e6850 failure - Page 2

MeltdownPrelude · 04-13-2009, 05:26 PM

i have tried cpu voltage, i have never tried NB voltage, that never even crossed my mind. ill put it up one notch and write back. i do have an aftermarket cooler, the absolute best i could find (for air) that i could find at the time i built that computer. all of my components are very good, which is why im so frustrated that i cant overclock.... at all

MeltdownPrelude · 04-13-2009, 06:02 PM

NB can only go from 1.25 (default) to 1.275 which is the smallest bump i can give it 0.025 not .01.

CPU bump goes from +.0250 to .0375. i did .0250

set memory manually to 2.2 which is the rated voltage on the box

took a long shot at my FSB setting it to 1511 about 3.4ghz

computer locked up after 15 seconds core temp reading temps at about 40c

**linderman** · 04-13-2009, 06:05 PM

I know you wont like this ............ but I would dump that door stop on ebay and get a decent P45 gigabyte board like the GA-EP45-UD3L........... the rest of your parts will hit 3.6 or 3.8

sell off the MSI board on ebay for $40.00 to $50.00

MeltdownPrelude · 04-13-2009, 07:01 PM

i highly doubt its the board... there are a lot of people that use the board to truly great success. frankly i've never heard of anyone that hasn't done well with it.

one thing, when running orthos should i be setting it to

"small ffts - Stress CPU" or blend?

**linderman** · 04-13-2009, 07:09 PM

http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=120834.0

Tried flashing to 1.32 beta and still no luck...flashing back up to 1.3. Tried moving the memory to 667 and even 533, also tried various other fsb freqencies with memory at 1:1, 1.5:1, 2:1...nothing....will not boot past 1199. Tried leaving timings on auto, then extremely loose (6-6-6-16), changing voltages does nothing for me....the only that that slightly helps is raising vtt.....it won't even try to boot on anything less than 16%......I guess I got a dud since others have managed to overclock quads with some success. I'm tired of messing with it, so I'm going to RMA and get a P35. Thanks for all your help and trying to get my board a decent overclock.

**linderman** · 04-13-2009, 07:10 PM

This silly board I got really cheap, and was really dissapointed, almost gave up. I wasn't getting much trouble in getting it to work, only NOTHING was stable. I used a day and a night to find inspiration to something that might. A guy tried these settings, that also worked on my P6N Diamond, on his P6N Platinum.

FSB 1400Mhz
MEM 700Mhz
RAM 2.1V (works on my OCZ SLI RAM)
CPU +0.05V
FSB 1.5V
VTT +20%

Don't know if it's safe, but it passed both OCCT and 3dMark06. It's a quick way I check if something works, the two programs seem to harass the system in different ways, if one likes it, the other might hate it and vice versa. Don't know exactly why, but figured it's quicker than running neverending Prime for days.

But does anyone know if using +20% VTT will kill this board? Or the 1.5V NB? On other 680i boards 1.5V NB seems normal, but on this board it's very high.

**linderman** · 04-13-2009, 07:14 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25...mond-past-8ghz

MeltdownPrelude · 04-13-2009, 07:32 PM

im confused as to what your are trying to say with those last few posts. the first one is a guy getting a stable 700mhz OC, the second talks about a guy that got somthing working with that board and the 3rd is a different board alltogether

**linderman** · 04-13-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linderman

This silly board I got really cheap, and was really dissapointed, almost gave up. I wasn't getting much trouble in getting it to work, only NOTHING was stable. I used a day and a night to find inspiration to something that might. A guy tried these settings, that also worked on my P6N Diamond, on his P6N Platinum.

FSB 1400Mhz
MEM 700Mhz
RAM 2.1V (works on my OCZ SLI RAM)
CPU +0.05V
FSB 1.5V
VTT +20%

Don't know if it's safe, but it passed both OCCT and 3dMark06. It's a quick way I check if something works, the two programs seem to harass the system in different ways, if one likes it, the other might hate it and vice versa. Don't know exactly why, but figured it's quicker than running neverending Prime for days.

But does anyone know if using +20% VTT will kill this board? Or the 1.5V NB? On other 680i boards 1.5V NB seems normal, but on this board it's very high.

**linderman** · 04-13-2009, 07:36 PM

read thru all the responses in the link from post #27 ...........doesnt sound like so much success to me ?

MeltdownPrelude · 04-13-2009, 07:40 PM

that isnt the same motherboard bro, thats p7n, it didnt get anywhere near as good reviews as the p6n and its not the same chipset

MeltdownPrelude · 04-14-2009, 09:45 AM

I've managed a stable 3.3ghz overclock, which is kinda weak but better then nothing.
default Voltages
default ram settings
default NB

just manually set ram voltage to 2.2 as directed by the box and set the FSB to 1467. It sucks that i can only get 10% out of this cpu but im now convinced that i do have a "dud" e6850. not everyone can get a good one, and im one of the few that didn't. I draw this conclusion based on how well my roommates q6600 did in my system. we got that to 3.2 stable a few months ago. thats an 800mhz increase... obviously my mobo is fine.

anyhow, any ideas as to why even with eist disabled and my power options set rite my multiplier still lowers to 6 in windows unles theres load?

cyber123 · 04-15-2009, 04:14 AM

Diet can well restrict the good intake and help lead a stay fitcolorful life. it also helps to and healthy.

