A8V Deluxe - VIA Master IDE Driver?

LordGAD · 03-16-2005, 06:55 PM

A8V with AMD 64 3200+

Installing from scratch. XP is complaining about new hardware found - VIA Bus Master IDE Driver.

I've installed every friggin' driver on the ASUS A8V site. Still it's looking for this driver.

Can someone please tell me *** I need to install?

Also My CDROM is suddenly slow to the point of useless. Is this related to this missing driver or should I look elsewhere?

OS is XP - I just installed SP2 which I will probably roll back because it's one more thing causing me grief at this point.

ANY help is appreciated.

Thanks,

GAD

03-16-2005, 07:09 PM

Hi,

Have you upgraded the BIOS? This board has been known to be very stubborn (and sometimes not responsive at all) with anything but the latest BIOS when using this processor. Also, I must assume that you have loaded the original chipset drivers from your motherboard CD.

**clintfan** · 03-16-2005, 08:28 PM

Hi LordGAD, and welcome to the forum!

"VIA Bus Master IDE Controller" is in the VIA 4-in-1 driver package. You'll find it referenced in the file \IDEWinXP\VIAIDEXP.INF, and I think the driver itself is in that same folder. Another thing in this same package is the "chipset drivers" mark3567 referred to, in the \Inf folder.

There's a Setup.exe program that should install the whole thing, otherwise I should think you can find the "Have Disk" button and navigate to the file I gave above, and select it, to get the driver on.

About the CDROM, couple things: if you have the 40-conductor cable (the bumpy one), throw it out: they limit throughput to max ATA33 rate. You need the 80-conductor IDE cables for everything now (the smooth ones) Make sure the strapping and cabling are right. Lack of the proper chipset drivers could introduce slowness, I suppose. And finally, Windows has become slow to recognize optical media and process the Autorun.inf file; if you try to Explore the CD at the same time that mess is going on, it takes a lllooonnnggg time to sort out, especially now that drives support any of two dozen types of media and content. This is a Windows "feature" and I don't know a definitive way to fix it, short of disabling Autoplay in the drive properties. Not sure if that's your problem, though, so for now I'd leave it alone.

Hope this helps,

-clintfan

LordGAD · 03-17-2005, 04:42 PM

I've updated the BIOS to 1009.

Unfortunately I do not have (or can't find) the CD that came with the board. I'm downloading drivers from ASUS, and don't see any mention of the files specified in the 4-in-1 download, which is basically an install program.

Am I dorked without the CD?

thanks,

GAD

LordGAD · 03-17-2005, 06:44 PM

Had everything set to cable select, or so I thought. One drive (40G Maxtor) doesn't support it and was set to master.

The CDROM problem is resolved with a complete audit of my IDE cabling. An upgraded BIOS doesn't hurt either. :)

GAD

03-17-2005, 06:58 PM

Hi,

You really need to stick with the master/slave settings on all your drives instead of the cable select. With the problems you have, that is what I would do. That is my personal opinon.

LordGAD · 03-17-2005, 06:59 PM

The "VIA Bus Master IDE drivers" shows up twice in device manager: once under IDE ATA/Atapi (which is good), and once under SCSI and RAID controllers. This one has the yellow exclamation on it.

Clue?

GAD

**clintfan** · 03-17-2005, 11:30 PM

Quote:

The "VIA Bus Master IDE drivers" shows up twice in device manager: once under IDE ATA/Atapi (which is good), and once under SCSI and RAID controllers. This one has the yellow exclamation on it. Clue?

I can't definitely explain that from here. It might help if in DeviceManager you switched the view to Devices by Connection instead of by Type. Then we could maybe see where the yellow-exclamation device falls out. Unfortunately VIA doesn't publish much detail about the internal stuff. But knowing what's above this device in the chain, may (or may not) give us a clue.

Your mobo has at least 2 different VIA controllers onboard. The 4in1 package gives you the VT8237 driver for the basic PATA ports PRI_IDE and SEC_IDE.

I'm having trouble remembering but FWIW I think there might be an embedded (aka. "OnChip") VT6420 chip inside the VT8237; this drives the SATA ports and uses a separate driver, VIA VT6420 (VT8237) SATA RAID Driver Package Version 2.20D WHQL. I think VIA didn't go with quite the homogeneous integrated scheme Intel uses, rather they use a chip-grouping scheme. In the end you need to load multiple drivers for different ports on the same chip.

