Overclocking options disabled

Couly · 07-25-2008, 01:28 AM

Hi I bought a brand new Gigabyte GA-Q35M-S2, Q35 mobo. The cpu frequency is disabled and even when I do ctrl F1 I still can't overclock. Is it something to do with this new Intel AMT ? or power saving ? I really need to overclock my quad, because I have a GTX280 and not getting the most out of it. Thanks for any help.

Couly · 07-25-2008, 08:14 AM

Hi There

~~OMGmissinglink~~ · 07-27-2008, 09:35 AM

Post what Quad CPU # is.

Couly · 07-28-2008, 12:36 AM

hi my quad is Q6600. I think it's the mobo

~~OMGmissinglink~~ · 07-28-2008, 01:08 AM

Q6600 FSB (MHz) 1066 your probably not going to OC'd enough that you will notice, Quad w/ FSB (MHz) 1333's are OC'ers..

Post installed ram PC2-4200, PC2-5300, PC2-6400?

lazareth1 · 07-28-2008, 02:17 AM

Actually, the Q6600 was famous for it's overclocking capabilities due to the B3 stepping before the yorkfield core came out. Some ppl got it to 3.7Ghz on air cooling and more on watercooling.

I suspect that it's something to do with the BIOS. Double check the mobo's manual again.

~~OMGmissinglink~~ · 07-28-2008, 11:00 AM

Did those some ppl that posted such OC' speeds post time it took render the cpu unuseable?

OC'ing requires a mobo that supports voltage bumps without damaging the mobo, qual, PSU, extra HSF & or other cooling means, ram that can achieve FSB.. by the time you spend the extra $$$ on those componets you can buy a faster cpu that you don't require OC'ing !

wrench97 · 07-28-2008, 12:27 PM

The P35 board and the Q6600 are known good Overclockers, however the Q35 is not an board you can overclock I believe it has to do with the onboard video chips.

**linderman** · 07-28-2008, 01:37 PM

most any board that has onboard video is not an overclocking board / but instead they are budget boards or office stable boards

read your motherboard manual ....... if there are any overclocking settings they will be listed there

I never found the Q6600 to be any wizard at overclocking ????? I was darn happy to get one stable and orthos stable 2 hours at 3.2 ghz they will go higher / but not stable in my experience ......... just being able to boot into windows is a FAR cry from stable overclock

~~OMGmissinglink~~ · 07-28-2008, 01:48 PM

IMHO I doubt your Quad cpu is using full potential, w / GTX280 GPU card, the GPU card is processing most the graphic output, the weak link in this pc would be 32bit OS limiting the amount of ram you can use.

Download core temp, you can install on your task bar check the Quad processor load usage.

http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

lazareth1 · 07-28-2008, 06:48 PM

Well the Q6600 was a huge step forward for overclocking due to the fact it was the first CPU to use the Intel B3 stepping. A lot of enthusiasts still want theses old kentsfield CPUs because you can up the multiplier to reach higher speeds unlike the yorkfield CPU. Hence why even though they are an older core, they are still in high demand.

Google 'Q6600 overclocking B3' and you can see what I'm ranting on about

~~OMGmissinglink~~ · 07-28-2008, 07:06 PM

What use is OC'ing the cpu if it isn't using 100% load set on stock clock speed. B3 stepping core runs hotter than C0 stepping cpu..

Most programs can't use 100% on dual cores thus there is no sinse in OC'ing the Quad.

lazareth1 · 07-28-2008, 07:12 PM

I take it you are talking about multi threaded programs? yeah I agree but you're still gonna see a preformance boost. Why? because all the cores are overclocked so even if a program uses 1 core total, then it's gonna run faster as all cores at clocked higher than stock speed. Nothing to do with the number of cores you have and multi threading.

**linderman** · 07-28-2008, 07:39 PM

it only helps to "add" more cpu speed "if" you can max at your cpu at stock speeds ......

lazareth1 · 07-28-2008, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linderman

it only helps to "add" more cpu speed "if" you can max at your cpu at stock speeds ......

A CPU is never using 100% a lot of the time. Even in highest demanding games. it jus 'peaks' at 100% and probably sit at 40-50%. And yes overclocking will improve its gaming performance. even sitting at these levels.

So if he does have a GTX280 he would definetly benifit from OCing the CPU. If he was using the computer for general websurfing etc, then no he should just leave it stock but that's not the case here.

Couly · 07-29-2008, 12:32 AM

I used to get my Q6600 to 3.Ghz but now I can't do it. I'm not shelling out hundreds of euro for a cpu that I already had! (so to speak).

**linderman** · 07-29-2008, 03:33 AM

my brother's stock E8400 based computer during intense multi player scenes never exceeds more than 75% cpu usuage and never hits 100% even for a split second, I surely dont see how overclocking can possibly increase performance

~~OMGmissinglink~~ · 07-29-2008, 01:01 PM

The processor in gaming OC'ing isn't one bit of help the GTX280 GPU card does the most work.. the GPU has to use a certain amount of cpu usage not enough to make OC'ing worth risking frying the cpu... your limited by the amount of ram you can install using 32 bit OS ... thus the PC's memory cannot keep up with the gpu card or cpu.

07-25-2008, 01:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
Couly Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 41 OS: Vista 32 bit	Overclocking options disabled Hi I bought a brand new Gigabyte GA-Q35M-S2, Q35 mobo. The cpu frequency is disabled and even when I do ctrl F1 I still can't overclock. Is it something to do with this new Intel AMT ? or power saving ? I really need to overclock my quad, because I have a GTX280 and not getting the most out of it. Thanks for any help.

