I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible

bishopssix · 10-06-2008, 07:45 PM

It's in the picture I think that's the info the things I was looking at installing are these.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133232
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115036
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227269
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148332

If any of those won't work then please give me a referral to some that will, sorry to bother you, but I really want to get warhammer working.

**magnethead** · 10-07-2008, 11:52 AM

google says it's a socket 754 K8? What does the CPU tab of CPUZ say?

bishopssix · 10-07-2008, 11:56 AM

CPUZ CPU tab is in this picture.

Cobracon · 10-07-2008, 12:32 PM

Your motherboard only supports Socket 754 CPUs:

http://www.fic.com.tw/product/mother...D/K8MC51G.aspx

which are obsolete, but a few are still available (new) online and on eBay. Any of them will be a bottleneck to modern gameplay.

The video card will plug into your board according to the website noted above, but if your current PSU is the one supplied with the rest of the computer, it's probably under-powered.

The e8500 CPU will not work because it requires a Socket 775 motherboard and proper support.

The RAM won't work, it's DDR2 and your motherboard only supports DDR.

The external HDD will plug into your board (USB 2.0), but it won't enhance your performance from a gaming standpoint.

bishopssix · 10-07-2008, 12:36 PM

K, this is probably a stupid question but could I buy a new motherboard for the computer I have and install it that it'd work w/ those things, but w/ the rest of the current set up I got, I can't afford an entirely new computer

Cobracon · 10-07-2008, 01:03 PM

Is that what I fondly refer to as a 'close and play' computer?? That is, a name brand, all-in-one, ready to go unit. Like Compaq, Gateway, eMachines, HP, etc.

The reason I ask, many of those have odd-ball mounting points for the motherboard, and as a result an aftermarket mobo won't mount because the mounting holes don't line up. Yours may be fine.

Also, how about posting your computer specs in 'User CP', or your next reply. Specifics are required, model #'s, part #'s, etc.

bishopssix · 10-07-2008, 01:06 PM

I didn't fully understand that so this probably won't be the right answer, but it's a T3410 eMachines computer.

Cobracon · 10-07-2008, 01:37 PM

I found your computer:

http://www.emachines.com/products/pr...tml?prod=T3410

but have no idea if an aftermarket motherboard will mount in the case.

The list you made for your 1st post is just about a whole computer. Going with your initial suggestions and expanding them a little, you need:

motherboard
CPU
PSU (eMachines OEM power supplies are NOTORIOUS for being weak)
RAM
GPU
case (if yours won't accept the new board)

{I hope someone that can answer the mobo mounting question jumps in at any time.}

Your keyboard, mouse, and hard drive will work if the new board accepts the same connections as your current components. Your monitor will work. The CD/DVD writer in your eMachines should work in a new case (if you need to buy one).

A 'barebones' computer might be the way to go, but they usually lack some key components (like the Operating System), and if you're not careful you'll end up with a not very desireable component or two included with the package.

I'm beginning to paint a pretty dismal picture, huh??

bishopssix · 10-07-2008, 01:42 PM

How much is this looking at costing?

**wrench97** · 10-07-2008, 01:43 PM

Emachines usually use a standard ATX or mAtx Motherboard how many expansion slot does yours have?
One word of note though it's usually just worth it to buy a cheap case and not have the problems of front panel wiring and fitting the board. > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147057

Also if you change the motherboard you will need a new copy of Windows if yours is the OEM copy supplied with the pc according to the EULA > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116485

Will will also need at least a 650w power supply for the 8800GT. > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9005&Tpk=650tx

Motherboard > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128347

bishopssix · 10-07-2008, 02:02 PM

I dunno how many expansion slots it has, I know only have room for 2 ram sticks....I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to building pcs

**wrench97** · 10-07-2008, 02:18 PM

Expansion slots are where add in cards like video cards, Modems Etc. would plug into the board and stick through the rear of the case Atx boards have at least 5 slots while mAtx have a maximum of 4 it's an easy way to determine the size of the board without measuring it with a ruler.

Cobracon · 10-07-2008, 02:20 PM

Post #4 has a link to the motherboard.

bishopssix · 10-07-2008, 02:33 PM

http://www.frys.com/product/5748332

What about this, will that run as good as what I would end up building with those parts?