The 6420 package has both PATA IDE driver and SATA driver components, since according to the Readme, the 6420 chip can apparently make a RAID with 2xSATA plus 2xPATA. But in your case I think only the SATA RAID applies, since Asus has only provides the SATA1 & 2 ports. When properly installed, I think that that RAID device should come up as "VIA Serial ATA RAID Controller". (I don't think the PRI_IDE & SEC_IDE ports can be used with RAID, I think they're driven some other way, bu the 4in1.)

I can't believe Windows would let you put the wrong driver on a device, and still be able to boot...? You said you put on every possible driver, but maybe somehow the driver for the RAID one never got on. Or maybe it refused to go on, perhaps because the Onchip SATA BOOTROM didn't get turned on in the BIOS? I'm not sure.

Hope something here helps,

-clintfan

03-16-2005, 06:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
LordGAD Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4 OS: xp	A8V Deluxe - VIA Master IDE Driver? A8V with AMD 64 3200+ Installing from scratch. XP is complaining about new hardware found - VIA Bus Master IDE Driver. I've installed every friggin' driver on the ASUS A8V site. Still it's looking for this driver. Can someone please tell me *** I need to install? Also My CDROM is suddenly slow to the point of useless. Is this related to this missing driver or should I look elsewhere? OS is XP - I just installed SP2 which I will probably roll back because it's one more thing causing me grief at this point. ANY help is appreciated. Thanks, GAD

03-16-2005, 08:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
clintfan Guru Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA Posts: 2,655 OS: XP Pro	Hi LordGAD, and welcome to the forum! "VIA Bus Master IDE Controller" is in the VIA 4-in-1 driver package. You'll find it referenced in the file \IDEWinXP\VIAIDEXP.INF, and I think the driver itself is in that same folder. Another thing in this same package is the "chipset drivers" mark3567 referred to, in the \Inf folder. There's a Setup.exe program that should install the whole thing, otherwise I should think you can find the "Have Disk" button and navigate to the file I gave above, and select it, to get the driver on. About the CDROM, couple things: if you have the 40-conductor cable (the bumpy one), throw it out: they limit throughput to max ATA33 rate. You need the 80-conductor IDE cables for everything now (the smooth ones) Make sure the strapping and cabling are right. Lack of the proper chipset drivers could introduce slowness, I suppose. And finally, Windows has become slow to recognize optical media and process the Autorun.inf file; if you try to Explore the CD at the same time that mess is going on, it takes a lllooonnnggg time to sort out, especially now that drives support any of two dozen types of media and content. This is a Windows "feature" and I don't know a definitive way to fix it, short of disabling Autoplay in the drive properties. Not sure if that's your problem, though, so for now I'd leave it alone. Hope this helps, -clintfan Last edited by clintfan; 03-16-2005 at 08:38 PM.

03-17-2005, 04:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
LordGAD Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4 OS: xp	Thanks for the help but... I've updated the BIOS to 1009. Unfortunately I do not have (or can't find) the CD that came with the board. I'm downloading drivers from ASUS, and don't see any mention of the files specified in the 4-in-1 download, which is basically an install program. Am I dorked without the CD? thanks, GAD

03-17-2005, 06:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
LordGAD Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4 OS: xp	CDROM Is Fixed Had everything set to cable select, or so I thought. One drive (40G Maxtor) doesn't support it and was set to master. The CDROM problem is resolved with a complete audit of my IDE cabling. An upgraded BIOS doesn't hurt either. :) GAD

03-17-2005, 06:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
LordGAD Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 4 OS: xp	More... The "VIA Bus Master IDE drivers" shows up twice in device manager: once under IDE ATA/Atapi (which is good), and once under SCSI and RAID controllers. This one has the yellow exclamation on it. Clue? GAD

03-16-2005, 07:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
mark3567 Guest Posts: n/a OS:	Hi, Have you upgraded the BIOS? This board has been known to be very stubborn (and sometimes not responsive at all) with anything but the latest BIOS when using this processor. Also, I must assume that you have loaded the original chipset drivers from your motherboard CD.

03-17-2005, 06:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
mark3567 Guest Posts: n/a OS:	Hi, You really need to stick with the master/slave settings on all your drives instead of the cable select. With the problems you have, that is what I would do. That is my personal opinon.