Performance troubles on clean format/install of xp

Starmonger · 04-11-2006, 03:10 PM

I have recently bought a new motherboard and hard drive, and set everything up. However theres something bad going on, it seems that simple tasks will hogg cpu, such as resising a picture file (this could take up to 50% usuage just by changing the size over and over). I have tested on 4 games (black and white 2, eve online, FEAR, BF2, and all seem way to slow for what they should be. Ive tried many things to solve this, I thought that explorer.exe was the cause as it was draining the cpu. But even when i disable explorer.exe and then test out my games, they are still just as slow. So i think the only thing left for me to do is install my old motherboard again. here is a list of my hardware:
p4 2.8 northwood with ht,
Gigabyte 8IPE1000-G/L ,
x850xt pe agp,
win xp pro,
19inch lcd (or the other kind like lcd),
audigy 2 zs platinum pro,
1024 mb pc3200 ddr ram.
Hard drive is ST380011A, i think from seagate

Psu: thermaltake purepower 460w

Please take a look at my sandra report for performance, and see if theres anything wrong thats causing all this. Also, it's not the pagefile that's the cause as i recently increased it's size to see if it helped. thanxx
SiSoftware Sandra

Display on Screen

Connection : Local Computer

Device Type : Desktop

General

Analysing...

Finished Successfully : Yes

Comments

Analysing...

Finished Successfully : Yes

System Summary

Analysing...

Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.

Finished Successfully : Yes

Mainboard Information

Analysing...

Tip 2532 : Consider adding more CPUs for better utilisation.

Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.

Tip 2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded.

Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity.

Finished Successfully : Yes

CPU & BIOS Information

Analysing...

Tip 210 : CPU 1 [Processor 0, Core 0, Thread 0] : Mainboard supports faster CPUs, so the CPU can be upgraded when needed.

Notice 224 : CPU 1 [Processor 0, Core 0, Thread 0] : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.

Tip 210 : CPU 2 [Processor 0, Core 0, Thread 1] : Mainboard supports faster CPUs, so the CPU can be upgraded when needed.

Notice 224 : CPU 2 [Processor 0, Core 0, Thread 1] : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.

Tip 201 : System BIOS : System BIOS is old. Check for an update.

Notice 224 : System BIOS : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.

Tip 212 : System BIOS : BIOS can be shadowed so check whether it is.

Warning 214 : System BIOS : BIOS is flash-able but surface-mounted. An unsuccessful flash may be fatal.

Finished Successfully : Yes

APM & ACPI Information

Analysing...

Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.

Finished Successfully : Yes

PCI(e), AGP, CardBus Bus(es) Information

Analysing...

Finished Successfully : Yes

Video System Information

Analysing...

Tip 319 : Video Adapter : Primary Display Driver (display) : A refresh rate of at least 75Hz is recommended. Increase it if possible.

Tip 322 : Video Adapter : Primary Display Driver (display) : Turn off screen savers. Use the monitor power saving mode.

Tip 323 : Video Adapter : Primary Display Driver (display) : Remove the desktop wallpaper to save memory and improve performance.

Tip 319 : Video Adapter : RADEON X850 Series (\\.\DISPLAY1) @ \\.\DISPLAY1 : A refresh rate of at least 75Hz is recommended. Increase it if possible.

Tip 322 : Video Adapter : RADEON X850 Series (\\.\DISPLAY1) @ \\.\DISPLAY1 : Turn off screen savers. Use the monitor power saving mode.

Tip 323 : Video Adapter : RADEON X850 Series (\\.\DISPLAY1) @ \\.\DISPLAY1 : Remove the desktop wallpaper to save memory and improve performance.

Finished Successfully : Yes

Windows Memory Information

Analysing...

Tip 2004 : Page file is too large. The page file should be maximum 2.5 times system memory.

Finished Successfully : Yes

Drives Information

Analysing...

Warning : 1.44MB 3.5" (A : Cannot obtain drive information; check that a disk is in the drive and it is correctly formatted.

Tip 1821 : Hard Disk (C : Label (name) drive.

Finished Successfully : Yes

Ports Information

Analysing...

Finished Successfully : Yes

Keyboard Information

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Finished Successfully : Yes

Mouse Information

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Finished Successfully : Yes

Sound Card Information

Analysing...

Finished Successfully : Yes

Printer and Fax Information

Analysing...

Error : No printers detected. : Could not initialise the print object!

Finished Successfully : Yes

MCI Devices Information

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Finished Successfully : Yes

Windows Information

Analysing...

