What is wrong?! Mobo? Cpu? Overheating? idk.. please help! - Page 3

bty · 01-04-2006, 05:04 PM

when i boot into dos
the cd rom works
i can copy and run files off of it
i'd say that means it works, right?

i just tried another almost brand new 350watt power supply too

kept reading a bunch of stuff on the mup.sys error that was saying things along the lines of it being a power supply problem and what not.. so figured i'd try it..

still getting the same errors though =(

and even if i can't get the xp setup to run through boot disks
we're just making more problems for us to solve

why am i getting the CMOS checksum error?
why is it freezing at mup.sys when i try booting into windows?

if i wasn't getting the cmos checksum error, i could just boot from the cd..
then all would be well..

so why don't we focus on fixing that?

i'm sorry if you've got a plan, it just seems to me that if i fix that problem, then the others will all start comming together..

dai · 01-04-2006, 05:14 PM

it does not matter how new a power supply is,it is how many amps it is capable of putting out
current day computers require a min of 18a on the 12v line for an agp system and a lot more for sli

bty · 01-05-2006, 11:54 AM

*shrugs*

just tried to see if it'd maybe work..
it didn't..

spent last night trying a few different boot disks\cds to see if i could get anything out of it and so far no luck..

still getting the cmos checksum error and windows still won't boot..

any more suggestions or should I just fork out some more money to have a professional look at it? =(

dai · 01-05-2006, 12:01 PM

when you turn it on is the cd light flashing like it should

bty · 01-05-2006, 12:08 PM

yes, the led on the cd-rom lights up

bty · 01-05-2006, 12:29 PM

ok..

right now all that's hooked up are the minimums..

power supply
mobo
cpu
ram
video card

i'm still getting this cmos checksum error

why?

cd-rom can't have anything to do with this
it's not plugged in and i'm still getting the error..

dai · 01-05-2006, 12:38 PM

http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000237.htm

bty · 01-05-2006, 12:48 PM

on the old mobo
yeah i had a few power outages before all of this happened

but now i'm dealing with the new mobo
i haven't had any power outages yet
this error was here when i first put this mobo in

replacing the battery i've tried
and i've shut it on and off numerous times
it still isn't booting

so those two solutions didn't work for me..

should i try buying another brand new battery?

dai · 01-05-2006, 01:08 PM

the first component to get damaged in that situation is the power supply,although it may appear to power up it does not mean there is sufficient power to run the computer
to swap another supply in,it needs to be putting out suffient amps or it will be the same as the one you just took out
to test you need one that is a quality build and pushing out 18a on the 12v line
running just the basic componants at startup is to eliminate them from the equasion,they have very little effect on the power required to start the computer successfully

bty · 01-05-2006, 03:09 PM

the power supply i tried last night says 20a under the 12v

so i'm guessing it should've done the trick if the power supply was the problem ? later i'll be going to walmart, should i perhaps invest in "renting" a power supply? buying one and returning it later if it doesn't work ? :D

figured i'd buy another cmos battery while i was there too since they're cheap, just incase that was the problem..

bty · 01-05-2006, 05:59 PM

my step dad was just testing the cmos batteries and the power supply with this meter thing or whatever...

he's some kind of engineer i dont know..

but he was saying that they're both working as they should..

sooo..

cmos battery works
power supply works

why am i still getting this cmos checksum error? lol :(

dai · 01-05-2006, 07:47 PM

http://www.duxcw.com/faq/cmos/checksum.htm
recheck you have replaced the cmos jumper to pins 1 and 2
we have gone through everything i can think of,rma the m/b

**forcifer** · 01-06-2006, 08:48 PM

this is one wierd cmos. u can almost build a new comp from everything u hav bought lol. if wut dai said doesnt work, return the mobo for a replacement

bty · 01-06-2006, 08:51 PM

lol yeah it pretty much is a new computer..

i'm going to ask a friend of the family that's a computer engineer if he has any last suggestions before i return it.. i'm just hoping that it'll work once i RMA it.. if not i'm out of ideas.. guess all that's left is to take it somewhere and see if anyone can do something with it haha..

