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Volt-Schwibe · 03-20-2005, 01:41 PM

i add fans when there is a heat problem.

although, it is generally accepted that an exhaust fan in the top rear of the tower is a good thing, so if your tower has a place for one there, put one there.

ivanmmj · 03-20-2005, 03:07 PM

Make sure the fans take air OUT more than take in.
Liquid cooling is really good and quiet, but not as easy to set up and keep up.

**Sarkast** · 03-20-2005, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivanmmj

Make sure the fans take air OUT more than take in

May i ask what makes you say this ?

Volt-Schwibe · 03-20-2005, 06:12 PM

good question...

however, some have theorised that with more fans blowing in, the atmosperic pressure changes the magnetism and causes the dust in the air to become charged positively, and makes for more of a dust problem.

as to the question of is this true or not? i have no clue, but it's a general rule i've followed as well.

also, as others have pointed out, there is usually a better result from fans drawing air out of the case. many times a side inlet fan, or front inlet fan can actually raise temps.

**Sarkast** · 03-20-2005, 06:32 PM

Then i must be a follower of the "other theory" (LOL) - which states that keeping a confined space at positive pressure (most fans blowing in than out - which of course is a little simplified) helps to draw dust out. I must not be alone with this because i've seen it done in military (radar) installations aswell as scientific (electronics/ astronomy) and medical.

Rudso · 03-20-2005, 10:58 PM

I think the 6800GT comes with fans if im not mistaken but how much are the fans usually cost?

crazijoe · 03-21-2005, 05:51 AM

http://www.pricewatch.com/

Rudso · 03-21-2005, 09:09 PM

I was reading about this guy that had a problem with his graphic card and that he checked the temp. of the graphic card. How do you check wat temperture the graphic card and wat temperture is it suppost to be?

Volt-Schwibe · 03-21-2005, 09:27 PM

well, only some video cards are going to have the sensor in there.

on my computer, speedfan brings me back 4 temps; CPU, GPU, NorthBridge, and one that i cannot identify, but doesnt change.

i found out which was which by aiming an air gun around at certain parts of my machine while it was loaded down and with my temp display open.

other than that, i don't know what to suggest.

ivanmmj · 03-21-2005, 09:47 PM

Because you want to take hot air OUT not put more air in.

Rudso · 03-21-2005, 09:58 PM

i dont get that Air gun trick you did? air gun as in a BB gun?

Very Confused · 03-21-2005, 10:09 PM

All this bickering. What are you using this computer for? Sounds to me like it is a goming computer. Go with the AMD. Like I read in a message above the Clock speed does not matter. The memory controller is intagrated on the CPU it self so it does not have to make that hop. Which in all reality makes the frontside bus twice as fast. i.e. 800 FSB (intel) to 1600 FSB (AMD 64) which is important.

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ATI 9800 Pro
2 Maxtor 160 Gig SATA
Ultra X-Connect 500W

Volt-Schwibe · 03-21-2005, 11:34 PM

no, not air gun like bb gun, air gun like a blow gun, that blows air at things.

(basically a fan with an aiming tube attached)

you point it at your video card, and watch for a heat sensor to drop.
then, you know that sensor is your video card.

you point it at your northbridge chip, and then you know what sensor is the northbridge.

i cant think of a simpler way to tell which temp reading goes to what device.

Rudso · 03-22-2005, 12:27 AM

oh ok i preatty much get it... ya Very Confused, i had this computer for about 3 years now if not more and i was thinking of buying a new computer but then i started to get in to this computer stuff and figured it would be interesting if i could buy the parts my self and try to put it together if not ill give them to a computer tech place so they could put the stuff together :) but ya im building a gaming machine... well at least im trying to lol