Warning 1316 : This copy of Windows contains Product Activation Technology.

Warning 1322 : Hardware DEP is not supported by your CPU. Software DEP in use. Consider upgrading for complete security.

Warning 1319 : Auto-Update is disabled, consider at least notify.

Finished Successfully : Yes

WinSock & Security Information

Analysing...

Error : Anti-Virus Programs : No packages found

Finished Successfully : Yes

Processes Information

Analysing...

Tip 1601 : CLI : Program consumes a large amount of memory.

Tip 1601 : CLI : Program consumes a large amount of memory.

Finished Successfully : Yes

Modules Information

Analysing...

Finished Successfully : Yes

OLE Information

Analysing...

Finished Successfully : Yes

DirectX Information

Analysing...

Finished Successfully : Yes

Network Information

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Finished Successfully : Yes

SCSI Information

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Finished Successfully : Yes

Font Information

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Finished Successfully : Yes

CMOS Information

Analysing...

Finished Successfully : Yes

OpenGL Video Information

Analysing...

Finished Successfully : Yes

Services Information

Analysing...

Tip 2130 : Help and Support : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version.

Finished Successfully : Yes

ATA/ATAPI Information

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Finished Successfully : Yes

Data Sources Information

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Finished Successfully : Yes

Hardware IRQ Settings

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Finished Successfully : Yes

DMA Settings

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Finished Successfully : Yes

I/O Settings

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Finished Successfully : Yes

Memory Resources

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Finished Successfully : Yes

Plug & Play Enumerator

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Finished Successfully : Yes

Performance Tune-up Wizard

Finished Successfully : Yes

Also please read my agp system report as it may explain what's wrong, although i dont understand it enough. thanks

SiSoftware Sandra

Device Information
Device Type : VGA Video Adapter
Device ID : bus 1, device 0, function 0
Windows Device Name : RADEON X850 Series
OEM Device Name : ATI Technologies Inc ??? (4B4C)
OEM Hardware ID : FUN_0, VEN_1002, DEV_4B4C, REV_00
Device Name : ATI Technologies Inc ??? (4B4C)
Product ID : VEN_1002, DEV_0312
Revision : A / 1 (0)

AGP Capabilities
Version : 3.00
Command Queue Length : 256
Fast-Writes Support : Yes
Over 4GB Addressing Support : No
Isochronous Mode Support : No
Addressing Support : 32-bit
Data Transfer Modes Support : 4x 8x

Power Management Features
Version : 2.00
Supports Clock Slow-down : Yes
Supports D1 PM State : Yes
Supports D2 PM State : Yes
Supports PME# : No
Supports PME Clock : No

Device Capabilities
Line Cache Size : 8 byte(s)
Latency Timer : 255 clk
I/O port resources : Yes
Memory resources : Yes
Bus Master Capable : Yes
Special Cycle Recognition : No
Memory Write & Invalidate : No
VGA Palette Snoop : No
Parity Error Response : No
Address/Data Stepping : No
System Error Line : No
Fast back-to-back Transactions : No
Detects Parity Errors : No
Supports System Error Line : No
Supports Parity Line : No
User Defined Format : No
66MHz Bus Support : Yes
New Capability List : Yes
Device Select Timing : Medium
Multi-Function Device : Yes
Header : 00
Interface : 00

Hardware Resources
Memory Range : E8000000
I/O Range : 00009000
Memory Range : F9000000
Irq. No. : 16
INT Pin : A#
Dynamic Management : Yes

**linderman** · 04-11-2006, 07:58 PM

I would try running memtest (free in my sig) run for at least two hours and then report your findings ????

craig g · 04-13-2006, 12:04 PM

you also need to get the new bios for your motherboard...And you need a anti virus..go here to get free one..avg
http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Vir...-10342876.html

if you dont have a firewall go here to get a free one...zone alarm

http://www.snapfiles.com/get/zonealarm.html

**jnob** · 04-13-2006, 05:37 PM

Another helpful utility is Speedfan available here or Everest available here. If you could run one of these programs and report your voltage and temps that would be helpful.

Starmonger · 04-13-2006, 06:48 PM

Field Value
Sensor Properties
Sensor Type SMSC LPC47M192/997 (SMBus 2Dh)
GPU Sensor Type National LM63 (ATI-I2C 4Ch)
Motherboard Name Gigabyte 8IPE1000 v4

Temperatures
Motherboard 29 °C (84 °F)
CPU 31 °C (88 °F)
GPU [ TRIAL VERSION ]
GPU Ambient 32 °C (90 °F)
Seagate ST380011A [ TRIAL VERSION ]

Cooling Fans
CPU 2793 RPM

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.58 V
+1.5 V 1.70 V
+2.5 V 2.66 V
+3.3 V 3.39 V
+5 V 5.21 V
+12 V [ TRIAL VERSION ]

**jnob** · 04-13-2006, 07:49 PM

Those temps and voltages look OK, I'm thinking bios update then mem check as suggested.

