, 01:06 PM	#19 (permalink)
smu122 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 37 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions Great, also i had a question about "Enhanced Intel Speedstep Tech." should i enable this in BIOS. Would enabling it help cooling? __________________ -Sahel

06-16-2009, 01:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
greenbrucelee Mentor Hardware team Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,677 OS: XP SP3 My System	Re: Overclocking E8400 Suggestions it could do, what that does is it throttles the speed of the cpu when it is not being used to it's fullest extent. This is usually enabled from the start and switched off when overclocking. __________________ Microsoft certified professional, Network +, A+ certified