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Volt-Schwibe Asst. Manager, Automotive Forums; HJT Trainee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Behind you, watching you as you type. Posts: 7,352 OS: Click "My System" to view details My System	good question... however, some have theorised that with more fans blowing in, the atmosperic pressure changes the magnetism and causes the dust in the air to become charged positively, and makes for more of a dust problem. as to the question of is this true or not? i have no clue, but it's a general rule i've followed as well. also, as others have pointed out, there is usually a better result from fans drawing air out of the case. many times a side inlet fan, or front inlet fan can actually raise temps. __________________ <signature> TSF is funded by our Admin's pocket, care to help? Power Tip: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. New Members: Creating a single new thread in the correct section is the best way to assure your thread will receive a reply. </signature>

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Volt-Schwibe Asst. Manager, Automotive Forums; HJT Trainee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Behind you, watching you as you type. Posts: 7,352 OS: Click "My System" to view details My System	well, only some video cards are going to have the sensor in there. on my computer, speedfan brings me back 4 temps; CPU, GPU, NorthBridge, and one that i cannot identify, but doesnt change. i found out which was which by aiming an air gun around at certain parts of my machine while it was loaded down and with my temp display open. other than that, i don't know what to suggest. __________________ <signature> TSF is funded by our Admin's pocket, care to help? Power Tip: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. New Members: Creating a single new thread in the correct section is the best way to assure your thread will receive a reply. </signature>

03-20-2005, 03:07 PM	#62 (permalink)
ivanmmj Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 23 OS: WinXP	Make sure the fans take air OUT more than take in. Liquid cooling is really good and quiet, but not as easy to set up and keep up.

03-20-2005, 10:58 PM	#66 (permalink)
Rudso Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 93 OS: WinXP	I think the 6800GT comes with fans if im not mistaken but how much are the fans usually cost?

03-21-2005, 09:09 PM	#68 (permalink)
Rudso Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 93 OS: WinXP	I was reading about this guy that had a problem with his graphic card and that he checked the temp. of the graphic card. How do you check wat temperture the graphic card and wat temperture is it suppost to be?

03-21-2005, 09:47 PM	#70 (permalink)
ivanmmj Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 23 OS: WinXP	Because you want to take hot air OUT not put more air in.

03-21-2005, 09:58 PM	#71 (permalink)
Rudso Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 93 OS: WinXP	i dont get that Air gun trick you did? air gun as in a BB gun?

03-21-2005, 10:09 PM	#72 (permalink)
Very Confused Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 10 OS: Windows XP Pro	Wow All this bickering. What are you using this computer for? Sounds to me like it is a goming computer. Go with the AMD. Like I read in a message above the Clock speed does not matter. The memory controller is intagrated on the CPU it self so it does not have to make that hop. Which in all reality makes the frontside bus twice as fast. i.e. 800 FSB (intel) to 1600 FSB (AMD 64) which is important. AMD Atholon 64 3400 ASUS K8V Deluxe MOBO Dual Channel PQI 3200 2 Gig ATI 9800 Pro 2 Maxtor 160 Gig SATA Ultra X-Connect 500W

03-21-2005, 11:34 PM	#73 (permalink)
Volt-Schwibe Asst. Manager, Automotive Forums; HJT Trainee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Behind you, watching you as you type. Posts: 7,352 OS: Click "My System" to view details My System	no, not air gun like bb gun, air gun like a blow gun, that blows air at things. (basically a fan with an aiming tube attached) you point it at your video card, and watch for a heat sensor to drop. then, you know that sensor is your video card. you point it at your northbridge chip, and then you know what sensor is the northbridge. i cant think of a simpler way to tell which temp reading goes to what device. __________________ <signature> TSF is funded by our Admin's pocket, care to help? Power Tip: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. New Members: Creating a single new thread in the correct section is the best way to assure your thread will receive a reply. </signature>

03-22-2005, 12:27 AM	#74 (permalink)
Rudso Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 93 OS: WinXP	oh ok i preatty much get it... ya Very Confused, i had this computer for about 3 years now if not more and i was thinking of buying a new computer but then i started to get in to this computer stuff and figured it would be interesting if i could buy the parts my self and try to put it together if not ill give them to a computer tech place so they could put the stuff together :) but ya im building a gaming machine... well at least im trying to lol