04-11-2006, 03:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
Starmonger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6 OS: XP Pro	Performance troubles on clean format/install of xp I have recently bought a new motherboard and hard drive, and set everything up. However theres something bad going on, it seems that simple tasks will hogg cpu, such as resising a picture file (this could take up to 50% usuage just by changing the size over and over). I have tested on 4 games (black and white 2, eve online, FEAR, BF2, and all seem way to slow for what they should be. Ive tried many things to solve this, I thought that explorer.exe was the cause as it was draining the cpu. But even when i disable explorer.exe and then test out my games, they are still just as slow. So i think the only thing left for me to do is install my old motherboard again. here is a list of my hardware: p4 2.8 northwood with ht, Gigabyte 8IPE1000-G/L , x850xt pe agp, win xp pro, 19inch lcd (or the other kind like lcd), audigy 2 zs platinum pro, 1024 mb pc3200 ddr ram. Hard drive is ST380011A, i think from seagate Psu: thermaltake purepower 460w Please take a look at my sandra report for performance, and see if theres anything wrong thats causing all this. Also, it's not the pagefile that's the cause as i recently increased it's size to see if it helped. thanxx SiSoftware Sandra Display on Screen Connection : Local Computer Device Type : Desktop General Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Comments Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes System Summary Analysing... Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity. Finished Successfully : Yes Mainboard Information Analysing... Tip 2532 : Consider adding more CPUs for better utilisation. Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate. Tip 2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded. Tip 2546 : Large memory modules should be ECC/Parity. Finished Successfully : Yes CPU & BIOS Information Analysing... Tip 210 : CPU 1 [Processor 0, Core 0, Thread 0] : Mainboard supports faster CPUs, so the CPU can be upgraded when needed. Notice 224 : CPU 1 [Processor 0, Core 0, Thread 0] : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate. Tip 210 : CPU 2 [Processor 0, Core 0, Thread 1] : Mainboard supports faster CPUs, so the CPU can be upgraded when needed. Notice 224 : CPU 2 [Processor 0, Core 0, Thread 1] : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate. Tip 201 : System BIOS : System BIOS is old. Check for an update. Notice 224 : System BIOS : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate. Tip 212 : System BIOS : BIOS can be shadowed so check whether it is. Warning 214 : System BIOS : BIOS is flash-able but surface-mounted. An unsuccessful flash may be fatal. Finished Successfully : Yes APM & ACPI Information Analysing... Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate. Finished Successfully : Yes PCI(e), AGP, CardBus Bus(es) Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Video System Information Analysing... Tip 319 : Video Adapter : Primary Display Driver (display) : A refresh rate of at least 75Hz is recommended. Increase it if possible. Tip 322 : Video Adapter : Primary Display Driver (display) : Turn off screen savers. Use the monitor power saving mode. Tip 323 : Video Adapter : Primary Display Driver (display) : Remove the desktop wallpaper to save memory and improve performance. Tip 319 : Video Adapter : RADEON X850 Series (\\.\DISPLAY1) @ \\.\DISPLAY1 : A refresh rate of at least 75Hz is recommended. Increase it if possible. Tip 322 : Video Adapter : RADEON X850 Series (\\.\DISPLAY1) @ \\.\DISPLAY1 : Turn off screen savers. Use the monitor power saving mode. Tip 323 : Video Adapter : RADEON X850 Series (\\.\DISPLAY1) @ \\.\DISPLAY1 : Remove the desktop wallpaper to save memory and improve performance. Finished Successfully : Yes Windows Memory Information Analysing... Tip 2004 : Page file is too large. The page file should be maximum 2.5 times system memory. Finished Successfully : Yes Drives Information Analysing... Warning : 1.44MB 3.5" (A : Cannot obtain drive information; check that a disk is in the drive and it is correctly formatted. Tip 1821 : Hard Disk (C : Label (name) drive. Finished Successfully : Yes Ports Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Keyboard Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Mouse Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Sound Card Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Printer and Fax Information Analysing... Error : No printers detected. : Could not initialise the print object! Finished Successfully : Yes MCI Devices Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Windows Information Analysing... Warning 1316 : This copy of Windows contains Product Activation Technology. Warning 1322 : Hardware DEP is not supported by your CPU. Software DEP in use. Consider upgrading for complete security. Warning 1319 : Auto-Update is disabled, consider at least notify. Finished Successfully : Yes WinSock & Security Information Analysing... Error : Anti-Virus Programs : No packages found Finished Successfully : Yes Processes Information Analysing... Tip 1601 : CLI : Program consumes a large amount of memory. Tip 1601 : CLI : Program consumes a large amount of memory. Finished Successfully : Yes Modules Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes OLE Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes DirectX Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Network Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes SCSI Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Font Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes CMOS Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes OpenGL Video Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Services Information Analysing... Tip 2130 : Help and Support : Service may be disabled on Home/Professional OS version. Finished Successfully : Yes ATA/ATAPI Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Data Sources Information Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Hardware IRQ Settings Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes DMA Settings Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes I/O Settings Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Memory Resources Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Plug & Play Enumerator Analysing... Finished Successfully : Yes Performance Tune-up Wizard Finished Successfully : Yes Also please read my agp system report as it may explain what's wrong, although i dont understand it enough. thanks SiSoftware Sandra Device Information Device Type : VGA Video Adapter Device ID : bus 1, device 0, function 0 Windows Device Name : RADEON X850 Series OEM Device Name : ATI Technologies Inc ??? (4B4C) OEM Hardware ID : FUN_0, VEN_1002, DEV_4B4C, REV_00 Device Name : ATI Technologies Inc ??? (4B4C) Product ID : VEN_1002, DEV_0312 Revision : A / 1 (0) AGP Capabilities Version : 3.00 Command Queue Length : 256 Fast-Writes Support : Yes Over 4GB Addressing Support : No Isochronous Mode Support : No Addressing Support : 32-bit Data Transfer Modes Support : 4x 8x Power Management Features Version : 2.00 Supports Clock Slow-down : Yes Supports D1 PM State : Yes Supports D2 PM State : Yes Supports PME# : No Supports PME Clock : No Device Capabilities Line Cache Size : 8 byte(s) Latency Timer : 255 clk I/O port resources : Yes Memory resources : Yes Bus Master Capable : Yes Special Cycle Recognition : No Memory Write & Invalidate : No VGA Palette Snoop : No Parity Error Response : No Address/Data Stepping : No System Error Line : No Fast back-to-back Transactions : No Detects Parity Errors : No Supports System Error Line : No Supports Parity Line : No User Defined Format : No 66MHz Bus Support : Yes New Capability List : Yes Device Select Timing : Medium Multi-Function Device : Yes Header : 00 Interface : 00 Hardware Resources Memory Range : E8000000 I/O Range : 00009000 Memory Range : F9000000 Irq. No. : 16 INT Pin : A# Dynamic Management : Yes Last edited by Starmonger; 04-11-2006 at 03:16 PM.

