New to Overclocking, any help would be nice! - Page 2

kksonakiya · 05-29-2009, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ssj4Gogeta

uh, what does it have to do with your friend??? Every chip is different, even if it's the same model. Your friend got it to 4.322, doesn't mean Brico will also hit a wall there. He may be able to get it much higher.

from your last post:

This alone shows your ignorance.

heavy? i don't understand that. what's it too heavy for?

heavy again? what's a heavy RAM?

yes, 32-bit is better for overclocking. But he NEEDS 64-bit if he wants to be able to address all of that 4 GB memory and the 1 GB graphics memory on his GTX285.

again, what's a heavy power-supply?

WHY?

No Brico, you don't need to set any artificial limits on your overclock. Go all out and clock as far as your hardware can take it. Every piece of hardware has its own limitations, even if it's the same model. Your hardware may well be able to take more than that. Overclocking isn't just learning some formulae and just bumping up the FSB in the BIOS. It's about finding the absolute limit of YOUR particular piece of hardware. If all pieces of the same model didn't overclock differently, then there would be model-specific guides on the web, and you could just read one and set your settings exactly like the other person did. Would be easy if it were like that, but that would take all the fun out of overclocking.

You wouldn't have to try different combinations of voltages, latencies, FSB, dividers, multipliers, etc. That would be really boring.

So, try to find the highest stable overclock. Run many stress tests, if it can pass them all, there is no reason why "your processor may not hold it for long". After all that's what the stability tests are for. If it passes the tests, try to go higher, until it doesn't pass them anymore. If it doesn't pass the tests, gives you BSOD, etc. lower it a bit, bump up the voltage, try other combinations, etc. and try again.

Good luck.

You like being offensive, gogeta, isn't it? By heavy I mean powerful and then, every hardware has a limit and that's a sure thing. (what did you think anyway? Heavy = By weight!!!)
Hardware has nothing to do with my friend, that's true. But dude I wasn't saying that it's my friend who is able to push his overclocking to the absolute limit.
In the end, it's not you or my friend, it's just the capability of your hardware. So if you want to comment on each of my line then be my guest.
But I am writing what I have experienced. My experience may not be as great as yours but it is not "absolute zero".
I got to gain more experience and that's a sure thing. So keep commenting friend, as it will help neither of us.

kksonakiya · 05-29-2009, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssj4Gogeta

uh, what does it have to do with your friend??? Every chip is different, even if it's the same model. Your friend got it to 4.322, doesn't mean Brico will also hit a wall there. He may be able to get it much higher.

from your last post:

This alone shows your ignorance.

heavy? i don't understand that. what's it too heavy for?

heavy again? what's a heavy RAM?

yes, 32-bit is better for overclocking. But he NEEDS 64-bit if he wants to be able to address all of that 4 GB memory and the 1 GB graphics memory on his GTX285.

again, what's a heavy power-supply?

WHY?

No Brico, you don't need to set any artificial limits on your overclock. Go all out and clock as far as your hardware can take it. Every piece of hardware has its own limitations, even if it's the same model. Your hardware may well be able to take more than that. Overclocking isn't just learning some formulae and just bumping up the FSB in the BIOS. It's about finding the absolute limit of YOUR particular piece of hardware. If all pieces of the same model didn't overclock differently, then there would be model-specific guides on the web, and you could just read one and set your settings exactly like the other person did. Would be easy if it were like that, but that would take all the fun out of overclocking.

You wouldn't have to try different combinations of voltages, latencies, FSB, dividers, multipliers, etc. That would be really boring.

So, try to find the highest stable overclock. Run many stress tests, if it can pass them all, there is no reason why "your processor may not hold it for long". After all that's what the stability tests are for. If it passes the tests, try to go higher, until it doesn't pass them anymore. If it doesn't pass the tests, gives you BSOD, etc. lower it a bit, bump up the voltage, try other combinations, etc. and try again.

Good luck.

And you didn't tell anything new with the need of 64-bit OS. Everyone knows it already. Me too (a ignorant).

