Are these 2 hardware devices compatible? (mb and cpu)

KingofLodis · 07-14-2006, 01:22 AM

A8N-SLI Deluxe and a AMD 64 X2 3800+ Dual Core Processor?

Indoril Nerevar · 07-14-2006, 03:00 AM

What socket type is the CPU (939 or AM2)? If it's 939, then it is compatible with that motherboard, but if it's AM2, it's not.

KingofLodis · 07-14-2006, 04:23 PM

There are 2 different socket types to choose from I guess =P 939 and AM2, so I guess I'll just see if I can get the 939 ones... =P Thank you Indoril

**Ralck** · 07-14-2006, 04:32 PM

Do you already have this motherboard, or are you buying it as well?
If you are buying it also, then I'd suggest looking at some of the AM2 boards instead, as that gives you an upgrade path. If you already have this board, then the socket 939 version of that chip will fit and is a great chip!

Indoril Nerevar · 07-14-2006, 05:25 PM

Ralck has given good advice: the socket AM2 boards and CPU's are newer and better than their 939 counterparts, and will be around for longer.

The AM2 version of that board is the M2N-SLI Deluxe.
Here are some of the AM2 CPU's, including the AM2 version of the X2 3800+.

KingofLodis · 07-14-2006, 08:31 PM

Is there a difference in the performance?

EDIT: Oh, and money is the issue...

And yes, I plan on buying these things.

EDIT #2:

Are all these items compatable with that Motherboard?

AMD 64 X2 3800+ Dual Core Processor
Coolermaster Case w/ 1 120mm fan
Antec Smart Power 500W PSU, 2 fans
1GB of Corsair XMS RAM w/ Heat Spreader
EVGA Geforce 7300GS Vid Card w/ 256MB RAM
Seagate Barracuda SATA 80GB Hard drive

Mostly the video card is what I'm worried about...

I'm getting all these parts for a whole new computer because the one I have is having issues with a lot of the games and stuff that I play...

If you wanna help out with this issue, I'd be more than happy to post a link :) If you'd like to save me all the money ;D

KingofLodis · 07-14-2006, 09:20 PM

Sorry for the double post, but I can't edit it now...

Is an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro, 256 mb, better than the video card above? Or is the video card above better?

I'm going for a somewhat decent gaming computer... =\

Any suggestions?

**TheMatt** · 07-14-2006, 09:49 PM

Socket AM2 has support for DDR2, so you will see a slight improvement, but not too much. But remember, socket AM2 is the "new thing", so it will be more expensive than socket 939.

In your situation, I would actually lean towards socket 939, just to save money. The performance difference really isn't worth it. Unless you are trying to future proof your machine.

Just remember to match the sockets!

If you want somewhat of a gaming computer, I would instead go for a Radeon X800 or possibly X850. The 9600 Pro is an older card, (and actually won't fit into the M2N or the A8N because they don't have AGP slots), and while the 7300GS is new and uses PCIe, its a wimpy gaming card. The X800 is inexpensive and will handle most games on middle settings. The X850, especially the X850XT, one of my favorate cards, could do even better.

Here is an inexpensive card that will work on your motherboard:
POWERCOLOR Radeon X800GTO 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131007

KingofLodis · 07-15-2006, 01:08 AM

I'm not looking for a card that's similar to the one I have now, I'm looking to get a whole new computer sorta deal... PCI-Express of course... I'm planning on throwing out my Radeon 9600 Pro or selling it or something... The other Radeon products... Are they ATI? Cause my friend is bugging me about how I shouldn't get ATI >_>

I think Radeon is cursed with me or something... So is "POWERCOLOR Radeon X800GTO 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16" better than my Radeon 9600 Pro, 256mb? >_> For a fact? And it won't be defective or anything, and the parts don't stink like my friend says ATI does xD?

EDIT: Is your X850XT better than the "POWERCOLOR Radeon X800GTO 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16"? How much is it, or can you post a link to it?

