[SOLVED] computer will not turn on

mdelrossi1 · 06-14-2008, 02:22 PM

hello
I'm new to this place and recently my computer just crashed on me.

basically, it will not boot up, it won't even get to the opening motherboard splash screen...

I am using a MSI k8n Diamond motherboard and the D-LED indicator light shows:

RED | GREEN
---------------
GREEN | RED

which, according to the manual, says:

"Processor Initialization
This will show information regarding the processor (like
brand name, system bus, etc...)"

but it also says that if the processor is damaged or not installed properly than all of the D-LED lights will be red.

I see a no signal message on my monitor and get no other problem indicators. there is one beep when i turn it on, which is normal.

could this be a HD issue or a motherboard issue or something different entirely? I'm kind of in the dark and any help would be greatly apprciated

thanks in advance.

dai · 06-14-2008, 02:26 PM

what
video card
cpu
m/board
power supply
brand
wattage
are you running

mdelrossi1 · 06-14-2008, 10:42 PM

video card-
FG Tech BFGR78256GTXOC Geforce 7800GTX OC Overclocked 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card

CPU-
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Manchester 2000MHz HT 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor

Memory-
CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory

Case&Power Supply-
Antec LifeStyle SONATA II Piano Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450Watt SmartPower 2.0 ATX 12V V2.0 for AMD & Intel systems Power Supply

Motherboard-
MSI K8N Diamond Plus Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI X16 ATX AMD Motherboard

Ive been using this set up for about 2 years now and up until last night, everything seemed A-OK

dai · 06-15-2008, 12:23 AM

the psu has a max output of 410w combined 12 line amps are 32=available=24
see if you can borrow a quality 550+ to try in it with a min of 26a available on the 12v line

mdelrossi1 · 06-15-2008, 05:20 AM

would this have happened after 2 years of use? the computer has worked fine for that time with the current power supply unit.

mdelrossi1 · 06-15-2008, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdelrossi1

would this have happened after 2 years of use? the computer has worked fine for that time with the current power supply unit.

oh and it does power up.

dai · 06-15-2008, 07:27 PM

when you tax something near it's limits in the end something is going to give way
we always recommend buying case and psu as seperate items

mdelrossi1 · 06-15-2008, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dai

when you tax something near it's limits in the end something is going to give way
we always recommend buying case and psu as seperate items

do you think this would be a good PSU to try?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182030

sorry if my questions are stupid or annoying (it wouldn't be the first time

) but i am still kind of a beginner to troubleshooting and PC building in general

dai · 06-16-2008, 03:02 AM

no they are not a recommended brand it would do to check with but not to buy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...corsair%2b550w
see if you can borrow one to check with first

mdelrossi1 · 06-18-2008, 10:34 AM

cant find one to borrow...might have to buy...would you suggest PSU in previous post?

dai · 06-18-2008, 10:56 AM

yes it's top quality

mdelrossi1 · 06-23-2008, 02:07 PM

I used that power supply...no change in behaviour...HD mounts and works fine in a 3.5 external enclosure.

dai · 06-23-2008, 03:58 PM

when it is connected to the m/b can you see it listed correctly in the bios
if not try a new cable on it

mdelrossi1 · 06-23-2008, 04:04 PM

nothing comes up on my monitor. like i said earlier in the thread all i can see is a "no signal" message so i cannot read the bios.

dai · 06-23-2008, 04:22 PM

have a look through these
http://www.bosamar.com/K9N/faq.html#q5
http://www.bosamar.com/K9N/trouble.html
reseat and redo the paste on the cpu with some arctic silver
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm
are you still getting the single post beep

mdelrossi1 · 06-23-2008, 05:13 PM

well i cleared the CMOS and now i can see the bios.

new problem...I can boot up Windows with one RAM stick in there but I get an error message saying that there is limited virtual memory and instructs me to set up a paging file (the performance is also understandably very slow). when i put in the second RAM in I get a blue screen of death that only stays up for a second or so and i cannot read what it says. did the CMOS clear take away the settings for a second RAM stick? if so, how can i update that?

dai · 06-23-2008, 05:18 PM

run memtest on the ram 1 stick at a time with it in the slot closest to the cpu
http://www.memtest.org/

mdelrossi1 · 06-23-2008, 09:32 PM

I cannot get memtest to run...i tried using the USB thumb drive version and the ISO CD drive version and neither of them boot ... i either get a non bootable device message or i get nothing and it goes right to windows.

dai · 06-23-2008, 09:46 PM

have you set the bios to boot from cd first,before trying to boot from the cd

06-14-2008, 02:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
mdelrossi1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13 OS: Windows XP SP2	[SOLVED] computer will not turn on hello I'm new to this place and recently my computer just crashed on me. basically, it will not boot up, it won't even get to the opening motherboard splash screen... I am using a MSI k8n Diamond motherboard and the D-LED indicator light shows: RED \| GREEN --------------- GREEN \| RED which, according to the manual, says: "Processor Initialization This will show information regarding the processor (like brand name, system bus, etc...)" but it also says that if the processor is damaged or not installed properly than all of the D-LED lights will be red. I see a no signal message on my monitor and get no other problem indicators. there is one beep when i turn it on, which is normal. could this be a HD issue or a motherboard issue or something different entirely? I'm kind of in the dark and any help would be greatly apprciated thanks in advance.

