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New to Overclocking, any help would be nice!
Ok I will post my specs below than some comments:
CPU Cooler ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Aftermarket:Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Processors Information ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Processor 1 (ID = 0) Number of cores 2 (max 2) Number of threads 2 (max 2) Name Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Codename Wolfdale Specification Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8500 @ 3.16GHz Chipset ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Northbridge NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI SPP rev. A2 Southbridge NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI MCP rev. A2 Graphic Interface PCI-Express PCI-E Link Width x16 PCI-E Max Link Width x16 Memory Type DDR2 Memory Size 4096 MBytes Channels Dual Memory Frequency 400.0 MHz (5:6) CAS# 5.0 RAS# to CAS# 5 RAS# Precharge 5 Cycle Time (tRAS) 18 Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 22 Command Rate 2T Memory SPD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DIMM #1 and #2 General Memory type DDR2 Module format Regular UDIMM Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000) Size 2048 MBytes Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz) Part number CM2X2048-6400C5 Attributes Number of banks 2 Data width 64 bits Correction None Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts EPP no XMP no Timings table Frequency (MHz) 270 400 CAS# 4.0 5.0 RAS# to CAS# delay 4 5 RAS# Precharge 4 5 TRAS 13 18 TRC 15 22 Monitoring ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mainboard Model 122-CK-NF68 (0x27F - 0x5801680) Hardware monitor ----------------------------------------------------- Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 hardware monitor Temperature sensor 0 39°C (102°F) [0x3D] (Core #0) Temperature sensor 1 39°C (102°F) [0x3D] (Core #1) Dump hardware monitor VIDEO CARD ----------------------------------------------------- GeForce GTX 285 hardware monitor Temperature sensor 0 37°C (98°F) [0x25] (GPU Core) Dump hardware monitor DMI ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DMI BIOS -------- vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD version 6.00 PG date 01/22/2008 DMI System Information ---------------------- manufacturer EVGA product 122-CK-NF68 version 2 serial 1 UUID CA5BA21A-064B0400-00000000-00000000 DMI Baseboard ------------- vendor EVGA model 122-CK-NF68 revision 2 serial 1 DMI Processor ------------- manufacturer Intel model Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU clock speed 3164.0 MHz FSB speed 333.0 MHz multiplier 9.5x Software ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 and Vista 64bit (Dual Boot) DirectX Version 9.0c ( XP ) MOre Temperature readings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hardware Monitoring : Winbond W83627DHG Voltage CPU : 1.10 V +3.3V Voltage : 3.26 V +5V Voltage : 4.80 V +12V Voltage : 9.93 V Processor Fan : 874 rpm Processor Temperature (Core 1) : 44 °C Processor Temperature (Core 2) : 44 °C Mainboard Temperature : 30 °C Video Monitoring : nVidia Driver GPU Temperature : 38 °C GPU Ambient : 29 °C GPU Fan : 100% : Hard Disk Monitoring : S.M.A.R.T Hard Disk Temperature ST3500630AS : 27 °C Hard Disk Temperature WDC WD1500AHFD-00RAR1 : 26 °C Hard Disk Temperature WDC WD1500ADFD-00NLR1 : 26 °C PSU ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Antec 1000 Watt True Power Quattro Model:TPQ-1000 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Half life 2 for 45 min..... Temps I know its not most intensive game but that's what I played.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Processor Temperature (Core 1) : 44 °C Processor Temperature (Core 2) : 45 °C Mainboard Temperature : 32.5 °C : Video Monitoring : nVidia Driver GPU Temperature : 49 °C GPU Ambient : 40 °C GPU Fan : 100% ------------------------------- So based in this post I would just like some general thoughts and general guidance.... That would be most helpful and most appreciated. I am new to Overclocking, but yea, any help/guidance would be great.... Thanks. Last edited by Brico; 04-25-2009 at 08:48 PM. |
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Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice!
Maybe Im reading this wrong,,
Hardware Monitoring : Winbond W83627DHG Voltage CPU : 1.10 V +3.3V Voltage : 3.26 V +5V Voltage : 4.80 V +12V Voltage : 9.93 V<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Processor Fan : 874 rpm Processor Temperature (Core 1) : 44 °C Processor Temperature (Core 2) : 44 °C Mainboard Temperature : 30 °C 12v voltage at 9.93, that is not a good sign, if its being reported correctly. You should be at 11.80 to 12.00 range,, Temps are a little high on the cores as well.... What does bios report the 12V Voltage at? Should be in hardware monitor.