Indoril Nerevar · 07-15-2006, 02:42 AM

If you'd like us to try to help with your games problems, post a thread in the Games forum, with your full system specs, a description of the problems, and which games they happen with.

ATI cards don't "stink" at all. There are a lot of people who will say that NVIDIA make much better video cards, but there are just as many people who say ATI cards are better. Personally, I prefer to use NVIDIA, but ATI cards are fine.

The X850XT is better than the X800GTO, and both cards are better than the 9600 Pro. You can have a look at some X850XT's here.

**linderman** · 07-15-2006, 03:53 AM

when the day comes that Nvidia ( a very good maker of video cards) rules the roost for as long as ATI has then I will say they are equal!

There is no doubt that Nvidia is giving them a run for their money, but ATI is getting left out of nothing for sure The battle for video card dominance reminds me closely of the Intel vs AMD match-up >>>> AMD will be playing catch-up very soon when the Conroe cpu hits the streets

I personally would not have a preference buying a card from either of these two makers >>>> get as much card as your budget will allow and dont worry about brand name

KingofLodis · 07-16-2006, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indoril Nerevar

If you'd like us to try to help with your games problems, post a thread in the Games forum, with your full system specs, a description of the problems, and which games they happen with.

ATI cards don't "stink" at all. There are a lot of people who will say that NVIDIA make much better video cards, but there are just as many people who say ATI cards are better. Personally, I prefer to use NVIDIA, but ATI cards are fine.

The X850XT is better than the X800GTO, and both cards are better than the 9600 Pro. You can have a look at some X850XT's here.

Well, my problem isn't necessarily with a single game... I don't think? >_> It's happened with other games before?

Is the X800GTO significantly better than the Radeon 9600 Pro, or just slightly?

Why do people choose to dislike ATI or NVidia at all?... I'd like to know that part =P

Indoril Nerevar · 07-16-2006, 09:15 PM

The ATI/NVIDIA thing is just the "my card's better than yours" thing gone a bit further - to "my brand's better than yours". It's all silly, IMHO.

The X800GTO is significantly better than the 9600 Pro. I'll leave the details to the ATI fans, but it will definitely give better performance.

As I said, if you would like us to help with your games problems, post them in the Games forum.

**Ralck** · 07-16-2006, 11:34 PM

As my teammates have stated above, both brands of card are equal. Sure, you can't compare your 9600 with the latest nVidia card, because obviously the new card will work better, but comparing the same spec cards from both companies (x1600 vx 7600) shows that they are very competitive.

I own several cards from each company and they all work great. My only annoyance with my ATi cards is that they have pretty poor Linux drivers, but since your building a gaming rig, I don't think you'll be using Linux on this machine.

07-14-2006, 01:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
KingofLodis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 211 OS: Windows 2000 Pro	Are these 2 hardware devices compatible? (mb and cpu) A8N-SLI Deluxe and a AMD 64 X2 3800+ Dual Core Processor?

07-14-2006, 03:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
Indoril Nerevar Manager, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,007 OS: Windows 7 RC 64-bit My System	What socket type is the CPU (939 or AM2)? If it's 939, then it is compatible with that motherboard, but if it's AM2, it's not. __________________ Donating to the forum keeps TSF free for all. • Common PC Game Issues • Common Installation Issues • Posting System Specs • Power Supply Information • • NVIDIA Drivers • ATI Drivers • Thermal Paste Guide • System Requirements Lab • YouGamers Game-o-Meter • • Everest • Prime95 • DirectX • AMD Drivers • Memtest86 • SensorsView • Driver Cleaner • I do not give help via PM. Please post your question on the forum.