04-11-2006, 07:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,402 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	I would try running memtest (free in my sig) run for at least two hours and then report your findings ???? __________________ Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day ! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

04-13-2006, 12:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
craig g Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 11 OS: xp	you also need to get the new bios for your motherboard...And you need a anti virus..go here to get free one..avg http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Vir...-10342876.html if you dont have a firewall go here to get a free one...zone alarm http://www.snapfiles.com/get/zonealarm.html

04-13-2006, 05:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
jnob TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Valley Posts: 692 OS: XP Pro, SP2 My System	Another helpful utility is Speedfan available here or Everest available here. If you could run one of these programs and report your voltage and temps that would be helpful.

04-13-2006, 06:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
Starmonger Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6 OS: XP Pro	Field Value Sensor Properties Sensor Type SMSC LPC47M192/997 (SMBus 2Dh) GPU Sensor Type National LM63 (ATI-I2C 4Ch) Motherboard Name Gigabyte 8IPE1000 v4 Temperatures Motherboard 29 °C (84 °F) CPU 31 °C (88 °F) GPU [ TRIAL VERSION ] GPU Ambient 32 °C (90 °F) Seagate ST380011A [ TRIAL VERSION ] Cooling Fans CPU 2793 RPM Voltage Values CPU Core 1.58 V +1.5 V 1.70 V +2.5 V 2.66 V +3.3 V 3.39 V +5 V 5.21 V +12 V [ TRIAL VERSION ]

04-13-2006, 07:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
jnob TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: CA Valley Posts: 692 OS: XP Pro, SP2 My System	Those temps and voltages look OK, I'm thinking bios update then mem check as suggested.