Simple question...

SeanSpade · 07-14-2008, 11:26 AM

Will the fact that I am buying OEM parts mean that they will operate differently?
Like I can't overclock my PC right now, because it's a pre built gateway and someone referred to that as OEM...
So if I buy a Mobo CPU combo from say Tigerdirect, can it still do all the overclocking stuff?

Thanks for the help...

**peterhuang913** · 07-14-2008, 11:49 AM

No. OEM and Retail, you get the same parts.

I've never heard of someone refering to a branded PC as OEM, but you call it pre-built.

~~OMGmissinglink~~ · 07-14-2008, 11:54 AM

Guessing if you bought the PC from Gateway you have the manufacture warrenty. 1 year

Only difference between OEM vs Retail componets OEM's warrenty 30 day, Retails warrenty can very 1 year or more depending on the spacific componet.

Most Branded PC's do not include much Overclocking features in bios.

Simple answer: OEM vs Retail should operate equal as well.

SeanSpade · 07-14-2008, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGmissinglink

Guessing if you bought the PC from Gateway you have the manufacture warrenty. 1 year

Only difference between OEM vs Retail componets OEM's warrenty 30 day, Retails warrenty can very 1 year or more depending on the spacific componet.

Most Branded PC's do not include much Overclocking features in bios.

Simple answer: OEM vs Retail should operate equal as well.

What im saying is my multiplier on my mobo is locked.
I asked in a previous thread and someone said "is your pc pre built?"
I said yes and he said "OEm stuff don't overclock..."
So I'm sayin i want to buy a mobo from tiger but it says that dreaded word OEm on it.
Will it let me overclock?

Asus p5e somethin or other...

~~OMGmissinglink~~ · 07-14-2008, 12:14 PM

OEM componets can be overclocked this is dependent on the processors overclock ability, some processors come with locked multipliers, these usually won't overclock enough you will notice! if the cpu's multiplyer is unlocked these are the only type cpu's that overclock to notice any difference. If the multiplier is locked I won't suggest even attempting replacing the mobo.

Check on processor specks download: Post your cpu info

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

wrench97 · 07-14-2008, 04:08 PM

A branded or OEM PC IE Dell HP Gateway have limited Bios settings to ease warranty support and so you can't overclock to protect the OEM on warranty claims.
Components sold as OEM usually come with a reduced warranty no accessories, cables
software that the full retail product comes with and you get a reduced price.
They will function the same as the retail version just don't have all the packaging and fluff,

SeanSpade · 07-14-2008, 05:30 PM

Thank you, now does anyone know a good intel cpu to oc?

~~OMGmissinglink~~ · 07-14-2008, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanSpade

Thank you, now does anyone know a good intel cpu to oc?

Yes, next question will an after market mobo slide in a Gateway case, ? post the mod # on your GW PC.

wrench97 · 07-14-2008, 05:39 PM

Price range? Q6600,E2200

SeanSpade · 07-15-2008, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGmissinglink

Yes, next question will an after market mobo slide in a Gateway case, ? post the mod # on your GW PC.

I don't know what this means. Thank you.

SeanSpade · 07-15-2008, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrench97

Price range? Q6600,E2200

Doesn't matter. I mean, I'll buy whatever OC's the most, so:

2.4 - oc's to 3.4 is better than

3.2 - oc's to 3.8.

Know what I'm saying, I'd rather have a more versatile CPU.

~~OMGmissinglink~~ · 07-15-2008, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanSpade

Doesn't matter. I mean, I'll buy whatever OC's the most, so:

2.4 - oc's to 3.4 is better than

3.2 - oc's to 3.8.

Know what I'm saying, I'd rather have a more versatile CPU.

Do you know overclocking shortens componets expected life usage! If you want 3.4 / 3.8ghz processor spend the extra $$$ your cpu will last longer. Why do you think processor manufactures only warrenty them aprox 3 years.. thats the expected range without problems meaning using the processor in its set ghz without overclocking it.

**linderman** · 07-15-2008, 07:30 PM

gateway uses standard atx cases you should be fine there

for the money I would say Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R and E8200 or E8400 CPU

The E8400 will overclock from its stock speed of 3.0ghz to 3.6ghz without the need of increasing the cpu voltage ......... the increase in cpu voltage is what has the potential to shorten the life span of the cpu depending how wild you get with that ?

~~OMGmissinglink~~ · 07-15-2008, 07:53 PM

Not all gateway case are standard atx, I asked him post GW mod # rule out issue, older gateway cases are btx.

**linderman** · 07-16-2008, 03:57 AM

I stand corrected

....... OMG is very correct ....... have to watch out for those nasty BTX cases ................ ewwwwwwww forgot about those nightmares ........

