NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed

wallyveira · 02-24-2009, 10:44 AM

hi , as the title says im newby here...
ok this is my question\help needed...
like 3 weeks ago i bought this:

MOTHERBOARD: ASROCK G31M-GS INTELG31 SK775

CPU
- LGA 775 for Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme / Core™ 2 Quad / Core™ 2 Duo / Pentium® Dual Core / Celeron® Dual Core / Celeron®, supporting Penryn Quad Core Yorkfield and Dual Core Wolfdale processors
- Compatible with all FSB1600*/1333/1066/800/533MHz CPUs
- Supports Hyper-Threading Technology
- Supports Untied Overclocking Technology
- Supports EM64T CPU

Chipset
- Northbridge: Intel® G31
- Southbridge: Intel® ICH7

Memory
- Dual Channel DDR2 memory technology
- 2 x DDR2 DIMM slots
- Supports DDR2 800/667/533 non-ECC, un-buffered memory
- Max. capacity of system memory: 8GB*

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CPU: INTEL PENTIUM D E2220 2.4GHZ 775 FSB800 1MB BOX

-2.4GHz
-FSB:800MHz
-65nm

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RAM: 2X KINGSTON DDR2 1024MB 800MHZ

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HARD DISK: WESTERN DIGITAL HARD DISK 320GB 16MB SATA II

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GRAPHIC CARD: ZOTAC 9800GT SYNERGY 512MB PCI-E

-Gpu: GEFORCE 9800GT
-256 Bit
-512MB DDR3
-Mem:1800MHz
-Gpu:600MHz
-DVI-I + DVI-I + S-Video

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COOLING: here comes the bad part... i have the default cpu fan and 2 old ones (120mm) at the box.
after reading some forums i found that ARCTIC COOLING FREEZER 7 PRO (cpu cooling) could be an option, maybe not great but maybe enought...

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Power Supply Unit: 520W (21A - 12V)

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BOX - LINKWORLD BOX ATX 431-06 BLACK

and after reading some forums and the starters overclocking guide i dicided to write this to ask for some help to get some extra speed for my cpu
My goal for this cpu without spending much $ is around 3.2 ghz (from 2.4ghz default speed).
reading the "linderman" "if you are new to overclocking / read here for starters" guide i think i got all the information asked there to get some help from you masters

well im missing the cpu temp... but i add it later probably tomorrow...
for now is all i have and if u can help me i'll be very happy

P.S. - im portuguese , so if u find some text not so well writen... excuse me... and tkx again

**linderman** · 02-24-2009, 11:27 AM

print out this manual and review the bios options

http://www.asrock.com/mb/manual.asp?Model=G31M-GS&s=775

please give us your memory stick model numbers (use cpu-z to find this info ) <<<<free download

what is the make and model number of your power supply

wallyveira · 02-24-2009, 11:36 AM

k , tkx for helping me...
im at work atm , so soon as i get home i check all that details , and tomorrow tell here...
btw , i also have a OS question , what should i use: win xp pro sp3 or vista home edition?
i will only touch in bios when i feel i can do it with min risk
as you said on your post "im doing this for the adventure and to learn how things work
tkx again!

**linderman** · 02-24-2009, 12:50 PM

xp uses less computer resources

wallyveira · 02-25-2009, 04:10 AM

memories model nº

power suply unit nº - 0804106998

after i used "OC TUNER" software that came with motherboard cd.
this is under stress , after 15min of stress.

after 20min doing nothing on it.

wallyveira · 02-25-2009, 04:20 AM

after i tryed OC with "OC TUNER" , witch when i reboot the pc takes the oc changes back to normal.

i changed the cpu frequency in bios to 12x 242mhz and got the cpu working at 2.900mhz stable (i think), temps stayed around 20ºC to 35ºC.

also i tried to change the cpu voltage but i was not able to find that in the bios

**linderman** · 02-25-2009, 07:04 AM

by simply changing the FSB and the multiplier are you able to get stable stress test for one hour at 2.9ghz ?

