New Comp

daamon_vexion · 08-18-2006, 11:55 AM

Hey guys, i am looking at building myself the "ultimate" gaming comp looking at going AMD if only cus i can

the specs i want are 4gigs ram, 2.9 ghz processor, 1g video, and 500gig hdd, not real heavy into memory, already have a tb drive.. any suggestions on what i should get exactly?

sinclair_tm · 08-18-2006, 01:19 PM

has you allreaady looked at all the other threads of this nature?

Tumbleweed36 · 08-18-2006, 02:32 PM

Hi,

In addition to looking at other threads of this nature, it might be a good idea to give us some idea on the budget you intent to stay within. That we it is possible to stay within a framework initially instead of suggesting something that is not within budget and having to redo it.

ebackhus · 08-18-2006, 03:44 PM

I suggest you only go with 3GB of RAM as Windows can't really use any more than that.

Athlon64 5000+ to start

2x GeForce 7950's in SLI...

daamon_vexion · 08-19-2006, 04:47 AM

ya, forgot the budget part.... there isnt really one.. probably will be 4k us dollars. if i need to spend a little more then fine. and thanks for the advice on the RAM, but i was planning on the fact that i dont want to improve my comp every two months when a new game comes out. also not a big audiophile so not two worried about sound.. just want to be able to hook up a surround sound.
right now am looking at a WD 500gb hdd and the GeForce GTX video card. not sure on what case or what mobo to get

**Bartender** · 08-19-2006, 10:37 AM

Google Sharky Extreme and take a look at their Gaming PC recommendations...they build three levels; Budget, Value, and Extreme PC. Sometimes the info is a month or two old but still they have some good ideas and explain why they chose what they did. Fun and educational to read.

Also, Anandtech has similar guides under their "Guides" tab. However, I just went there and checked - nothing recent. You never know when they'll add something new! Are you set on using AMD? There oughta be some interesting articles soon based on the new Core 2's...

daamon_vexion · 08-19-2006, 11:00 AM

not really set on the AMD, but i am going off of my experience with the intel, which hasnt been altogether awesome.. wanting to try something new. right now i am using an intel Cor Duo... and it is pretty awesome.. but i do have to say my gb of ram that i have isnt enough for what i want to do

daamon_vexion · 08-19-2006, 11:13 AM

hehe might help if i clarify what i am doing. I go to Germany soon, and i want to take with me a desktop that i can use over there and not have to worry about upgrading it while i am over there. I play some pretty extensive games (battlefield 2, WoW, everquest..) and i also use auto cad. Like i said earlier, budget isnt really a question, however, i am also not wanting to have a computer that is worth more than my car ;) i might upgrade to vista if i see that it can do more for me than XP... umm anything else you want to know about my plans?

**Bartender** · 08-19-2006, 12:51 PM

The folks testing out pre-releases of Vista seem to be pretty much underwhelmed...I think your money would be better spent on cool hardware.

It doesn't appear that Core Duo threatened AMD's desktop CPU supremacy, but the reviewers are going ga-ga over Core 2 Duo. Have you read the latest issue of MaximumPC? They built their annual Dream Machine around the fastest Core 2 Duo they could get their hands on. Worth reading.

Anandtech also wrote up a review that you might want to read before spending big bucks on an AMD chip. I'll borrow one paragraph from the "Conclusions":

"Compared to AMD's Athlon 64 X2 the situation gets a lot more competitive, but AMD still doesn't stand a chance. The Core 2 Extreme X6800, Core 2 Duo E6700 and E6600 were pretty consistently in the top 3 or 4 spots in each benchmark, with the E6600 offering better performance than AMD's FX-62 flagship in the vast majority of benchmarks. Another way of looking at it is that Intel's Core 2 Duo E6600 is effectively a $316 FX-62, which doesn't sound bad at all."

dai · 08-19-2006, 01:06 PM

have a look at what they are putting into these
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/...ans/index.html
http://www.viciouspc.com/lord.html
http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;177969690

**linderman** · 08-19-2006, 06:03 PM

I would have to say with you budget you could build HAL (old movie about a living computer) hhehehehehehh

now on to serious:

without the nasty old budget noose hanging on our necks >>>> what a relief for a change! I would dare say for $2500.00 you could build an ultra extreme gaming rig

Asus motherboard
http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?m...1=3&l2=11&l3=0
& Intel conroe E6600
Silverstone 750 watt PSU
High Performance memory from OCZ, Crucial, Corsair two one gig sticks
pair of Nvidea 7900 video cards or ATI 1900 crossfire cards
Antec P180 Case

I would be a nervous wreck shipping this rig to Germany!!!!! I would defintely break it down into component form !!

daamon_vexion · 08-19-2006, 09:27 PM

so you say i should stick with 2gig RAM? will that be enough to last me for 2 years? or should i go with 3 or more?