07-14-2006, 04:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ralck TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,454 OS: 98SE/XP PRO/FC4 My System	Do you already have this motherboard, or are you buying it as well? If you are buying it also, then I'd suggest looking at some of the AM2 boards instead, as that gives you an upgrade path. If you already have this board, then the socket 939 version of that chip will fit and is a great chip! __________________ Power Supply Info Everyone Should Read! How to Post Your System Specs

07-14-2006, 05:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Indoril Nerevar Manager, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,007 OS: Windows 7 RC 64-bit My System	Ralck has given good advice: the socket AM2 boards and CPU's are newer and better than their 939 counterparts, and will be around for longer. The AM2 version of that board is the M2N-SLI Deluxe. Here are some of the AM2 CPU's, including the AM2 version of the X2 3800+. __________________ Donating to the forum keeps TSF free for all. • Common PC Game Issues • Common Installation Issues • Posting System Specs • Power Supply Information • • NVIDIA Drivers • ATI Drivers • Thermal Paste Guide • System Requirements Lab • YouGamers Game-o-Meter • • Everest • Prime95 • DirectX • AMD Drivers • Memtest86 • SensorsView • Driver Cleaner • I do not give help via PM. Please post your question on the forum.

07-14-2006, 08:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
KingofLodis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 211 OS: Windows 2000 Pro	Is there a difference in the performance? EDIT: Oh, and money is the issue... And yes, I plan on buying these things. EDIT #2: Are all these items compatable with that Motherboard? AMD 64 X2 3800+ Dual Core Processor Coolermaster Case w/ 1 120mm fan Antec Smart Power 500W PSU, 2 fans 1GB of Corsair XMS RAM w/ Heat Spreader EVGA Geforce 7300GS Vid Card w/ 256MB RAM Seagate Barracuda SATA 80GB Hard drive Mostly the video card is what I'm worried about... I'm getting all these parts for a whole new computer because the one I have is having issues with a lot of the games and stuff that I play... If you wanna help out with this issue, I'd be more than happy to post a link :) If you'd like to save me all the money ;D Last edited by KingofLodis; 07-14-2006 at 08:40 PM.

07-14-2006, 04:23 PM	#3 (permalink)
KingofLodis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 211 OS: Windows 2000 Pro	There are 2 different socket types to choose from I guess =P 939 and AM2, so I guess I'll just see if I can get the 939 ones... =P Thank you Indoril

07-14-2006, 09:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
KingofLodis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 211 OS: Windows 2000 Pro	Sorry for the double post, but I can't edit it now... Is an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro, 256 mb, better than the video card above? Or is the video card above better? I'm going for a somewhat decent gaming computer... =\ Any suggestions? Last edited by KingofLodis; 07-14-2006 at 09:22 PM.

07-14-2006, 09:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
TheMatt TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 13,701 OS: Win 3.1, 98, NT 4.0, XP Debian 4.0, Kubuntu 6.06 My System Blog Entries: 3	Socket AM2 has support for DDR2, so you will see a slight improvement, but not too much. But remember, socket AM2 is the "new thing", so it will be more expensive than socket 939. In your situation, I would actually lean towards socket 939, just to save money. The performance difference really isn't worth it. Unless you are trying to future proof your machine. Just remember to match the sockets! If you want somewhat of a gaming computer, I would instead go for a Radeon X800 or possibly X850. The 9600 Pro is an older card, (and actually won't fit into the M2N or the A8N because they don't have AGP slots), and while the 7300GS is new and uses PCIe, its a wimpy gaming card. The X800 is inexpensive and will handle most games on middle settings. The X850, especially the X850XT, one of my favorate cards, could do even better. Here is an inexpensive card that will work on your motherboard: POWERCOLOR Radeon X800GTO 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814131007 __________________ - Matt M - KB1OSC - Folding@Home 85015 [url="http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/"] If TSF has helped you, please consider donating. If I have stopped responding to a thread, feel free to send me a PM with a link to the thread. It is advisable to subscribe to threads so you will receive updates when replies are posted. You can subscribe to threads from the "Thread Tools" Menu. »Memtest86 »Prime95 »UBCD »SpeedFan »NHC Personal »Everest »Sandra »PC Wizard »RivaTuner »ATi Tool Click here for Useful Articles and Guides Last edited by TheMatt; 07-14-2006 at 09:56 PM.