read your manual .............. I gave link >>>>>>>>> it will show you how to find the cpu voltage option

wallyveira · 02-25-2009, 07:53 AM

at 2.9mhz he was stable for 9hrs, doing nothing just turned on...

i have printed the guide u told me and i have read it , and after googling a bit for vcore voltage for my board , i found a video on youtube, a review, and they say that board doesn't aloud vcore voltage changes...

wallyveira · 02-25-2009, 07:56 AM

the multiplier i didnt touch it yet
and when i tried to get 3.2mhz he crashed when i tried to play f.e.a.r. 2...
do you think i can get 3.2mhz without changing vcore voltage but changing the multiplier??

**linderman** · 02-25-2009, 04:01 PM

you will need voltage increase at the cpu to get above 2.9 ghz .............. I will look at your manual .......... I was sure there is a way to enter voltages increases

you can for sure with that overclocking program you are using by selecting the "voltage" button

wallyveira · 02-26-2009, 03:32 AM

yes , in that software i have a menu for voltage.

the problem is that i only have: RAM voltage , vtt voltage , nb voltage and +1.5 voltage.

in bios there are only the same voltage options...

**linderman** · 02-26-2009, 07:21 AM

maybe this guy will shed some light ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmbdT5LPGTU

have you tried the latest bios ?

youre not going to get a full featured overclocking settings with an economy board ....... thats why the P35 and P45 chipsets are soooo popular

**linderman** · 02-26-2009, 07:27 AM

this guy seems to be modding bios files to allow more options

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/lof...0505-1400.html

he may be able to unlock your vcore setting ?

wallyveira · 02-26-2009, 07:36 AM

wow , tkx so very much for your interest about my issue ;)
i'll give it a try and i tell u the results later
(today i brought my pc to work :P)

02-24-2009, 10:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
wallyveira Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8 OS: win xp sp2	NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed hi , as the title says im newby here... ok this is my question\help needed... like 3 weeks ago i bought this: MOTHERBOARD: ASROCK G31M-GS INTELG31 SK775 CPU - LGA 775 for Intel® Core™ 2 Extreme / Core™ 2 Quad / Core™ 2 Duo / Pentium® Dual Core / Celeron® Dual Core / Celeron®, supporting Penryn Quad Core Yorkfield and Dual Core Wolfdale processors - Compatible with all FSB1600/1333/1066/800/533MHz CPUs - Supports Hyper-Threading Technology - Supports Untied Overclocking Technology - Supports EM64T CPU Chipset - Northbridge: Intel® G31 - Southbridge: Intel® ICH7 Memory - Dual Channel DDR2 memory technology - 2 x DDR2 DIMM slots - Supports DDR2 800/667/533 non-ECC, un-buffered memory - Max. capacity of system memory: 8GB ------------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU: INTEL PENTIUM D E2220 2.4GHZ 775 FSB800 1MB BOX -2.4GHz -FSB:800MHz -65nm -------------------------------------------------------------------------- RAM: 2X KINGSTON DDR2 1024MB 800MHZ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- HARD DISK: WESTERN DIGITAL HARD DISK 320GB 16MB SATA II -------------------------------------------------------------------------- GRAPHIC CARD: ZOTAC 9800GT SYNERGY 512MB PCI-E -Gpu: GEFORCE 9800GT -256 Bit -512MB DDR3 -Mem:1800MHz -Gpu:600MHz -DVI-I + DVI-I + S-Video -------------------------------------------------------------------------- COOLING: here comes the bad part... i have the default cpu fan and 2 old ones (120mm) at the box. after reading some forums i found that ARCTIC COOLING FREEZER 7 PRO (cpu cooling) could be an option, maybe not great but maybe enought... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Power Supply Unit: 520W (21A - 12V) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- BOX - LINKWORLD BOX ATX 431-06 BLACK and after reading some forums and the starters overclocking guide i dicided to write this to ask for some help to get some extra speed for my cpu My goal for this cpu without spending much $ is around 3.2 ghz (from 2.4ghz default speed). reading the "linderman" "if you are new to overclocking / read here for starters" guide i think i got all the information asked there to get some help from you masters well im missing the cpu temp... but i add it later probably tomorrow... for now is all i have and if u can help me i'll be very happy P.S. - im portuguese , so if u find some text not so well writen... excuse me... and tkx again Last edited by wallyveira; 02-24-2009 at 11:02 AM.