**linderman** · 08-20-2006, 07:45 AM

well her is the catch >>>> in order to keep a system runnign in dual channel you need to keep memory installed in match pairs of all the same spec

I personally would stick with 2 gigs then if two years from now you change to Microsoft Vista then add 2 more gigs but as long as you are using Win XP Pro I would stay with 2 gigs

daamon_vexion · 08-20-2006, 08:34 AM

ok makes sense, also, right now which video card setup is considered most stable.. now i know i am causing a war, but is the ATI crossfire setup as good as that quad Nvidia? 1gig of video is pretty tempting... although not sure if i need that much. thanks

daamon_vexion · 08-31-2006, 07:08 AM

this is what i put together on ibuypower.com what do you guys think? anything i should change?

Case ( Raidmax Ninja-918 ATX Mid-tower Case w/420W Power Supply Black )
Case Lighting ( Cold Cathode Neon Light Blue )
Power Supply ( Thermaltake Purepower 680 Watt Power Supply [SLI Ready] )
Processor ( Intel Core 2 Extreme Processor X6800 (2x 2.93GHz/4MB L2 Cache/1066FSB) )
Free Software/Game ( Free Game - [Hero] )
Free Software/Game ( Free Game - [World of Warcraft] with purchase of any INTEL based systems or Mobile notebook )
Processor Cooling ( [New !!!] iBUYPOWER Liquid CPU Cooling Fan System Kit --- [for INTEL CPU] )
Motherboard ( Intel D975XBX Motherboard 975Xpress Chipset w/7.1 HD Audio, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394, 3x PCI-E MB )
Memory ( 2048MB [1024MB X2] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Corsair XMS2 Xtreme w/Heat Spreader )
Video Card ( ATI Radeon X1600XT 256MB w/DVI + TV Out Video )
Hard Drive ( Gaming HARD DRIVES [Serial ATA-150, 10,000 RPM] WD Raptor WD740GD 74.0GB 8M Cache Hard Drive )
2nd Hard Drive ( None )
Raid Controller ( None )
Raid Configuration ( None )
CD/DVD Drive ( [Lightscribe Technology] 16X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Beige )
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] 16X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Speaker System ( [Silver/Black] Logitech Z-5500 Dolby Digital + DTS 5.1 Surround Speakers + Subwoofer )
Fax Modem ( None )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Floppy Drive ( None )
Monitor ( LCD Monitor ViewSonic 17" VA712B TFT LCD Monitor [Response:8 ms; Color: Black] )
2nd Monitor ( LCD Monitor ViewSonic 17" VA712B TFT LCD Monitor [Response:8 ms; Color: Black] )
Keyboard ( [New !!!] Saitek PZ30AU Eclipse Gaming Keyboard )
Mouse ( [New !!!] Razer Diamondback Plasma Edition Gaming Mouse )
Meter Display ( Thermal Temperature LCD Display Black )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer Black )
Operation System ( [Special !!] MS Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 )
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner ( [Special !!] MS Media Center Remote Control and Receiver )
Case Round Cable ( Rounded Cables for Floppy/HDD/CD/DVD/CD-RW/DVD-RW Drives )
Case Round Cable ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower )
IEEE-1394 Fire Wire Card ( None )
USB Flash Drive ( None )
TV Tuner ( None )
Video Camera ( None )
Headset ( None )
Power Protection ( ** iBUYPOWER Recommended ** Opti-UPS SS1200-AVR Mighty Voltage Regulator )
Printer ( None )
Printer Cable ( None )
Wireless Network Adapter ( [Special !!!] Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter )
Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush, Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

**TheMatt** · 08-31-2006, 09:49 PM

I would stay away from thermaltake (not the best PSUs). Here is a good one. Its a little extra money, but its a worthwile investment.