**ssj4Gogeta** · 05-29-2009, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kksonakiya

You like being offensive, gogeta, isn't it? By heavy I mean powerful and then, every hardware has a limit and that's a sure thing. (what did you think anyway? Heavy = By weight!!!)
Hardware has nothing to do with my friend, that's true. But dude I wasn't saying that it's my friend who is able to push his overclocking to the absolute limit.
In the end, it's not you or my friend, it's just the capability of your hardware. So if you want to comment on each of my line then be my guest.
But I am writing what I have experienced. My experience may not be as great as yours but it is not "absolute zero".
I got to gain more experience and that's a sure thing. So keep commenting friend, as it will help neither of us.

I don't "like" being offensive. I just don't agree with you. Do you mean that his processor won't be able to hold on because he's got too powerful PSU and RAM? I fail to see the logic in that argument. And do you think a GTX285 will be bottlenecked by an E8500? If so, you're wrong. If we were talking tri-SLI here, then I'd recommend going with a quad-core. But a single GTX285?

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Originally Posted by kksonakiya

And you didn't tell anything new with the need of 64-bit OS. Everyone knows it already. Me too (a ignorant).

Everyone knows that. I mentioned that because you said "You've got a heavy RAM with 64-bit OS and heavy power-supply. Your processor may not hold everything for long time." Well, so what does he do? 32-bit isn't an option.

Call it offensive or whatever you like. I was just trying to tell Brico not to follow your advice about upgrading to a quad-core when he doesn't need it, and I gave my logic behind it.

Anyways, I'm not going to reply further about this because I don't want this to turn into a flame war.

kksonakiya · 05-29-2009, 02:59 PM

Gogeta, It is not going to turn into a flame war or anything. We are all friends here dude. And I am no big geek or anything.
Alright, I did the mistake and advised him wrong, I take all of my words back and apologize to you.
I know that you are way better than me and don't tell me that you will not respond to me when i call for a help. Because from the next time I don't want to confuse people due to my own mistakes and as far as this matter is concerned, I learned quite a lot about the real thing.
Thanks for at least commenting on my posts.

**ssj4Gogeta** · 05-29-2009, 04:20 PM

No need to apologize. And I'm not claiming I'm better.

kksonakiya · 05-30-2009, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ssj4Gogeta

No need to apologize. And I'm not claiming I'm better.

So, are we cool now? I hope so. I'll surely gather more knowledge in these fields. I think let's start now. Does overclocking really helps in performance improvement?

**ssj4Gogeta** · 05-30-2009, 05:04 AM

Yes of course it does. But I suggest you create a new thread for that. We've already hijacked this poor guy's thread.

Sorry Brico.

kksonakiya · 05-30-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ssj4Gogeta

Yes of course it does. But I suggest you create a new thread for that. We've already hijacked this poor guy's thread.

Sorry Brico.

Alrighty then, I think so too

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05-29-2009, 02:59 PM	#24 (permalink)
kksonakiya Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bhopal, India Posts: 10 OS: Windows Seven RC	Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice! Gogeta, It is not going to turn into a flame war or anything. We are all friends here dude. And I am no big geek or anything. Alright, I did the mistake and advised him wrong, I take all of my words back and apologize to you. I know that you are way better than me and don't tell me that you will not respond to me when i call for a help. Because from the next time I don't want to confuse people due to my own mistakes and as far as this matter is concerned, I learned quite a lot about the real thing. Thanks for at least commenting on my posts. __________________ Don't Believe what you learn! Just Learn What You Believe!! (think million times before making fun of above quote.)

05-29-2009, 04:20 PM	#25 (permalink)
ssj4Gogeta Custom User Title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: India Posts: 1,865 OS: Windows XP SP2, Vista, Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex, Leopard (Kalyway) My System	Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice! No need to apologize. And I'm not claiming I'm better.

05-30-2009, 05:04 AM	#27 (permalink)
ssj4Gogeta Custom User Title Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: India Posts: 1,865 OS: Windows XP SP2, Vista, Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex, Leopard (Kalyway) My System	Re: New to Overclocking, any help would be nice! Yes of course it does. But I suggest you create a new thread for that. We've already hijacked this poor guy's thread. Sorry Brico.