01-04-2006, 05:14 PM	#42 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,185 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	it does not matter how new a power supply is,it is how many amps it is capable of putting out current day computers require a min of 18a on the 12v line for an agp system and a lot more for sli __________________

01-05-2006, 12:01 PM	#44 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,185 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	when you turn it on is the cd light flashing like it should __________________

01-05-2006, 12:38 PM	#47 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,185 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000237.htm __________________

01-05-2006, 12:48 PM	#48 (permalink)
bty Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 35 OS: xp	on the old mobo yeah i had a few power outages before all of this happened but now i'm dealing with the new mobo i haven't had any power outages yet this error was here when i first put this mobo in replacing the battery i've tried and i've shut it on and off numerous times it still isn't booting so those two solutions didn't work for me.. should i try buying another brand new battery? Last edited by bty; 01-05-2006 at 12:51 PM.

01-05-2006, 01:08 PM	#49 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,185 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	the first component to get damaged in that situation is the power supply,although it may appear to power up it does not mean there is sufficient power to run the computer to swap another supply in,it needs to be putting out suffient amps or it will be the same as the one you just took out to test you need one that is a quality build and pushing out 18a on the 12v line running just the basic componants at startup is to eliminate them from the equasion,they have very little effect on the power required to start the computer successfully __________________

01-04-2006, 05:04 PM	#41 (permalink)
bty Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 35 OS: xp	when i boot into dos the cd rom works i can copy and run files off of it i'd say that means it works, right? i just tried another almost brand new 350watt power supply too kept reading a bunch of stuff on the mup.sys error that was saying things along the lines of it being a power supply problem and what not.. so figured i'd try it.. still getting the same errors though =( and even if i can't get the xp setup to run through boot disks we're just making more problems for us to solve why am i getting the CMOS checksum error? why is it freezing at mup.sys when i try booting into windows? if i wasn't getting the cmos checksum error, i could just boot from the cd.. then all would be well.. so why don't we focus on fixing that? i'm sorry if you've got a plan, it just seems to me that if i fix that problem, then the others will all start comming together..

01-05-2006, 11:54 AM	#43 (permalink)
bty Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 35 OS: xp	shrugs just tried to see if it'd maybe work.. it didn't.. spent last night trying a few different boot disks\cds to see if i could get anything out of it and so far no luck.. still getting the cmos checksum error and windows still won't boot.. any more suggestions or should I just fork out some more money to have a professional look at it? =(

01-05-2006, 12:08 PM	#45 (permalink)
bty Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 35 OS: xp	yes, the led on the cd-rom lights up

01-05-2006, 12:29 PM	#46 (permalink)
bty Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 35 OS: xp	ok.. right now all that's hooked up are the minimums.. power supply mobo cpu ram video card i'm still getting this cmos checksum error why? cd-rom can't have anything to do with this it's not plugged in and i'm still getting the error..

01-05-2006, 03:09 PM	#50 (permalink)
bty Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 35 OS: xp	the power supply i tried last night says 20a under the 12v so i'm guessing it should've done the trick if the power supply was the problem ? later i'll be going to walmart, should i perhaps invest in "renting" a power supply? buying one and returning it later if it doesn't work ? :D figured i'd buy another cmos battery while i was there too since they're cheap, just incase that was the problem..

01-05-2006, 05:59 PM	#51 (permalink)
bty Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 35 OS: xp	my step dad was just testing the cmos batteries and the power supply with this meter thing or whatever... he's some kind of engineer i dont know.. but he was saying that they're both working as they should.. sooo.. cmos battery works power supply works why am i still getting this cmos checksum error? lol :(

01-05-2006, 07:47 PM	#52 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,185 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	http://www.duxcw.com/faq/cmos/checksum.htm recheck you have replaced the cmos jumper to pins 1 and 2 we have gone through everything i can think of,rma the m/b __________________

01-06-2006, 08:48 PM	#53 (permalink)
forcifer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City kansas Posts: 3,619 OS: Vista Premium 32 My System Blog Entries: 1	this is one wierd cmos. u can almost build a new comp from everything u hav bought lol. if wut dai said doesnt work, return the mobo for a replacement __________________ now i remember

01-06-2006, 08:51 PM	#54 (permalink)
bty Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 35 OS: xp	lol yeah it pretty much is a new computer.. i'm going to ask a friend of the family that's a computer engineer if he has any last suggestions before i return it.. i'm just hoping that it'll work once i RMA it.. if not i'm out of ideas.. guess all that's left is to take it somewhere and see if anyone can do something with it haha..