FSP Group (Fortron Source) FX700-GLN ATX12V/ EPS12V 700W Quad. SLi Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104015

You can also get an X1800XT with 256 bit memory (and faster) for a little more

SAPPHIRE 100154 Radeon X1800XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 CrossFire Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102007
If out of stock:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814102007R

Perhaps you can find those on ibuypower (sorry, I couldn't find them).

**linderman** · 09-01-2006, 04:42 AM

Matt is right ! avoid the Thermaltake PSU's the one he linked to you is a real power horse !

daamon_vexion · 09-01-2006, 08:02 AM

ok, i can avoid that, also, what do you suggest for a vid card? i want to be able to play any game out really

**TheMatt** · 09-01-2006, 01:33 PM

Get an X850XT if you don't want to spend the extra money on the X1800XT

**forcifer** · 09-01-2006, 03:44 PM

hmm. id get a 7900GT tbh. they are pretty cheap (270 for evga). for PSU, antec, enermax, and pc power and cooling. fsp is also very good

08-18-2006, 11:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
daamon_vexion Resident Soldier Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Iraq (temp) Wyoming Posts: 560 OS: Windows XP Media Center My System	New Comp Hey guys, i am looking at building myself the "ultimate" gaming comp looking at going AMD if only cus i can the specs i want are 4gigs ram, 2.9 ghz processor, 1g video, and 500gig hdd, not real heavy into memory, already have a tb drive.. any suggestions on what i should get exactly? __________________ *And the Infantry Sayeth unto the Lord "Thou hast made us the Queen of battle, and Artillery the King, surely thou knowest what the King does to his Queen?" And the Lord replyeth, "Right On!"*

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08-19-2006, 04:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
daamon_vexion Resident Soldier Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Iraq (temp) Wyoming Posts: 560 OS: Windows XP Media Center My System	ya, forgot the budget part.... there isnt really one.. probably will be 4k us dollars. if i need to spend a little more then fine. and thanks for the advice on the RAM, but i was planning on the fact that i dont want to improve my comp every two months when a new game comes out. also not a big audiophile so not two worried about sound.. just want to be able to hook up a surround sound. right now am looking at a WD 500gb hdd and the GeForce GTX video card. not sure on what case or what mobo to get __________________ *And the Infantry Sayeth unto the Lord "Thou hast made us the Queen of battle, and Artillery the King, surely thou knowest what the King does to his Queen?" And the Lord replyeth, "Right On!"*

08-19-2006, 11:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
daamon_vexion Resident Soldier Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Iraq (temp) Wyoming Posts: 560 OS: Windows XP Media Center My System	not really set on the AMD, but i am going off of my experience with the intel, which hasnt been altogether awesome.. wanting to try something new. right now i am using an intel Cor Duo... and it is pretty awesome.. but i do have to say my gb of ram that i have isnt enough for what i want to do __________________ *And the Infantry Sayeth unto the Lord "Thou hast made us the Queen of battle, and Artillery the King, surely thou knowest what the King does to his Queen?" And the Lord replyeth, "Right On!"*

08-19-2006, 10:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
Bartender Mentally divergent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chehalis, WA, USA Posts: 1,285 OS: W2K, Ubuntu 8.04	Google Sharky Extreme and take a look at their Gaming PC recommendations...they build three levels; Budget, Value, and Extreme PC. Sometimes the info is a month or two old but still they have some good ideas and explain why they chose what they did. Fun and educational to read. Also, Anandtech has similar guides under their "Guides" tab. However, I just went there and checked - nothing recent. You never know when they'll add something new! Are you set on using AMD? There oughta be some interesting articles soon based on the new Core 2's...

08-19-2006, 11:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
daamon_vexion Resident Soldier Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Iraq (temp) Wyoming Posts: 560 OS: Windows XP Media Center My System	hehe might help if i clarify what i am doing. I go to Germany soon, and i want to take with me a desktop that i can use over there and not have to worry about upgrading it while i am over there. I play some pretty extensive games (battlefield 2, WoW, everquest..) and i also use auto cad. Like i said earlier, budget isnt really a question, however, i am also not wanting to have a computer that is worth more than my car ;) i might upgrade to vista if i see that it can do more for me than XP... umm anything else you want to know about my plans? __________________ *And the Infantry Sayeth unto the Lord "Thou hast made us the Queen of battle, and Artillery the King, surely thou knowest what the King does to his Queen?" And the Lord replyeth, "Right On!"*

