Any hope for my new pc ?

didntknowthis · 08-23-2009, 10:40 AM

Well..first of all i was building a new pc:
CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition 3.10 GHz skt AM3 box
Mobo:Asus M4A78T-E
RAM: Corsair 2GB 1333MHz DDR3 CL9 DHX Dual Channel Kit
HDD: Hard disk Samsung 320GB SATA-II 7200RPM 16MB NCQ SpinPoint F1 Series
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-550VX
Case: Aplus Monolize II
Case fan: AKASA AK-274CB-4BLS
Sony DVD WR

To cut it off quickly i'll say exactly how i managed shortcircuit my mobo. After installing the cpu on the mother board..then hdd,psu, case fans and dvd on the case, i wanted to install my motherboard into the case. Sice it was my first time building a pc, i didn't knew i needed metal screw standoffs. My case didn't have a manual :| .

So, I thought this mobo doesn't need any standoffs -omg i'm so idiot (my old pc had some other kind of metal standoffs that looked like a hump and that were inserted into little holes in the case) ... i just used only 4 screws to get the mobo intact on the case...(how idiot i am !!!!). After powering it on the case fan led powered up one second and than the system turned off..no boot screen no beeps no nothing! then i smelled something weird ..i thought it was the case fan so i removed all peripherials and turnd it again with no effect...only the cpu cooler moving very slowly ...so the psu fan ..so i turned it off again ... and then checked it again and did another last try...to sum up: 3 desperate tries to resuscitate my dearest mobo..

Well this was it :(( my new pc is dead within a second

I packed the system and i m waiting for an expert to come tommorrow to measure the voltages...but meanwhile i want to know what should i expect...
After inspecting the mobo i saw a small circuit with another color than others...so i think that got fried...i know there is no hope for this mobo ..it's toasted
But i want to know at least if anything else did get fried in this process: did the cpu suffered (i believe so :( ) ? are RAM, case fans, hdd, dvd and psu alright ?
Is there anyhope so i can't get a new mobo from the guarantee certificate? ( i want to put the screw standoffs like they should be before going with the system to the dealer..i want to make it look alright and convince them the mobo had a fault :P )

Any suggests/recommends/advices are wellcome..and sice i'm an idiot everyone should know ...so u can even swear me if u think this will repair my mobo :-".. ok i'm being sarcastic ... I REALLY NEED HELP .. thanks guys

avibitto · 08-23-2009, 11:33 AM

can u picture the "fried component"?
have u noticed any leds are on after the first or second try?

didntknowthis · 08-23-2009, 11:41 AM

the green led on the motherboard was lighting every time i was powering it on...but the circuit with another color on the mobo looks very frightening

**Tyree** · 08-23-2009, 11:49 AM

Two choices for replacement- Contact the retailer or Asus about an RMA.
I would say the Corsair PSU is probably OK but the Mobo is most likely toast since is shorted to the case.
Are you going to use the Onboard graphics?
Tip: READ the Mobo manual before attempting assy. and ALWAYS do a new build On The Bench prior to install the hardware into the case.

didntknowthis · 08-23-2009, 12:02 PM

Well i was about to use the integrated gpu for about 3-4 months untill i will get the money for pci card.

Ofc i read the manual of the mobo, look what it said:

"Chapter 2.2.4 Screw Holes"
Place nine screws into the holes indicated by circles to secure the motherboard to the chasis. Do not overtighten the screws! Doing so can damage the motherboard. Placee the I/O side towards the rear of the chassis"

As you can see...it says nothing about the standoffs. Oh and i hate those guyz they didn't gave me the manual for the chassis..didn't know what those standoffs screws were ..i thought they are simple screws :((
Now i'm all screwed :(

**Tyree** · 08-23-2009, 02:27 PM

Instructions on placement and installation of the stand-offs, as well as the case wiring, "should" have been included with the case.
My reference to reading the Mobo manual was a general reference.

Dblanchard1278 · 08-23-2009, 02:49 PM

But you did get the stand offs right? I know all cases have them metal or plastic (I hate the plastic ones, such a pain.)

**wrench97** · 08-23-2009, 04:56 PM

Set it up outside of the case following the instructions here do not skip any steps> How to Bench Test Your System

didntknowthis · 08-24-2009, 03:26 AM

Here comes 3 pics with the mobo: before , after and an after(close up look). Can someone tell me if that short could have damaged my cpu or ram ? or can u identify another cooked element on the mobo? this one in the center near the integrated gpu is the only cookie i saw on it...

I also want to know if the hdd, cpu or ram were damaged ..can they fry the mobo i'm gonna buy again ?

didntknowthis · 08-24-2009, 03:29 AM

And here's the overall pic after the event

**wrench97** · 08-24-2009, 01:17 PM

Yea that's burnt most likely the solder joint on the bottom of that capacitor shorted on the case and burnt the trace, again most likely the other components are ok but you won't know for sure until you put them in another board.

didntknowthis · 11-07-2009, 11:01 AM

The mobo burnt....psu burnt 3 days later in a test... they rma the psu ..but i had to buy the mobo again..now it's all set

**wrench97** · 11-07-2009, 11:15 AM

Good to hear you have it up and running.