**linderman** · 04-15-2009, 10:39 AM

disregard

MeltdownPrelude · 04-15-2009, 09:55 PM

meh not so stable. im back to stock speeds. sucks to be me

04-13-2009, 05:26 PM	#21 (permalink)
MeltdownPrelude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41 OS: XP Pro	Re: e6850 failure i have tried cpu voltage, i have never tried NB voltage, that never even crossed my mind. ill put it up one notch and write back. i do have an aftermarket cooler, the absolute best i could find (for air) that i could find at the time i built that computer. all of my components are very good, which is why im so frustrated that i cant overclock.... at all Last edited by MeltdownPrelude; 04-13-2009 at 05:37 PM.

04-13-2009, 06:02 PM	#22 (permalink)
MeltdownPrelude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41 OS: XP Pro	Re: e6850 failure NB can only go from 1.25 (default) to 1.275 which is the smallest bump i can give it 0.025 not .01. CPU bump goes from +.0250 to .0375. i did .0250 set memory manually to 2.2 which is the rated voltage on the box took a long shot at my FSB setting it to 1511 about 3.4ghz computer locked up after 15 seconds core temp reading temps at about 40c

04-13-2009, 06:05 PM	#23 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: e6850 failure I know you wont like this ............ but I would dump that door stop on ebay and get a decent P45 gigabyte board like the GA-EP45-UD3L........... the rest of your parts will hit 3.6 or 3.8 sell off the MSI board on ebay for $40.00 to $50.00 __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial Last edited by linderman; 04-13-2009 at 06:07 PM.

04-13-2009, 07:01 PM	#24 (permalink)
MeltdownPrelude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41 OS: XP Pro	Re: e6850 failure i highly doubt its the board... there are a lot of people that use the board to truly great success. frankly i've never heard of anyone that hasn't done well with it. one thing, when running orthos should i be setting it to "small ffts - Stress CPU" or blend? Last edited by MeltdownPrelude; 04-13-2009 at 07:23 PM.

04-13-2009, 07:09 PM	#25 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: e6850 failure http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=120834.0 Tried flashing to 1.32 beta and still no luck...flashing back up to 1.3. Tried moving the memory to 667 and even 533, also tried various other fsb freqencies with memory at 1:1, 1.5:1, 2:1...nothing....will not boot past 1199. Tried leaving timings on auto, then extremely loose (6-6-6-16), changing voltages does nothing for me....the only that that slightly helps is raising vtt.....it won't even try to boot on anything less than 16%......I guess I got a dud since others have managed to overclock quads with some success. I'm tired of messing with it, so I'm going to RMA and get a P35. Thanks for all your help and trying to get my board a decent overclock. __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial Last edited by linderman; 04-13-2009 at 07:34 PM.

04-13-2009, 07:10 PM	#26 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: e6850 failure This silly board I got really cheap, and was really dissapointed, almost gave up. I wasn't getting much trouble in getting it to work, only NOTHING was stable. I used a day and a night to find inspiration to something that might. A guy tried these settings, that also worked on my P6N Diamond, on his P6N Platinum. FSB 1400Mhz MEM 700Mhz RAM 2.1V (works on my OCZ SLI RAM) CPU +0.05V FSB 1.5V VTT +20% Don't know if it's safe, but it passed both OCCT and 3dMark06. It's a quick way I check if something works, the two programs seem to harass the system in different ways, if one likes it, the other might hate it and vice versa. Don't know exactly why, but figured it's quicker than running neverending Prime for days. But does anyone know if using +20% VTT will kill this board? Or the 1.5V NB? On other 680i boards 1.5V NB seems normal, but on this board it's very high. __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

04-13-2009, 07:14 PM	#27 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: e6850 failure http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25...mond-past-8ghz __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

04-13-2009, 07:32 PM	#28 (permalink)
MeltdownPrelude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41 OS: XP Pro	Re: e6850 failure im confused as to what your are trying to say with those last few posts. the first one is a guy getting a stable 700mhz OC, the second talks about a guy that got somthing working with that board and the 3rd is a different board alltogether

04-13-2009, 07:36 PM	#30 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: e6850 failure read thru all the responses in the link from post #27 ...........doesnt sound like so much success to me ? __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

04-13-2009, 07:40 PM	#31 (permalink)
MeltdownPrelude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41 OS: XP Pro	Re: e6850 failure that isnt the same motherboard bro, thats p7n, it didnt get anywhere near as good reviews as the p6n and its not the same chipset Last edited by MeltdownPrelude; 04-13-2009 at 07:41 PM.

04-14-2009, 09:45 AM	#32 (permalink)
MeltdownPrelude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41 OS: XP Pro	Re: e6850 failure I've managed a stable 3.3ghz overclock, which is kinda weak but better then nothing. default Voltages default ram settings default NB just manually set ram voltage to 2.2 as directed by the box and set the FSB to 1467. It sucks that i can only get 10% out of this cpu but im now convinced that i do have a "dud" e6850. not everyone can get a good one, and im one of the few that didn't. I draw this conclusion based on how well my roommates q6600 did in my system. we got that to 3.2 stable a few months ago. thats an 800mhz increase... obviously my mobo is fine. anyhow, any ideas as to why even with eist disabled and my power options set rite my multiplier still lowers to 6 in windows unles theres load?

04-15-2009, 04:14 AM	#33 (permalink)
cyber123 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1 OS: windowsxp	Re: e6850 failure Diet can well restrict the good intake and help lead a stay fitcolorful life. it also helps to and healthy.

04-15-2009, 10:39 AM	#34 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: e6850 failure disregard __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

04-15-2009, 09:55 PM	#35 (permalink)
MeltdownPrelude Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 41 OS: XP Pro	Re: e6850 failure meh not so stable. im back to stock speeds. sucks to be me