08-19-2006, 12:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bartender Mentally divergent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chehalis, WA, USA Posts: 1,285 OS: W2K, Ubuntu 8.04	The folks testing out pre-releases of Vista seem to be pretty much underwhelmed...I think your money would be better spent on cool hardware. It doesn't appear that Core Duo threatened AMD's desktop CPU supremacy, but the reviewers are going ga-ga over Core 2 Duo. Have you read the latest issue of MaximumPC? They built their annual Dream Machine around the fastest Core 2 Duo they could get their hands on. Worth reading. Anandtech also wrote up a review that you might want to read before spending big bucks on an AMD chip. I'll borrow one paragraph from the "Conclusions": "Compared to AMD's Athlon 64 X2 the situation gets a lot more competitive, but AMD still doesn't stand a chance. The Core 2 Extreme X6800, Core 2 Duo E6700 and E6600 were pretty consistently in the top 3 or 4 spots in each benchmark, with the E6600 offering better performance than AMD's FX-62 flagship in the vast majority of benchmarks. Another way of looking at it is that Intel's Core 2 Duo E6600 is effectively a $316 FX-62, which doesn't sound bad at all."

08-19-2006, 01:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,703 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	have a look at what they are putting into these http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/...ans/index.html http://www.viciouspc.com/lord.html http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;177969690 __________________

08-19-2006, 06:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,441 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	I would have to say with you budget you could build HAL (old movie about a living computer) hhehehehehehh now on to serious: without the nasty old budget noose hanging on our necks >>>> what a relief for a change! I would dare say for $2500.00 you could build an ultra extreme gaming rig Asus motherboard http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?m...1=3&l2=11&l3=0 & Intel conroe E6600 Silverstone 750 watt PSU High Performance memory from OCZ, Crucial, Corsair two one gig sticks pair of Nvidea 7900 video cards or ATI 1900 crossfire cards Antec P180 Case I would be a nervous wreck shipping this rig to Germany!!!!! I would defintely break it down into component form !! __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial Last edited by linderman; 08-19-2006 at 06:14 PM.

08-19-2006, 09:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
daamon_vexion Resident Soldier Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Iraq (temp) Wyoming Posts: 560 OS: Windows XP Media Center My System	so you say i should stick with 2gig RAM? will that be enough to last me for 2 years? or should i go with 3 or more? __________________ *And the Infantry Sayeth unto the Lord "Thou hast made us the Queen of battle, and Artillery the King, surely thou knowest what the King does to his Queen?" And the Lord replyeth, "Right On!"*

08-20-2006, 07:45 AM	#13 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,441 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	well her is the catch >>>> in order to keep a system runnign in dual channel you need to keep memory installed in match pairs of all the same spec I personally would stick with 2 gigs then if two years from now you change to Microsoft Vista then add 2 more gigs but as long as you are using Win XP Pro I would stay with 2 gigs __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

08-20-2006, 08:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
daamon_vexion Resident Soldier Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Iraq (temp) Wyoming Posts: 560 OS: Windows XP Media Center My System	ok makes sense, also, right now which video card setup is considered most stable.. now i know i am causing a war, but is the ATI crossfire setup as good as that quad Nvidia? 1gig of video is pretty tempting... although not sure if i need that much. thanks __________________ *And the Infantry Sayeth unto the Lord "Thou hast made us the Queen of battle, and Artillery the King, surely thou knowest what the King does to his Queen?" And the Lord replyeth, "Right On!"*

