Question about ram sdr-sdram pc133 vs. sdram pc133

Ash Witch · 04-13-2005, 12:09 PM

My Uncle asked me to format and reinstall his OS cause it was blue screening, lagging constantly even after adding an extra 256 megs of ram. He is running windows98se on a 600mhz mobo. I did as he asked only to find the problem is just as bad as b4 the complete format and clean install, updated component drivers etc....boot up time takes 4ever.
I have an old AMD 500mhz comp with only 192megs ram that boots 2x faster than his. Anyway after talking to him about how the format didn't seem to do much for the prob. he let me know the problem had gotten worse specifically after adding the newer ram. So I ran memtest etc. ram was good, I opened the case to to pop out ram for individual stick testing only to find one labled " sdram pc133" the other "sdr-sdram pc133". I think that the problem is maybe these 2 types of ram don't like each other on this board? My question basically is are these 2 sticks the same, the store owner who sold them to Uncle says there is no difference and that they are compatible on any board, as he rolls his eyes and mutters "women". Thanks all for any insight on this subject.

**YeeFam** · 04-13-2005, 02:54 PM

Here is a link:

• http://www.pcwatch.com/QB/memory/fil..._sdram_and.htm

And Welcome to TSF

**Sarkast** · 04-13-2005, 03:19 PM

If memtest doesnt find any errors then i'd run another program like the MS memory diagnostics - as theres a small chance one program finds something another doesnt. If that test comes out good aswell i really dont see a problem with the memory.
I cant say for sure where all the blue screens come from - however the slow bootime could mean that the harddrive is running in PIO mode not UDMA.

Try this and see if it helps:

http://www.helpwithwindows.com/windows98/tune-35.html

Ash Witch · 04-13-2005, 03:40 PM

... if it was ddr sdram it wouldn't fit in the slot...notches are in different places. Thanks for the suggestion that I check it though. Sarkast, I will check to see if DMA is enabled as I know the hard drive supports UDMA mode...it's my old 30gig backup drive

Will post and let you know, thanks for the feedback.

Ash Witch · 04-14-2005, 12:44 AM

Checked the dma mode and right as rain it wasn't marked, enabled it there and in bios. Comp is still slow as slugs to me, but probably only bcause I am used to my fast one. An interesting thing to note though is he has an HP All in One printer on his system too slogging up the works. I took my time researching how many entries of it in msconfig I could remove before it stopped working, I was able to bring resources from 63% free at boot with all printer entries to 82% resources free...and low and behold the printer\scanner still works without all the added boot up stuff...Yay!! I am happier now thanks guys.

**Sarkast** · 04-14-2005, 07:58 AM

I am glad i was able to help. If you have anymore problems in the future i hope you know where to go.

04-13-2005, 12:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ash Witch Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 6 OS: XP	Question about ram sdr-sdram pc133 vs. sdram pc133 My Uncle asked me to format and reinstall his OS cause it was blue screening, lagging constantly even after adding an extra 256 megs of ram. He is running windows98se on a 600mhz mobo. I did as he asked only to find the problem is just as bad as b4 the complete format and clean install, updated component drivers etc....boot up time takes 4ever. I have an old AMD 500mhz comp with only 192megs ram that boots 2x faster than his. Anyway after talking to him about how the format didn't seem to do much for the prob. he let me know the problem had gotten worse specifically after adding the newer ram. So I ran memtest etc. ram was good, I opened the case to to pop out ram for individual stick testing only to find one labled " sdram pc133" the other "sdr-sdram pc133". I think that the problem is maybe these 2 types of ram don't like each other on this board? My question basically is are these 2 sticks the same, the store owner who sold them to Uncle says there is no difference and that they are compatible on any board, as he rolls his eyes and mutters "women". Thanks all for any insight on this subject. __________________ May we all have the strength to help one another, the courage to continue to love and the wisdom to know right from wrong.

04-13-2005, 02:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
YeeFam Mac Tech, Alternative Computing Forums Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 254 OS: MAC OS X (Unix)	Could one be DDR SDRAM? Here is a link: • http://www.pcwatch.com/QB/memory/fil..._sdram_and.htm And Welcome to TSF

04-13-2005, 03:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sarkast TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NY Posts: 2,715 OS: WinXP	If memtest doesnt find any errors then i'd run another program like the MS memory diagnostics - as theres a small chance one program finds something another doesnt. If that test comes out good aswell i really dont see a problem with the memory. I cant say for sure where all the blue screens come from - however the slow bootime could mean that the harddrive is running in PIO mode not UDMA. Try this and see if it helps: http://www.helpwithwindows.com/windows98/tune-35.html __________________ P4 2.4@2.9 / XP-90 / Albatron PX865PE Pro V2.0 / Kingston Hyper-X 512MB Dual Channel CL2-2-2-5 / Geforce4 MX440x8 64MB / WD80GB 7200RPM 8MB / Thermaltake 420W PSU --> SEE IT ALL GLOW <-- MBM5 - SpeedFan - PSU Calculator - MemTest86 - ThrottleWatch

04-13-2005, 03:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ash Witch Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 6 OS: XP	Definately says sdr-sdram on chip ... if it was ddr sdram it wouldn't fit in the slot...notches are in different places. Thanks for the suggestion that I check it though. Sarkast, I will check to see if DMA is enabled as I know the hard drive supports UDMA mode...it's my old 30gig backup drive Will post and let you know, thanks for the feedback. __________________ May we all have the strength to help one another, the courage to continue to love and the wisdom to know right from wrong.

04-14-2005, 12:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ash Witch Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 6 OS: XP	OK boots faster now Checked the dma mode and right as rain it wasn't marked, enabled it there and in bios. Comp is still slow as slugs to me, but probably only bcause I am used to my fast one. An interesting thing to note though is he has an HP All in One printer on his system too slogging up the works. I took my time researching how many entries of it in msconfig I could remove before it stopped working, I was able to bring resources from 63% free at boot with all printer entries to 82% resources free...and low and behold the printer\scanner still works without all the added boot up stuff...Yay!! I am happier now thanks guys. __________________ May we all have the strength to help one another, the courage to continue to love and the wisdom to know right from wrong.

04-14-2005, 07:58 AM	#6 (permalink)
Sarkast TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NY Posts: 2,715 OS: WinXP	I am glad i was able to help. If you have anymore problems in the future i hope you know where to go. __________________ P4 2.4@2.9 / XP-90 / Albatron PX865PE Pro V2.0 / Kingston Hyper-X 512MB Dual Channel CL2-2-2-5 / Geforce4 MX440x8 64MB / WD80GB 7200RPM 8MB / Thermaltake 420W PSU --> SEE IT ALL GLOW <-- MBM5 - SpeedFan - PSU Calculator - MemTest86 - ThrottleWatch