SeanSpade · 07-16-2008, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OMGmissinglink

Not all gateway case are standard atx, I asked him post GW mod # rule out issue, older gateway cases are btx.

Gateway gm 5664

SeanSpade · 07-16-2008, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by linderman

gateway uses standard atx cases you should be fine there

for the money I would say Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R and E8200 or E8400 CPU

The E8400 will overclock from its stock speed of 3.0ghz to 3.6ghz without the need of increasing the cpu voltage ......... the increase in cpu voltage is what has the potential to shorten the life span of the cpu depending how wild you get with that ?

Well, I looked at it, I would like to run SLI.
As I am a gamer and getting like 3 fps out of my favorite game..

~~OMGmissinglink~~ · 07-16-2008, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanSpade

Well, I looked at it, I would like to run SLI.
As I am a gamer and getting like 3 fps out of my favorite game..

If you want SLI configuration there are no mobo's that you can use with your GW case. IMHO SLI is wasted $$$
as a decent mid range gpu cards preform decently.

Post do you want to upgrade using your GW atx case / or you want build a new PC with a new atx case?

07-14-2008, 11:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
SeanSpade Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Connecticut, New Haven County Posts: 105 OS: Home Premium My System	Simple question... Will the fact that I am buying OEM parts mean that they will operate differently? Like I can't overclock my PC right now, because it's a pre built gateway and someone referred to that as OEM... So if I buy a Mobo CPU combo from say Tigerdirect, can it still do all the overclocking stuff? Thanks for the help... __________________ "Artists use lies to tell the truth, Politicians use lies to cover it up..."

07-14-2008, 11:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
peterhuang913 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 819 OS: XP Home SP2	Re: Simple question... No. OEM and Retail, you get the same parts. I've never heard of someone refering to a branded PC as OEM, but you call it pre-built.

07-14-2008, 11:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
~~OMGmissinglink~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,535 OS: XP Pro sp2 My System	Re: Simple question... Guessing if you bought the PC from Gateway you have the manufacture warrenty. 1 year Only difference between OEM vs Retail componets OEM's warrenty 30 day, Retails warrenty can very 1 year or more depending on the spacific componet. Most Branded PC's do not include much Overclocking features in bios. Simple answer: OEM vs Retail should operate equal as well.

07-14-2008, 12:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
~~OMGmissinglink~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,535 OS: XP Pro sp2 My System	Re: Simple question... OEM componets can be overclocked this is dependent on the processors overclock ability, some processors come with locked multipliers, these usually won't overclock enough you will notice! if the cpu's multiplyer is unlocked these are the only type cpu's that overclock to notice any difference. If the multiplier is locked I won't suggest even attempting replacing the mobo. Check on processor specks download: Post your cpu info http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php Last edited by OMGmissinglink : 07-14-2008 at 12:18 PM.

07-14-2008, 04:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
wrench97 Tech Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,410 OS: XPSP2	Re: Simple question... A branded or OEM PC IE Dell HP Gateway have limited Bios settings to ease warranty support and so you can't overclock to protect the OEM on warranty claims. Components sold as OEM usually come with a reduced warranty no accessories, cables software that the full retail product comes with and you get a reduced price. They will function the same as the retail version just don't have all the packaging and fluff, __________________

07-14-2008, 05:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
SeanSpade Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Connecticut, New Haven County Posts: 105 OS: Home Premium My System	Re: Simple question... Thank you, now does anyone know a good intel cpu to oc? __________________ "Artists use lies to tell the truth, Politicians use lies to cover it up..."

07-14-2008, 05:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
wrench97 Tech Hardware Team Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 3,410 OS: XPSP2	Re: Simple question... Price range? Q6600,E2200 __________________

07-15-2008, 07:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 14,055 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: Simple question... gateway uses standard atx cases you should be fine there for the money I would say Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R and E8200 or E8400 CPU The E8400 will overclock from its stock speed of 3.0ghz to 3.6ghz without the need of increasing the cpu voltage ......... the increase in cpu voltage is what has the potential to shorten the life span of the cpu depending how wild you get with that ? __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent. Last edited by linderman : 07-15-2008 at 07:32 PM.

07-15-2008, 07:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
~~OMGmissinglink~~ Troubled Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,535 OS: XP Pro sp2 My System	Re: Simple question... Not all gateway case are standard atx, I asked him post GW mod # rule out issue, older gateway cases are btx.

07-16-2008, 03:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 14,055 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: Simple question... I stand corrected ....... OMG is very correct ....... have to watch out for those nasty BTX cases ................ ewwwwwwww forgot about those nightmares ........ __________________ If you cant be polite and friendly; then please be silent.