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Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice!
Sry I didnt get back earlier. As far as overclocking goes you really need
to keep a eye on the temps of the cpu. The easiest way is to try and up the multiplier in bios, if its not blocked. If you cant do that, the other way is to play around with the fsb, front side bus, which is pumping up your ram. But if you do this, do it a little at a time. Your looking for a happy medium of the tempeture, and stability.
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Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice!
ok, i got a overclocking guide form nvidia website for my MOBO so i can disable what i need to. One question I'm not in a hot room, its a cooler room. With that said you think i might have not spread heatsink well enough, or something? Maybe that why its higher? Im using antec 900 case and it has an amazing amount of fans on it.
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Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice!
If the 41c and 42c readings were under a load, those are good temps.
But if those temps were at idle, I would say you need to bring those temps down. You really should be in the mid to low 30's at idle. Another thing that is working against you is the power supply location. Directly underneath the video card, just like a heater, as if the vid card needs more heat...
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Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice!
idle is around 38 c regularly.... after playing music and using after effects it was up around 42 to 43....... Im not sure... maybe just case??? Maybe Ill just overclock it slightly..... Im not sure...
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Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice!
Temps can change quickly, so if you measured the temps after quitting crysis, it doesn't represent what they were at the time when the game was running.
Try running a stress test software like prime 95, run it two times, then set affinity for each of the process in task manager for different cores. look at temps after running it for a few minutes. Last edited by ssj4Gogeta; 05-20-2009 at 09:25 PM. |
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Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice!
Hi there Brinco. Man, don't take this wrong? But as far as overclocking is concerned. You must first change your processor.
Your graphics card is way too heavy for it. You've got a heavy RAM with 64-bit OS and heavy power-supply. Your processor may not hold everything for long time. Better change it to quad (not i7 or you'll have to change nearly everything in your computer). People here are stating correct about over-clocking but consider my advice just once. Upgrade your processor to a better one and then try overclocking because Intel Dual core wasn't actually made for overclocking u know.
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Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice!
So question, does everyone believe every thing that kksonakiya stated? Because I have looked a t many different benchmarking sites and many say the higher clock rate of the e8500 is better then many of the lower quad cores. However kksonakiya does bring some interesting points about my GPU and ram i guess, hmm, im at a loss.
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Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice!
Brico, not at all. Don't listen to him. E8500 is one of the BEST overclockers, and it's good that you've got a heavy power supply and a great graphics card. It's not some kind of weightlifting that the heavier your PSU and graphics card the processor can't lift it.
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Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice!
There should be a setting in the Bios called Dynamic Fan Control. It can be adjusted from the Auto setting to anything between 0-100%. See if it's set to Auto. I would follow what ssj4Gogeta said and monitor what the temp is after it's ran for a bit. I allways set my Cpu fan to run max at all times, but some may disagree with that. Your temps aren't that bad, but if your going to overclock I suggest that you run the fan at max.
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Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice!
Thank you guys for the posts. I really, really appreciate it, you made me feel alot better, in the back of my mind I felt that i new i was correct, but its glad to have some others that are knowledgeable tell it how it is. Ok I will look into the dynamic fan control settings, and report back after doing some tests. Thank you guys......
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Hence, Brinco, try to overclock your processor lower than that because the hardware which my friend used was more powerful (not Heavy Gogeta) than yours. I wasn't talking about weight lifting or anything. I was stating about the heat dissipation which our dear friends are discussing as temp.
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You wouldn't have to try different combinations of voltages, latencies, FSB, dividers, multipliers, etc. That would be really boring.So, try to find the highest stable overclock. Run many stress tests, if it can pass them all, there is no reason why "your processor may not hold it for long". After all that's what the stability tests are for. If it passes the tests, try to go higher, until it doesn't pass them anymore. If it doesn't pass the tests, gives you BSOD, etc. lower it a bit, bump up the voltage, try other combinations, etc. and try again. Good luck.
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