SnowBum

Ok, I appreciate the help. Will work more on it tomorrow.

eneles

Like Doby said - the manual states that you can't run PC3200 RAM at FSB = 200 MHz.
Then, how is PC3200 RAM supposed to run at the correct speed???

Try putting the jumpers back to FSB = 100 MHz.

Then, in BIOS >> Advanced:
Set "CPU host frequency" = Manual.
Actual frequency = 200 MHz.

DRAM frequency = Auto.

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Tried it, not working. :(




Thanks.

!I am Newb!

AMD has had some issues with American Megatrend built BIOS:
Reason: Unknown
reward for finding the reason: 10 000$

the real CPU speed IS 2.2 Ghz but for some reason of wich i cant even explain (and noone will) it is showing always half the speed. so you dont have to worry about that... the CPU speed IS 2.2 Ghz but the BIOS is registering 1.1 Ghz.

this is a problem that you dont really see with Megatrends but some has it and it does exist. they didnt even found the problem yet.

eneles

Set DRAM frequency = 200.

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Not working...


Thanks.

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if its not working call your manufacturer

SnowBum

Its a self built computer, the parts (which I previously had) doesn't seem to be compatible with my motherboard, that's what me and the gracious people here are trying to figure out how to get working. It only runs with the processor at half power.

Doby

Most times I have seen this (processor unable to run at rated speed) the processor was bad and I suspect thats the problem, however most times you can't even get into bios but you are able to do that just not windows.

I would be interested to see if you can boot from ubcd with the processor set at 200mhz with the jumper.

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

Download the iso, create the cd using nero or similar then boot from it and run the "StressCPU" test and see what happens, I will be suprized if you can boot to the cd.

I would also like to see if you can reinstall windows with it at 200mhz, my bet is it won't install. Sorry but I really can't see anything else wrong.

Reort back what you find I am interested in the outcome

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I went to that link and attempted to dl "Stress CPU" and it says 404 not found, do you have a direct link to what I should download? Thanks.

Doby

Go here

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html

Scroll down to "mirroe sites" and download the "iso" on the left from any of the sites.

Then read this on how to create the cd using nero and many other popular burn software

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/faq.html

Follow the instructions and create the ubcd from the iso image you downloaded.

Once you create this cd you can use any of the tools on it on any computer its a good tool to have

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I dont know if this helps at all but it might.

If you dont have it, download Everest Home and see if it lists the cpu as an OEM.

I tried to upgrade my cpu with a new/used one off ebay. After 3 of the same models, all three having the same problem, testing every single piece of hardware I am to one conclusion... The cpu, a OEM out of a Dell or like computer simply would not function right in my none Dell board. I know it sounds funny but thats he only possible answer I had left. See if you can track where your cpu came from. Just an idea. Good luck

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SnowBum

Ok, done. It didn't work (UBCD), and trying to reinstall windows didn't work either. Here's the message that pops up when I tried to reinstall windows.


A problem hgas been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

Invalid_Process_Attach_Attempt

If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen, restart your computer. If this screen appears again, follow these steps:

Check to make sure any new hardware or software is properly installed. If this is a new installation, ask your hardware or software manufacturer for any windows updates you might need.

If problems continue, disable or remove any newly installed hardware or software. Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use safe-mode to remove or disable components, restart your computer, press F8 to select "Advanced Startup Options, and then select safemode.

Technical Information: ***STOP: 0x00000005C0x823CADA8 0x8239c020 0x00000000 0x00000000


Downloaded it, doesn't say anything about the OEM that I can see.




Thanks guys.

Doby

Have a look in your bios and make sure there is no virus protection enabled if there is disable it, I had a look in your manual it don't appear you have a virus option but check anyway.

I looked up the error you posted error you posted and MS actually has a patch or update for that and it caused by certain anti virus programs or something or otherbut seeing as you get when booting from cd or installing windows no patch will work.

Return the processor I am convinced its bad

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Ok, no anti virus protection enabled in BIOS (none at all).



I did a bit of experimenting with the jumpers (I should have did that first off).


When my FSB is at 133MHz (both jumper caps all the way to the right) it runs at 1.47GHz.

When I put the FSB at 166MHz (both jumpcaps all the way left) it runs at 1.83GHz.
( ^ page 12 in manual)




After checking into the RAM issue (mentioned earlier in the thread) on page 6 there is a caution area. It says "Caution CPU at FSB 200MHz mode, it will not support DDR400".



So is it possible its not the processor but the RAM thats causing the problem? When I ordered these parts (Mobo and Processor) I just used the RAM I already had. (1 stick of 512mb PC3200 DDR400) I was planning on upgrading the ram to something faster (hopefully 2GB) as soon as I could afford it.


I don't know too much about computers, if the RAM is indeed the issue, what should I buy that could support my processor. If the DDR400 ram is the "fastest" I'd assume my MoBo isn't compatible with my processor?


Thanks.

Doby

This is the caution listed in the manual and its a bit misleading the way its worded, and I was confussed as well but then after rereading I understood it and had you under clock the ram as a test to be sure but even under clocking the ram did not help the processor run at its rated speed, I will try and explain,,,,,,,,,,

The true speed of your cpu is 400mhz but because the cpu is double (fsb X2)pumped the fsb is set 200 mhz either by jumper or in bios to get it to run at its true speed.

Now the misleading part,,,,,,,,, notice line 3, it means when the cpu is running at 400mhz as your should you cannot use ddr 200 or 266 ram, therefore you must use 400mhz/pc3200 ram as you are currently running.

Line one simpley means when running at 200mhz true or 100mhz fsb you cannot run 400mhz/pc3200 ram or instability could occur

Providing the processor number you listed is correct and this is not a 333mhz processor you will be able to run the pc3200 ram you now have and a fsb of 200mhz.

Are you saying the computer will boot to windows at this speed?

If so I think you have a 3000+ processor and not a 3200+, you should check the numbers on top the cpu again and repost them to make sure, this will requirer you to remove the heatsink and clean the cpu then reapply thermal paste.

I am sorry and I hate to put you thru all this but its either the wrong cpu we are trying to set up or the cpu will not run at its rated speed witch means its bad.

Snow you have to trust me on this, I have setup at least 100 of these socket A systems and I think one even with this board awhile back and I know we are not missing anything in the compatibility of parts or the bios setup

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^ Yes, the computer will boot to windows and run fine at 1.83GHz.

I took the Processor off again (as you suggested).

The number is: AXDA3200DKV4E (then a space here) 9500243270081


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