Computer i built won't boot up?!?!?

rfalcon5 · 11-24-2005, 10:55 AM

Hi, I'm new here and i have a problem. I built a new computer yesterday:
intel celeron 2.66 ghz
matsonic ms9377c+ (478) motherboard
geforce mx 400 agp 8x vid card
512 ddr ram 400mhz
160gb hdd

My problem is that when i go to power it on for the first time it beeps and i here the hard drive spinning and the cooling fan for the processor spins but the monitor stays in standby. I've made sure the video card is pushed in all the way and so is the ram. One thing i've noticed is that the floppy drive also doesn't respond (meaning it doesn't light up when machine is powered on). I heard the way to check to make sure the processr works is to remove the fan and power it on and touch to see if it heats up...and it does, so that cant be the problem. I'm afraid that my mobo is bad. Does anyone have any suggestions on what i could do before i buy a new mobo or what else the problem could be. I don't have a multimeter so i can't test for any voltage

Any help would be truly appreciated
thanx

XTC · 11-24-2005, 11:01 AM

I'm almost 100% sure your graphics card is screwed.

**oldmn** · 11-24-2005, 11:10 AM

Are you sure the mother board is a ms9377 and not the 9388 matsonic does not list the 9377 just a 9077
If it is the 9388 you will need to go into the bios and disable the onboard video before you can use the agp slot.

rfalcon5 · 11-24-2005, 11:24 AM

yea it is a ms9377...well thats atleast what it says on the box, and i don't think i can disable the onboard video because there isn't any onboard vga slot

~~whodat~~ · 11-26-2005, 05:14 AM

" I don't have a multimeter so i can't test for any voltage"

i think you are going to have to buy one, they are very cheap at sears now, 10 or 15 bucks.

you need to eliminate your power supply

maybe build it out of the case with the bare essentials - motherboard-hard drive-memory-video-cpu/heatsink on a piece of card board to eliminate any short that might be taken place. jump the on/off switch with a paperclip to start.

you would disable your on board video, if you have on board video, through your bios, tap delete... right at start up.

rfalcon5 · 11-26-2005, 09:32 AM

is the cd rom that came with the mobo important???????

**oldmn** · 11-26-2005, 09:34 AM

one thing you might look at is the JP2 next to the battery and make sure it is on pins 2-3 closest to the bat. I have had some of these arrive with the cmos clear shorted.

rfalcon5 · 11-26-2005, 09:43 AM

thanx oldmn, but i've checked that several times, and the psu is working fine, I've replaced almost everything and get the same results, the only thing that i've used throughout is the cpu, and i bought it used, do u think thats the issue???

**please** · 11-26-2005, 09:46 AM

@ rfalcon5
Also if you tested the CPU in the manner you stated, you hopefully cleaned off the old thermal paste and reinstalled new paste and reseated the HSF properly. Heres some good instructions if needed. This must be done every time the HSF is removed.

If your floppy isn't responding, make sure your ribbon cable is oriented correctly. The red line on the cable goes to the #1 pin.

I see from your mobo specs that it does NOT have any onboard video to disable. Can you test the video card in another system or do you know that it works positively? I would try it in another system anyway.

Hve you tried booting it up with the WinXP(if that is what you are using) in the ROM drive to install the OS? Is your boot order set to 'floppy-ROM-HDD'?

rfalcon5 · 11-26-2005, 09:53 AM

to Please:
Yes i cleaned off the old thermal paste and the arctic silver product is what i am using and i applyed it before putting the heatsink and fan on

I've flipped the ribbon cable on the floppy over and it does light up but it just stays lit and doesn't spin to search for a disk.

I don't have another computer with an agp slot to test it on but i bought it brand new so realistically it should work fine

I don't know what the boot order is because i get nothing on the screen (stays in standby) but I'll try putting the win xp in the drive...I'll let you know

Vanilla-SA · 12-30-2005, 04:33 AM

Do a bios update for the prescott CPU

11-24-2005, 10:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
rfalcon5 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 12 OS: xp	Computer i built won't boot up?!?!? Hi, I'm new here and i have a problem. I built a new computer yesterday: intel celeron 2.66 ghz matsonic ms9377c+ (478) motherboard geforce mx 400 agp 8x vid card 512 ddr ram 400mhz 160gb hdd My problem is that when i go to power it on for the first time it beeps and i here the hard drive spinning and the cooling fan for the processor spins but the monitor stays in standby. I've made sure the video card is pushed in all the way and so is the ram. One thing i've noticed is that the floppy drive also doesn't respond (meaning it doesn't light up when machine is powered on). I heard the way to check to make sure the processr works is to remove the fan and power it on and touch to see if it heats up...and it does, so that cant be the problem. I'm afraid that my mobo is bad. Does anyone have any suggestions on what i could do before i buy a new mobo or what else the problem could be. I don't have a multimeter so i can't test for any voltage Any help would be truly appreciated thanx