07-15-2006, 01:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
KingofLodis Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 211 OS: Windows 2000 Pro	I'm not looking for a card that's similar to the one I have now, I'm looking to get a whole new computer sorta deal... PCI-Express of course... I'm planning on throwing out my Radeon 9600 Pro or selling it or something... The other Radeon products... Are they ATI? Cause my friend is bugging me about how I shouldn't get ATI >_> I think Radeon is cursed with me or something... So is "POWERCOLOR Radeon X800GTO 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16" better than my Radeon 9600 Pro, 256mb? >_> For a fact? And it won't be defective or anything, and the parts don't stink like my friend says ATI does xD? EDIT: Is your X850XT better than the "POWERCOLOR Radeon X800GTO 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16"? How much is it, or can you post a link to it? Last edited by KingofLodis; 07-15-2006 at 01:11 AM.

07-15-2006, 02:42 AM	#10 (permalink)
Indoril Nerevar Manager, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,007 OS: Windows 7 RC 64-bit My System	If you'd like us to try to help with your games problems, post a thread in the Games forum, with your full system specs, a description of the problems, and which games they happen with. ATI cards don't "stink" at all. There are a lot of people who will say that NVIDIA make much better video cards, but there are just as many people who say ATI cards are better. Personally, I prefer to use NVIDIA, but ATI cards are fine. The X850XT is better than the X800GTO, and both cards are better than the 9600 Pro. You can have a look at some X850XT's here. __________________ Donating to the forum keeps TSF free for all. • Common PC Game Issues • Common Installation Issues • Posting System Specs • Power Supply Information • • NVIDIA Drivers • ATI Drivers • Thermal Paste Guide • System Requirements Lab • YouGamers Game-o-Meter • • Everest • Prime95 • DirectX • AMD Drivers • Memtest86 • SensorsView • Driver Cleaner • I do not give help via PM. Please post your question on the forum.

07-15-2006, 03:53 AM	#11 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,433 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	when the day comes that Nvidia ( a very good maker of video cards) rules the roost for as long as ATI has then I will say they are equal! There is no doubt that Nvidia is giving them a run for their money, but ATI is getting left out of nothing for sure The battle for video card dominance reminds me closely of the Intel vs AMD match-up >>>> AMD will be playing catch-up very soon when the Conroe cpu hits the streets I personally would not have a preference buying a card from either of these two makers >>>> get as much card as your budget will allow and dont worry about brand name __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial Last edited by linderman; 07-15-2006 at 03:56 AM.

07-16-2006, 09:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
Indoril Nerevar Manager, Games Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 5,007 OS: Windows 7 RC 64-bit My System	The ATI/NVIDIA thing is just the "my card's better than yours" thing gone a bit further - to "my brand's better than yours". It's all silly, IMHO. The X800GTO is significantly better than the 9600 Pro. I'll leave the details to the ATI fans, but it will definitely give better performance. As I said, if you would like us to help with your games problems, post them in the Games forum. __________________ Donating to the forum keeps TSF free for all. • Common PC Game Issues • Common Installation Issues • Posting System Specs • Power Supply Information • • NVIDIA Drivers • ATI Drivers • Thermal Paste Guide • System Requirements Lab • YouGamers Game-o-Meter • • Everest • Prime95 • DirectX • AMD Drivers • Memtest86 • SensorsView • Driver Cleaner • I do not give help via PM. Please post your question on the forum.

07-16-2006, 11:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
Ralck TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,454 OS: 98SE/XP PRO/FC4 My System	As my teammates have stated above, both brands of card are equal. Sure, you can't compare your 9600 with the latest nVidia card, because obviously the new card will work better, but comparing the same spec cards from both companies (x1600 vx 7600) shows that they are very competitive. I own several cards from each company and they all work great. My only annoyance with my ATi cards is that they have pretty poor Linux drivers, but since your building a gaming rig, I don't think you'll be using Linux on this machine. __________________ Power Supply Info Everyone Should Read! How to Post Your System Specs