08-31-2006, 07:08 AM	#15 (permalink)
daamon_vexion Resident Soldier Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Iraq (temp) Wyoming Posts: 560 OS: Windows XP Media Center My System	i buy power this is what i put together on ibuypower.com what do you guys think? anything i should change? Case ( Raidmax Ninja-918 ATX Mid-tower Case w/420W Power Supply Black ) Case Lighting ( Cold Cathode Neon Light Blue ) Power Supply ( Thermaltake Purepower 680 Watt Power Supply [SLI Ready] ) Processor ( Intel Core 2 Extreme Processor X6800 (2x 2.93GHz/4MB L2 Cache/1066FSB) ) Free Software/Game ( Free Game - [Hero] ) Free Software/Game ( Free Game - [World of Warcraft] with purchase of any INTEL based systems or Mobile notebook ) Processor Cooling ( [New !!!] iBUYPOWER Liquid CPU Cooling Fan System Kit --- [for INTEL CPU] ) Motherboard ( Intel D975XBX Motherboard 975Xpress Chipset w/7.1 HD Audio, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394, 3x PCI-E MB ) Memory ( 2048MB [1024MB X2] DDR2-800 PC6400 Memory Module Corsair XMS2 Xtreme w/Heat Spreader ) Video Card ( ATI Radeon X1600XT 256MB w/DVI + TV Out Video ) Hard Drive ( Gaming HARD DRIVES [Serial ATA-150, 10,000 RPM] WD Raptor WD740GD 74.0GB 8M Cache Hard Drive ) 2nd Hard Drive ( None ) Raid Controller ( None ) Raid Configuration ( None ) CD/DVD Drive ( [Lightscribe Technology] 16X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Beige ) CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [ Special !!! ] 16X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black ) Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard ) Speaker System ( [Silver/Black] Logitech Z-5500 Dolby Digital + DTS 5.1 Surround Speakers + Subwoofer ) Fax Modem ( None ) Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) ) Floppy Drive ( None ) Monitor ( LCD Monitor ViewSonic 17" VA712B TFT LCD Monitor [Response:8 ms; Color: Black] ) 2nd Monitor ( LCD Monitor ViewSonic 17" VA712B TFT LCD Monitor [Response:8 ms; Color: Black] ) Keyboard ( [New !!!] Saitek PZ30AU Eclipse Gaming Keyboard ) Mouse ( [New !!!] Razer Diamondback Plasma Edition Gaming Mouse ) Meter Display ( Thermal Temperature LCD Display Black ) Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer Black ) Operation System ( [Special !!] MS Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 ) Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner ( [Special !!] MS Media Center Remote Control and Receiver ) Case Round Cable ( Rounded Cables for Floppy/HDD/CD/DVD/CD-RW/DVD-RW Drives ) Case Round Cable ( Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower ) IEEE-1394 Fire Wire Card ( None ) USB Flash Drive ( None ) TV Tuner ( None ) Video Camera ( None ) Headset ( None ) Power Protection ( * iBUYPOWER Recommended Opti-UPS SS1200-AVR Mighty Voltage Regulator ) Printer ( None ) Printer Cable ( None ) Wireless Network Adapter ( [Special !!!] Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps PCI Adapter ) Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support ) Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush, Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days ) __________________ And the Infantry Sayeth unto the Lord "Thou hast made us the Queen of battle, and Artillery the King, surely thou knowest what the King does to his Queen?" And the Lord replyeth, "Right On!"**

08-31-2006, 09:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	I would stay away from thermaltake (not the best PSUs). Here is a good one. Its a little extra money, but its a worthwile investment. FSP Group (Fortron Source) FX700-GLN ATX12V/ EPS12V 700W Quad. SLi Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104015 You can also get an X1800XT with 256 bit memory (and faster) for a little more SAPPHIRE 100154 Radeon X1800XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 CrossFire Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102007 If out of stock:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814102007R Perhaps you can find those on ibuypower (sorry, I couldn't find them). __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides Last edited by TheMatt; 08-31-2006 at 09:56 PM.

09-01-2006, 04:42 AM	#17 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,441 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Matt is right ! avoid the Thermaltake PSU's the one he linked to you is a real power horse ! __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

09-01-2006, 08:02 AM	#18 (permalink)
daamon_vexion Resident Soldier Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Iraq (temp) Wyoming Posts: 560 OS: Windows XP Media Center My System	ok, i can avoid that, also, what do you suggest for a vid card? i want to be able to play any game out really __________________ *And the Infantry Sayeth unto the Lord "Thou hast made us the Queen of battle, and Artillery the King, surely thou knowest what the King does to his Queen?" And the Lord replyeth, "Right On!"*

09-01-2006, 01:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Get an X850XT if you don't want to spend the extra money on the X1800XT __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides

09-01-2006, 03:44 PM	#20 (permalink)
forcifer ole' Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,631 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	hmm. id get a 7900GT tbh. they are pretty cheap (270 for evga). for PSU, antec, enermax, and pc power and cooling. fsp is also very good __________________