11-24-2005, 11:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
oldmn TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gig Harbor Wa Posts: 2,150 OS: XP Pro SP3 X 3 My System	Are you sure the mother board is a ms9377 and not the 9388 matsonic does not list the 9377 just a 9077 If it is the 9388 you will need to go into the bios and disable the onboard video before you can use the agp slot. __________________ AVG \| MEMTEST86 \| Zone Alarm \| XXCLONE \| Adaware \| Beyond Compare \| Everest If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Sorry no PM's for problems.[/center]

11-26-2005, 05:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
~~whodat~~ Register user Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,931 OS: XP	" I don't have a multimeter so i can't test for any voltage" i think you are going to have to buy one, they are very cheap at sears now, 10 or 15 bucks. you need to eliminate your power supply maybe build it out of the case with the bare essentials - motherboard-hard drive-memory-video-cpu/heatsink on a piece of card board to eliminate any short that might be taken place. jump the on/off switch with a paperclip to start. you would disable your on board video, if you have on board video, through your bios, tap delete... right at start up. Last edited by whodat; 11-26-2005 at 05:52 AM.

11-26-2005, 09:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
oldmn TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gig Harbor Wa Posts: 2,150 OS: XP Pro SP3 X 3 My System	one thing you might look at is the JP2 next to the battery and make sure it is on pins 2-3 closest to the bat. I have had some of these arrive with the cmos clear shorted. __________________ AVG \| MEMTEST86 \| Zone Alarm \| XXCLONE \| Adaware \| Beyond Compare \| Everest If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Sorry no PM's for problems.[/center]

11-26-2005, 09:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
please Tech Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,185 OS: WinXP SP2	@ rfalcon5 Also if you tested the CPU in the manner you stated, you hopefully cleaned off the old thermal paste and reinstalled new paste and reseated the HSF properly. Heres some good instructions if needed. This must be done every time the HSF is removed. If your floppy isn't responding, make sure your ribbon cable is oriented correctly. The red line on the cable goes to the #1 pin. I see from your mobo specs that it does NOT have any onboard video to disable. Can you test the video card in another system or do you know that it works positively? I would try it in another system anyway. Hve you tried booting it up with the WinXP(if that is what you are using) in the ROM drive to install the OS? Is your boot order set to 'floppy-ROM-HDD'? __________________ P4P800E-D:~:P4 3.0C@3.75GHz:~:Zal7000AlCu:~:OCZ4001024ELDCPER2-K@250MHz 2.5-3-3-7 WinXP SP2>2X160GB Samsung SATA ICH5R RAID1:~:2x80GB Samsung SATA Promise RAID0 ATI A-I-W X800XT~SB Audigy2 ZS~2X BenQ1620~Antec SLK3700AMB~Antec SmartPower2.0 500W

11-24-2005, 11:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
XTC Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 13 OS: XP	I'm almost 100% sure your graphics card is screwed.

11-24-2005, 11:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
rfalcon5 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 12 OS: xp	yea it is a ms9377...well thats atleast what it says on the box, and i don't think i can disable the onboard video because there isn't any onboard vga slot

11-26-2005, 09:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
rfalcon5 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 12 OS: xp	is the cd rom that came with the mobo important???????

11-26-2005, 09:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
rfalcon5 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 12 OS: xp	thanx oldmn, but i've checked that several times, and the psu is working fine, I've replaced almost everything and get the same results, the only thing that i've used throughout is the cpu, and i bought it used, do u think thats the issue???

11-26-2005, 09:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
rfalcon5 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 12 OS: xp	to Please: Yes i cleaned off the old thermal paste and the arctic silver product is what i am using and i applyed it before putting the heatsink and fan on I've flipped the ribbon cable on the floppy over and it does light up but it just stays lit and doesn't spin to search for a disk. I don't have another computer with an agp slot to test it on but i bought it brand new so realistically it should work fine I don't know what the boot order is because i get nothing on the screen (stays in standby) but I'll try putting the win xp in the drive...I'll let you know

12-30-2005, 04:33 AM	#11 (permalink)
Vanilla-SA Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1 OS: XP	Do a bios update for the prescott CPU