06-14-2008, 02:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,900 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: computer will not turn on what video card cpu m/board power supply brand wattage are you running __________________

06-14-2008, 10:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
mdelrossi1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13 OS: Windows XP SP2	Re: computer will not turn on video card- FG Tech BFGR78256GTXOC Geforce 7800GTX OC Overclocked 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card CPU- AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Manchester 2000MHz HT 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Memory- CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory Case&Power Supply- Antec LifeStyle SONATA II Piano Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450Watt SmartPower 2.0 ATX 12V V2.0 for AMD & Intel systems Power Supply Motherboard- MSI K8N Diamond Plus Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI X16 ATX AMD Motherboard Ive been using this set up for about 2 years now and up until last night, everything seemed A-OK

06-15-2008, 12:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,900 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: computer will not turn on the psu has a max output of 410w combined 12 line amps are 32=available=24 see if you can borrow a quality 550+ to try in it with a min of 26a available on the 12v line __________________

06-15-2008, 05:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
mdelrossi1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13 OS: Windows XP SP2	Re: computer will not turn on would this have happened after 2 years of use? the computer has worked fine for that time with the current power supply unit.

06-15-2008, 07:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,900 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: computer will not turn on when you tax something near it's limits in the end something is going to give way we always recommend buying case and psu as seperate items __________________

06-16-2008, 03:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,900 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: computer will not turn on no they are not a recommended brand it would do to check with but not to buy http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...corsair%2b550w see if you can borrow one to check with first __________________ Last edited by dai : 06-16-2008 at 03:03 AM.

06-18-2008, 10:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
mdelrossi1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13 OS: Windows XP SP2	Re: computer will not turn on cant find one to borrow...might have to buy...would you suggest PSU in previous post?

06-18-2008, 10:56 AM	#11 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,900 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: computer will not turn on yes it's top quality __________________

06-23-2008, 02:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
mdelrossi1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13 OS: Windows XP SP2	Re: computer will not turn on I used that power supply...no change in behaviour...HD mounts and works fine in a 3.5 external enclosure. Last edited by mdelrossi1 : 06-23-2008 at 02:24 PM.

06-23-2008, 03:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,900 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: computer will not turn on when it is connected to the m/b can you see it listed correctly in the bios if not try a new cable on it __________________

06-23-2008, 04:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
mdelrossi1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13 OS: Windows XP SP2	Re: computer will not turn on nothing comes up on my monitor. like i said earlier in the thread all i can see is a "no signal" message so i cannot read the bios.

06-23-2008, 04:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,900 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: computer will not turn on have a look through these http://www.bosamar.com/K9N/faq.html#q5 http://www.bosamar.com/K9N/trouble.html reseat and redo the paste on the cpu with some arctic silver http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm are you still getting the single post beep __________________

06-23-2008, 05:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
mdelrossi1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13 OS: Windows XP SP2	Re: computer will not turn on well i cleared the CMOS and now i can see the bios. new problem...I can boot up Windows with one RAM stick in there but I get an error message saying that there is limited virtual memory and instructs me to set up a paging file (the performance is also understandably very slow). when i put in the second RAM in I get a blue screen of death that only stays up for a second or so and i cannot read what it says. did the CMOS clear take away the settings for a second RAM stick? if so, how can i update that? Last edited by mdelrossi1 : 06-23-2008 at 05:14 PM.

06-23-2008, 05:18 PM	#17 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,900 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: computer will not turn on run memtest on the ram 1 stick at a time with it in the slot closest to the cpu http://www.memtest.org/ __________________

06-23-2008, 09:32 PM	#18 (permalink)
mdelrossi1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 13 OS: Windows XP SP2	Re: computer will not turn on I cannot get memtest to run...i tried using the USB thumb drive version and the ISO CD drive version and neither of them boot ... i either get a non bootable device message or i get nothing and it goes right to windows.

06-23-2008, 09:46 PM	#19 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,900 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: computer will not turn on have you set the bios to boot from cd first,before trying to boot from the cd __________________