07-25-2008, 08:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
Couly Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 41 OS: Vista 32 bit	Re: Overclocking options disabled Hi There

07-27-2008, 09:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
~~OMGmissinglink~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,535 OS: XP Pro sp2 My System	Re: Overclocking options disabled Post what Quad CPU # is.

07-28-2008, 12:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
Couly Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 41 OS: Vista 32 bit	Re: Overclocking options disabled hi my quad is Q6600. I think it's the mobo

07-28-2008, 01:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
~~OMGmissinglink~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,535 OS: XP Pro sp2 My System	Re: Overclocking options disabled Q6600 FSB (MHz) 1066 your probably not going to OC'd enough that you will notice, Quad w/ FSB (MHz) 1333's are OC'ers.. Post installed ram PC2-4200, PC2-5300, PC2-6400?

07-28-2008, 02:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
lazareth1 Tech Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hong Kong, previously Fife in Bonnie Scotland Posts: 1,051 OS: Vista SP1, Ultimate My System	Re: Overclocking options disabled Actually, the Q6600 was famous for it's overclocking capabilities due to the B3 stepping before the yorkfield core came out. Some ppl got it to 3.7Ghz on air cooling and more on watercooling. I suspect that it's something to do with the BIOS. Double check the mobo's manual again. __________________ "Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted" JAFFA KREE!! Peace Through Power!!

07-28-2008, 11:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
~~OMGmissinglink~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,535 OS: XP Pro sp2 My System	Re: Overclocking options disabled Did those some ppl that posted such OC' speeds post time it took render the cpu unuseable? OC'ing requires a mobo that supports voltage bumps without damaging the mobo, qual, PSU, extra HSF & or other cooling means, ram that can achieve FSB.. by the time you spend the extra $$$ on those componets you can buy a faster cpu that you don't require OC'ing !

07-28-2008, 12:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
wrench97 Tech Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,306 OS: XPSP2	Re: Overclocking options disabled The P35 board and the Q6600 are known good Overclockers, however the Q35 is not an board you can overclock I believe it has to do with the onboard video chips. __________________

07-28-2008, 01:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 14,022 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: Overclocking options disabled most any board that has onboard video is not an overclocking board / but instead they are budget boards or office stable boards read your motherboard manual ....... if there are any overclocking settings they will be listed there I never found the Q6600 to be any wizard at overclocking ????? I was darn happy to get one stable and orthos stable 2 hours at 3.2 ghz they will go higher / but not stable in my experience ......... just being able to boot into windows is a FAR cry from stable overclock __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent.

07-28-2008, 01:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
~~OMGmissinglink~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,535 OS: XP Pro sp2 My System	Re: Overclocking options disabled IMHO I doubt your Quad cpu is using full potential, w / GTX280 GPU card, the GPU card is processing most the graphic output, the weak link in this pc would be 32bit OS limiting the amount of ram you can use. Download core temp, you can install on your task bar check the Quad processor load usage. http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

07-28-2008, 06:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
lazareth1 Tech Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hong Kong, previously Fife in Bonnie Scotland Posts: 1,051 OS: Vista SP1, Ultimate My System	Re: Overclocking options disabled Well the Q6600 was a huge step forward for overclocking due to the fact it was the first CPU to use the Intel B3 stepping. A lot of enthusiasts still want theses old kentsfield CPUs because you can up the multiplier to reach higher speeds unlike the yorkfield CPU. Hence why even though they are an older core, they are still in high demand. Google 'Q6600 overclocking B3' and you can see what I'm ranting on about __________________ "Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted" JAFFA KREE!! Peace Through Power!!

07-28-2008, 07:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
~~OMGmissinglink~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,535 OS: XP Pro sp2 My System	Re: Overclocking options disabled What use is OC'ing the cpu if it isn't using 100% load set on stock clock speed. B3 stepping core runs hotter than C0 stepping cpu.. Most programs can't use 100% on dual cores thus there is no sinse in OC'ing the Quad.

07-28-2008, 07:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
lazareth1 Tech Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hong Kong, previously Fife in Bonnie Scotland Posts: 1,051 OS: Vista SP1, Ultimate My System	Re: Overclocking options disabled I take it you are talking about multi threaded programs? yeah I agree but you're still gonna see a preformance boost. Why? because all the cores are overclocked so even if a program uses 1 core total, then it's gonna run faster as all cores at clocked higher than stock speed. Nothing to do with the number of cores you have and multi threading. __________________ "Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted" JAFFA KREE!! Peace Through Power!!

07-28-2008, 07:39 PM	#14 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 14,022 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: Overclocking options disabled it only helps to "add" more cpu speed "if" you can max at your cpu at stock speeds ...... __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent.

07-29-2008, 12:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
Couly Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 41 OS: Vista 32 bit	Re: Overclocking options disabled I used to get my Q6600 to 3.Ghz but now I can't do it. I'm not shelling out hundreds of euro for a cpu that I already had! (so to speak).

07-29-2008, 03:33 AM	#17 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 14,022 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: Overclocking options disabled my brother's stock E8400 based computer during intense multi player scenes never exceeds more than 75% cpu usuage and never hits 100% even for a split second, I surely dont see how overclocking can possibly increase performance __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent.

07-29-2008, 01:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
~~OMGmissinglink~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,535 OS: XP Pro sp2 My System	Re: Overclocking options disabled The processor in gaming OC'ing isn't one bit of help the GTX280 GPU card does the most work.. the GPU has to use a certain amount of cpu usage not enough to make OC'ing worth risking frying the cpu... your limited by the amount of ram you can install using 32 bit OS ... thus the PC's memory cannot keep up with the gpu card or cpu.