02-24-2009, 11:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,441 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed print out this manual and review the bios options http://www.asrock.com/mb/manual.asp?Model=G31M-GS&s=775 please give us your memory stick model numbers (use cpu-z to find this info ) <<<<free download what is the make and model number of your power supply __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

02-24-2009, 11:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
wallyveira Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8 OS: win xp sp2	Re: NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed k , tkx for helping me... im at work atm , so soon as i get home i check all that details , and tomorrow tell here... btw , i also have a OS question , what should i use: win xp pro sp3 or vista home edition? i will only touch in bios when i feel i can do it with min risk as you said on your post "im doing this for the adventure and to learn how things work tkx again!

02-24-2009, 12:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,441 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed xp uses less computer resources __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

02-25-2009, 04:10 AM	#5 (permalink)
wallyveira Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8 OS: win xp sp2	Re: NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed memories model nº power suply unit nº - 0804106998 after i used "OC TUNER" software that came with motherboard cd. this is under stress , after 15min of stress. after 20min doing nothing on it. Last edited by wallyveira; 02-25-2009 at 04:15 AM.

02-25-2009, 04:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
wallyveira Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8 OS: win xp sp2	Re: NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed after i tryed OC with "OC TUNER" , witch when i reboot the pc takes the oc changes back to normal. i changed the cpu frequency in bios to 12x 242mhz and got the cpu working at 2.900mhz stable (i think), temps stayed around 20ºC to 35ºC. also i tried to change the cpu voltage but i was not able to find that in the bios

02-25-2009, 07:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,441 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed by simply changing the FSB and the multiplier are you able to get stable stress test for one hour at 2.9ghz ? read your manual .............. I gave link >>>>>>>>> it will show you how to find the cpu voltage option __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

02-25-2009, 07:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
wallyveira Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8 OS: win xp sp2	Re: NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed at 2.9mhz he was stable for 9hrs, doing nothing just turned on... i have printed the guide u told me and i have read it , and after googling a bit for vcore voltage for my board , i found a video on youtube, a review, and they say that board doesn't aloud vcore voltage changes...

02-25-2009, 07:56 AM	#9 (permalink)
wallyveira Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8 OS: win xp sp2	Re: NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed the multiplier i didnt touch it yet and when i tried to get 3.2mhz he crashed when i tried to play f.e.a.r. 2... do you think i can get 3.2mhz without changing vcore voltage but changing the multiplier??

02-25-2009, 04:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,441 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed you will need voltage increase at the cpu to get above 2.9 ghz .............. I will look at your manual .......... I was sure there is a way to enter voltages increases you can for sure with that overclocking program you are using by selecting the "voltage" button __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

02-26-2009, 03:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
wallyveira Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8 OS: win xp sp2	Re: NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed yes , in that software i have a menu for voltage. the problem is that i only have: RAM voltage , vtt voltage , nb voltage and +1.5 voltage. in bios there are only the same voltage options...

02-26-2009, 07:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,441 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed maybe this guy will shed some light ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmbdT5LPGTU have you tried the latest bios ? youre not going to get a full featured overclocking settings with an economy board ....... thats why the P35 and P45 chipsets are soooo popular __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

02-26-2009, 07:27 AM	#13 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,441 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed this guy seems to be modding bios files to allow more options http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/lof...0505-1400.html he may be able to unlock your vcore setting ? __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

02-26-2009, 07:36 AM	#14 (permalink)
wallyveira Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 8 OS: win xp sp2	Re: NEWBY wants to get some extra cpu speed wow , tkx so very much for your interest about my issue ;) i'll give it a try and i tell u the results later (today i brought my pc to work :P)