08-23-2009, 10:40 AM	#1 (permalink)
didntknowthis Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8 OS: xp sp3	Any hope for my new pc ? Well..first of all i was building a new pc: CPU: AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition 3.10 GHz skt AM3 box Mobo:Asus M4A78T-E RAM: Corsair 2GB 1333MHz DDR3 CL9 DHX Dual Channel Kit HDD: Hard disk Samsung 320GB SATA-II 7200RPM 16MB NCQ SpinPoint F1 Series PSU: Corsair CMPSU-550VX Case: Aplus Monolize II Case fan: AKASA AK-274CB-4BLS Sony DVD WR To cut it off quickly i'll say exactly how i managed shortcircuit my mobo. After installing the cpu on the mother board..then hdd,psu, case fans and dvd on the case, i wanted to install my motherboard into the case. Sice it was my first time building a pc, i didn't knew i needed metal screw standoffs. My case didn't have a manual :\| . So, I thought this mobo doesn't need any standoffs -omg i'm so idiot (my old pc had some other kind of metal standoffs that looked like a hump and that were inserted into little holes in the case) ... i just used only 4 screws to get the mobo intact on the case...(how idiot i am !!!!). After powering it on the case fan led powered up one second and than the system turned off..no boot screen no beeps no nothing! then i smelled something weird ..i thought it was the case fan so i removed all peripherials and turnd it again with no effect...only the cpu cooler moving very slowly ...so the psu fan ..so i turned it off again ... and then checked it again and did another last try...to sum up: 3 desperate tries to resuscitate my dearest mobo.. Well this was it :(( my new pc is dead within a second I packed the system and i m waiting for an expert to come tommorrow to measure the voltages...but meanwhile i want to know what should i expect... After inspecting the mobo i saw a small circuit with another color than others...so i think that got fried...i know there is no hope for this mobo ..it's toasted But i want to know at least if anything else did get fried in this process: did the cpu suffered (i believe so :( ) ? are RAM, case fans, hdd, dvd and psu alright ? Is there anyhope so i can't get a new mobo from the guarantee certificate? ( i want to put the screw standoffs like they should be before going with the system to the dealer..i want to make it look alright and convince them the mobo had a fault :P ) Any suggests/recommends/advices are wellcome..and sice i'm an idiot everyone should know ...so u can even swear me if u think this will repair my mobo :-".. ok i'm being sarcastic ... I REALLY NEED HELP .. thanks guys

08-23-2009, 11:33 AM	#2 (permalink)
avibitto Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 52 OS: vista	Re: Any hope for my new pc ? can u picture the "fried component"? have u noticed any leds are on after the first or second try?

08-23-2009, 11:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
didntknowthis Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8 OS: xp sp3	Re: Any hope for my new pc ? the green led on the motherboard was lighting every time i was powering it on...but the circuit with another color on the mobo looks very frightening

08-23-2009, 11:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,525 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Any hope for my new pc ? Two choices for replacement- Contact the retailer or Asus about an RMA. I would say the Corsair PSU is probably OK but the Mobo is most likely toast since is shorted to the case. Are you going to use the Onboard graphics? Tip: READ the Mobo manual before attempting assy. and ALWAYS do a new build On The Bench prior to install the hardware into the case. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

08-23-2009, 12:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
didntknowthis Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8 OS: xp sp3	Re: Any hope for my new pc ? Well i was about to use the integrated gpu for about 3-4 months untill i will get the money for pci card. Ofc i read the manual of the mobo, look what it said: "Chapter 2.2.4 Screw Holes" Place nine screws into the holes indicated by circles to secure the motherboard to the chasis. Do not overtighten the screws! Doing so can damage the motherboard. Placee the I/O side towards the rear of the chassis" As you can see...it says nothing about the standoffs. Oh and i hate those guyz they didn't gave me the manual for the chassis..didn't know what those standoffs screws were ..i thought they are simple screws :(( Now i'm all screwed :( Last edited by didntknowthis; 08-23-2009 at 12:04 PM.

08-23-2009, 02:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tyree Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,525 OS: XP Pro-7RC-Mandriva My System	Re: Any hope for my new pc ? Instructions on placement and installation of the stand-offs, as well as the case wiring, "should" have been included with the case. My reference to reading the Mobo manual was a general reference. __________________ Posting your PC specs will help us to help you quicker and more efficiently.

08-23-2009, 02:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dblanchard1278 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 113 OS: Win Xp Pro (SP3)-Vista home premium 64	Re: Any hope for my new pc ? But you did get the stand offs right? I know all cases have them metal or plastic (I hate the plastic ones, such a pain.)

08-23-2009, 04:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,483 OS: Win7	Re: Any hope for my new pc ? Set it up outside of the case following the instructions here do not skip any steps> How to Bench Test Your System __________________ Power Supply and Selection

08-24-2009, 01:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,483 OS: Win7	Re: Any hope for my new pc ? Yea that's burnt most likely the solder joint on the bottom of that capacitor shorted on the case and burnt the trace, again most likely the other components are ok but you won't know for sure until you put them in another board. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

11-07-2009, 11:01 AM	#12 (permalink)
didntknowthis Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8 OS: xp sp3	Re: Any hope for my new pc ? The mobo burnt....psu burnt 3 days later in a test... they rma the psu ..but i had to buy the mobo again..now it's all set

11-07-2009, 11:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,483 OS: Win7	Re: Any hope for my new pc ? Good to hear you have it up and running. __________________ Power Supply and Selection