**wrench97** · 10-07-2008, 02:36 PM

That's a micro(mAtx, uAtx) if you want a gaming rig you'll need a bigger case to fit the video card and keep it from overheating.

bishopssix · 10-07-2008, 02:38 PM

I ussually just leave the case open next to my fan, that wouldn't work?

prudhoc1 · 10-07-2008, 02:40 PM

That PC you just posted would be a good gamer, with 5GB ram and a Quad Phenom, the Video could use a tiny upgrade...but could run cod4 on high. That system is refurbed but, it shouldn't make a difference.
and for 599$, you can't find much better.
And you did say you weren't to savvy when building a PC, this could be the best buy.

**wrench97** · 10-07-2008, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bishopssix

http://www.frys.com/product/5748332

What about this, will that run as good as what I would end up building with those parts?

9300 GE is a very low end video card and to upgrade it you'll still have to upgrade the power supply.

bishopssix · 10-07-2008, 02:41 PM

So it'd end up costing more than the 906 I'd figured up with the things I posted/y'all posted before in the end?

**wrench97** · 10-07-2008, 02:54 PM

And it won't be as good a system as the E8500,

Here's a budget gamer I did last night add your DVD/CD drive or pick up a new one for an extra $25

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...5036&Tpk=E8500 E8500 $189.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128337 GA-EP35-DS3L $84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145590 2 x 1Gig $37.99 $13.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130397 9800GT $124.99 $20.00
http://www.provantage.com/corsair-cm...x~7CSMC05F.htm 650tx $86.38 $20.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119106 case $49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116485 Vista HP $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136073 WD 500Gig $69.99

$744.31 $53.00

$691.31

10-07-2008, 11:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,570 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible google says it's a socket 754 K8? What does the CPU tab of CPUZ say? __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System

10-07-2008, 12:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Cobracon Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Roosterpoot, MS; US of A Posts: 62 OS: XP Pro SP3 & Win 7 RC My System	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible Your motherboard only supports Socket 754 CPUs: http://www.fic.com.tw/product/mother...D/K8MC51G.aspx which are obsolete, but a few are still available (new) online and on eBay. Any of them will be a bottleneck to modern gameplay. The video card will plug into your board according to the website noted above, but if your current PSU is the one supplied with the rest of the computer, it's probably under-powered. The e8500 CPU will not work because it requires a Socket 775 motherboard and proper support. The RAM won't work, it's DDR2 and your motherboard only supports DDR. The external HDD will plug into your board (USB 2.0), but it won't enhance your performance from a gaming standpoint. __________________ *Have you scanned the RAM timings for Operator's Headspace?? Too much real estate between the audio collectors will prevent proper operation of your computer.......B.Lowe*

10-07-2008, 12:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
bishopssix Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 33 OS: XP	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible K, this is probably a stupid question but could I buy a new motherboard for the computer I have and install it that it'd work w/ those things, but w/ the rest of the current set up I got, I can't afford an entirely new computer __________________ As the great Arcturus Mengsk said of the terran race so shall I. "For we shall win through, no matter the cost!"

10-07-2008, 01:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cobracon Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Roosterpoot, MS; US of A Posts: 62 OS: XP Pro SP3 & Win 7 RC My System	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible Is that what I fondly refer to as a 'close and play' computer?? That is, a name brand, all-in-one, ready to go unit. Like Compaq, Gateway, eMachines, HP, etc. The reason I ask, many of those have odd-ball mounting points for the motherboard, and as a result an aftermarket mobo won't mount because the mounting holes don't line up. Yours may be fine. Also, how about posting your computer specs in 'User CP', or your next reply. Specifics are required, model #'s, part #'s, etc. __________________ *Have you scanned the RAM timings for Operator's Headspace?? Too much real estate between the audio collectors will prevent proper operation of your computer.......B.Lowe*

10-07-2008, 01:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
bishopssix Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 33 OS: XP	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible I didn't fully understand that so this probably won't be the right answer, but it's a T3410 eMachines computer. __________________ As the great Arcturus Mengsk said of the terran race so shall I. "For we shall win through, no matter the cost!"

10-07-2008, 01:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cobracon Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Roosterpoot, MS; US of A Posts: 62 OS: XP Pro SP3 & Win 7 RC My System	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible I found your computer: http://www.emachines.com/products/pr...tml?prod=T3410 but have no idea if an aftermarket motherboard will mount in the case. The list you made for your 1st post is just about a whole computer. Going with your initial suggestions and expanding them a little, you need: motherboard CPU PSU (eMachines OEM power supplies are NOTORIOUS for being weak) RAM GPU case (if yours won't accept the new board) {I hope someone that can answer the mobo mounting question jumps in at any time.} Your keyboard, mouse, and hard drive will work if the new board accepts the same connections as your current components. Your monitor will work. The CD/DVD writer in your eMachines should work in a new case (if you need to buy one). A 'barebones' computer might be the way to go, but they usually lack some key components (like the Operating System), and if you're not careful you'll end up with a not very desireable component or two included with the package. I'm beginning to paint a pretty dismal picture, huh?? __________________ *Have you scanned the RAM timings for Operator's Headspace?? Too much real estate between the audio collectors will prevent proper operation of your computer.......B.Lowe* Last edited by Cobracon; 10-07-2008 at 01:39 PM.

