thehelped

Ok heres whats happenng. At fist i thought it would be real cool to get a new RAM card so i decided to open my PC to look what type of RAM card it is so i can get an other one exacty the same. so i leave the RAM card on my desk and left it. When i come back about 2 hours later, i put the RAM back in(same RAM stick as before) and close everything up. When i Open My PC i get a long BEEEP sound. So i figured it must be the RAM card since it was giving me motherboard failre beep code. Turns out it was the cause since i had put the stick the wrong way in. so i put it in the correct way. When i then opened my PC again thinking it was all good and top shape...I realize it never BOOTed...you can here the fans but no boot.Not knowing what to do, i tried everything i could find on forums and tried almost every way i could to fix it but no luck. I figured it is not my psu nor my RAM nor my video card since it did not fail on its own. I must of toched something...But i dont know, i might be wrong..HELP!

I Got a eMachines H5042
512 DDR2 RAM
ATI Radeon 1650X Graphics
Intel P4

thehelped

Come on guys i really do need help on this one please.

sorry for double post

dandenoth

Okay, you put a stick of RAM in backwards? Can I ask how you did this? I'm not trying to sound mean or anything, but RAM sticks are notched, and short of destructive force you can't put them in backwards.

Now, however, let's focus. According to your post, you have 512MB of DDR2. DDR2 is a very snotty memory. It likes being installed in -identical- pair, and if you're doing the whole dual channel hulaboo, it's gotta be in certain slots. What I would try FIRST is to swap slots with your ram stick(s) and see if that doesn't fix it.

However, the long BEEP is very troubling. That's the post beep, and depending on the Motherboard/BIOS those beeps have different meanings. The long one is pretty much the worst one, it means either it can't find the RAM or it can't find the CPU. I got this beep when I cooked my motherboard. It can also come from a shorted motherboard, a missing CPU, or a cooked CPU. Because it did not boot, this also tells me that something big is going on.

Now if you're worried, I apologize. But look at your motherboard, look for black marks or sniff around for strange smells, and then look at your CPU and see if any scorch marks stand out.

thehelped

ok thx for responding. I tried a coumple of things and would not come to think that it would be the cpu because i nerver toched it. I only have one RAM stick. I tried changing its slot but all it gave me was a 1 short 1 long beep. But i dont know if it would be the RAM since when i put it to the slot i found it in, no beeps. as for the mobod. i checked for any black marks or any signs of failure and it looked ok.


when i say i put it in bacwards i mean:


its supposed to be in this way: <-front--------------------back->


and i put it in te way: <-back--------------------front->



I dont know if its supposed to make a different but my judging was yes since when i put it in *backwards* it gave me the beep.

dandenoth

Look at your motherboard again, and look for the BIOS chip. You'll know which one it is because it'll have a stick that says BIOS on it and what BIOS it uses. Tell me which BIOS that is.

10pmStalker

I had the same problem with my computer turning on with no boot.. It was my motherboard, sent it in for RMA and all is working perfect again.. just to let you know

thehelped

I saw a chip named BIOS 1. The brand s WinBond

dandenoth

I'm guessing it's an Intel Bios, judging that based on it being an Emachines, and I'm sorry to say this, but that POST beep sequence means something is wrong with the motherboard. There's a nice long article about it here: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000607.htm

thehelped

but it doesnt always give me the beep, only when i remove my RAM or i plce it in an other SLot. coud this still all be my Mother Board?

dandenoth

What does it do when it doesn't give you the beep?

thehelped

the power turns on and you can hear the fans but the moniter stays black.

wrench97

What is the model number of your Emachines?

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thehelped

Its an eMachines H 5042

i just bought a new RAM stick, im going to try it right now

wrench97

When you first discovered it was installed backwards and you reversed it was the PC on or off your first post isn't real clear on that point?
Your PC will hold a maximum if 2 1 Gig sticks and it is best to install it in pairs,
If while you have the side off see if there is a name and model number on the motherboard.

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thehelped

When i put the RAM bacwads, i had turned on te power and its after it gave me the beep that i knew it wa backwards.

As for the new RAM....no luck, put in a 1GB RAM card. it doesnt beep but my comp still doesnt boot.


the model of Mother Board is a
Micro-Star
model: MS 7172

thehelped

so we know ts not the RAM

wrench97

When you took it back out and turned it around was the pc turned off and unplugged, or did you think it didn't start and just pulled the ram out and turned it around?

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thehelped

no i shut and unplugged the pc before turning the RAM card around

wrench97

Your motherboard has 2 ram slots correct?
Have you tried the new 1gig stick in both slots?
Is the new stick compatible with your pc?

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thehelped

Yea it has two slots. I first tried my new RAM stick(witch is compatible for my PC since i talked with costumer service where i bought it) in the slot that did not work for my old one...all