10-07-2008, 01:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
bishopssix Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 33 OS: XP	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible How much is this looking at costing? __________________ As the great Arcturus Mengsk said of the terran race so shall I. "For we shall win through, no matter the cost!"

10-07-2008, 01:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,265 OS: Win7	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible Emachines usually use a standard ATX or mAtx Motherboard how many expansion slot does yours have? One word of note though it's usually just worth it to buy a cheap case and not have the problems of front panel wiring and fitting the board. > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147057 Also if you change the motherboard you will need a new copy of Windows if yours is the OEM copy supplied with the pc according to the EULA > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116485 Will will also need at least a 650w power supply for the 8800GT. > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9005&Tpk=650tx Motherboard > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128347 __________________ Power Supply and Selection

10-07-2008, 02:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
bishopssix Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 33 OS: XP	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible I dunno how many expansion slots it has, I know only have room for 2 ram sticks....I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to building pcs __________________ As the great Arcturus Mengsk said of the terran race so shall I. "For we shall win through, no matter the cost!"

10-07-2008, 02:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,265 OS: Win7	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible Expansion slots are where add in cards like video cards, Modems Etc. would plug into the board and stick through the rear of the case Atx boards have at least 5 slots while mAtx have a maximum of 4 it's an easy way to determine the size of the board without measuring it with a ruler. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

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Cobracon Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Roosterpoot, MS; US of A Posts: 62 OS: XP Pro SP3 & Win 7 RC My System	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible Post #4 has a link to the motherboard. __________________ *Have you scanned the RAM timings for Operator's Headspace?? Too much real estate between the audio collectors will prevent proper operation of your computer.......B.Lowe*

10-07-2008, 02:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
bishopssix Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 33 OS: XP	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible http://www.frys.com/product/5748332 What about this, will that run as good as what I would end up building with those parts? __________________ As the great Arcturus Mengsk said of the terran race so shall I. "For we shall win through, no matter the cost!"

10-07-2008, 02:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,265 OS: Win7	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible That's a micro(mAtx, uAtx) if you want a gaming rig you'll need a bigger case to fit the video card and keep it from overheating. __________________ Power Supply and Selection

10-07-2008, 02:38 PM	#16 (permalink)
bishopssix Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 33 OS: XP	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible I ussually just leave the case open next to my fan, that wouldn't work? __________________ As the great Arcturus Mengsk said of the terran race so shall I. "For we shall win through, no matter the cost!"

10-07-2008, 02:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
prudhoc1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Lower Sackville, Nova Scotia Posts: 149 OS: XP SP2 , Vista Premium My System	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible That PC you just posted would be a good gamer, with 5GB ram and a Quad Phenom, the Video could use a tiny upgrade...but could run cod4 on high. That system is refurbed but, it shouldn't make a difference. and for 599$, you can't find much better. And you did say you weren't to savvy when building a PC, this could be the best buy. __________________ http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/k...een040-1-1.jpg

10-07-2008, 02:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
bishopssix Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 33 OS: XP	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible So it'd end up costing more than the 906 I'd figured up with the things I posted/y'all posted before in the end? __________________ As the great Arcturus Mengsk said of the terran race so shall I. "For we shall win through, no matter the cost!"

10-07-2008, 02:54 PM	#20 (permalink)
wrench97 Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania Posts: 18,265 OS: Win7	Re: I wanna upgrade but I dunno if it's compatible And it won't be as good a system as the E8500, Here's a budget gamer I did last night add your DVD/CD drive or pick up a new one for an extra $25 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...5036&Tpk=E8500 E8500 $189.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128337 GA-EP35-DS3L $84.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145590 2 x 1Gig $37.99 $13.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130397 9800GT $124.99 $20.00 http://www.provantage.com/corsair-cm...x~7CSMC05F.htm 650tx $86.38 $20.00 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119106 case $49.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832116485 Vista HP $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136073 WD 500Gig $69.99 $744.31 $53.00 $691.31 __________________ Power Supply and Selection Last edited by wrench97; 10-07-2008 at 02:57 PM.