[SOLVED] random shutdown no start

kevindtimm · 04-14-2008, 03:02 PM

sorry for bouncing this back to the top after 4 months, but I have the same issue (only connect the 20 pin, I get power, connect the P2 (4 pin connector by CPU and get fractions of a second of power))

I have an ECS nforce6m-a v2.0 board, the only thing connected is an 8600 video card. No beeps, no POST, nothing. Also, I have a 500W PS.

My question (in a nutshell) is, what was the solution for the OP? New PS, new MB, new Processor or some selection of the above?

TIA

Of course, this is a bad day, since tomorrow is April 15th :(

Tumbleweed36 · 04-14-2008, 03:55 PM

You aren't trying to use the 4 pins (snap off) that was with the 24 (20 + 4) pin PSU connector, are you? You have to use the square +12 volt molex from the power supply to connect to the motherboard at that connection. If you had a 24 (20+4) connector and you don't need all 24 for your board, then you don't use that little snap off 4 pin connector. Hope you haven't damaged anything.

kevindtimm · 04-14-2008, 05:52 PM

No, I've been using the computer in this configuration for >6 months.

It just quit in the middle of the day yesterday, during the Masters; won't do anything with 20+4 plugged in AND ATX12V1 plugged in, will create power with ATX12V1 out, but no POST, nothing like it.

kevindtimm · 04-15-2008, 08:27 AM

won't do anything with 20+4 plugged in AND ATX12V1 plugged in
will create power with ATX12V1 out, but no POST, no beeps, nothing at all

dai · 04-15-2008, 11:24 AM

see if you can borrow a better psu to try in it 550w+
what is the brand of the one in it,it looks a little on the light side

kevindtimm · 04-15-2008, 12:23 PM

CoolerMaster 500W - I don't want to buy another PS until I know what's broken on mine, hence the add-on to the existing problem.

Essentially, I want to know what solved his problem, not so much to create a new problem.

dai · 04-15-2008, 01:23 PM

usually it's the psu or the m/b and the psu is easier to check

kevindtimm · 04-15-2008, 04:35 PM

Is there an 'easy' way to test the PSU?

kevindtimm · 04-15-2008, 06:49 PM

Actually, I got the PSU tested, it's AOK. Now, how can I test the MB, CPU and RAM?

dai · 04-16-2008, 10:45 AM

ram run memtest on 1 stick at a time

http://www.memtest86.com/
cpu try it in another computer

kevindtimm · 04-16-2008, 11:10 AM

stupid question, but without POST, how can I use this? I don't have another computer. All I got from the service guy at frys was that the ATX12V1 problem usually means CPU, but that's kind of vague.

I've been waiting for an ECS response (RMA) for more thana day now, do they ever respond?

dai · 04-16-2008, 12:02 PM

i was not saying there was anything wrong with the psu,only that it may be underpowered for the system
how long ecs takes i don't know as i have never had to deal with them but i would suspect the m/b before the cpu
can you contact them by phone

kevindtimm · 04-17-2008, 08:47 AM

PSU worked for 6 months. Plugged in the minimum (20+4 ATX12V1) no go.

I sure hate to buy a new MB/CPU and RAM when it's almost certainly just one of them that's bad.

HD_Monkey · 04-17-2008, 10:27 AM

I had the same issue with an ECS board I picked up at Fry's as part of mobo/cpu combo. This would lead me to think it is probably the board. They are notoriously poor quality. Which is why they are practically giving them away. Case in point: a few weeks ago saw in Fry's ad Q6600/ECS mobo combo for $279.99. Newegg price for cpu only was $281.99.

When in doubt buy ASUS

kevindtimm · 04-18-2008, 06:52 AM

Replaced the MB, works like a charm.

This is the same solution as was in the original post that I glommed onto [but was separated from].

Tumbleweed36 · 04-18-2008, 08:58 AM

We are happy you are up and running. Enjoy the forum and stick around and lend a hand if you see something you can help with.

dai · 04-18-2008, 03:09 PM

you work in your own thread and subscribe to any others you feel are relevant to your problem

04-14-2008, 03:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
kevindtimm Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9 OS: winxp sp2	[SOLVED] random shutdown no start sorry for bouncing this back to the top after 4 months, but I have the same issue (only connect the 20 pin, I get power, connect the P2 (4 pin connector by CPU and get fractions of a second of power)) I have an ECS nforce6m-a v2.0 board, the only thing connected is an 8600 video card. No beeps, no POST, nothing. Also, I have a 500W PS. My question (in a nutshell) is, what was the solution for the OP? New PS, new MB, new Processor or some selection of the above? TIA Of course, this is a bad day, since tomorrow is April 15th :(

04-14-2008, 03:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 12,816 OS: XP Professional	Re: [SOLVED] Random Shutdown and Wont Turn On. You aren't trying to use the 4 pins (snap off) that was with the 24 (20 + 4) pin PSU connector, are you? You have to use the square +12 volt molex from the power supply to connect to the motherboard at that connection. If you had a 24 (20+4) connector and you don't need all 24 for your board, then you don't use that little snap off 4 pin connector. Hope you haven't damaged anything. __________________ ---------- Last edited by Tumbleweed36 : 04-14-2008 at 03:59 PM.

04-14-2008, 05:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
kevindtimm Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9 OS: winxp sp2	Re: [SOLVED] Random Shutdown and Wont Turn On. No, I've been using the computer in this configuration for >6 months. It just quit in the middle of the day yesterday, during the Masters; won't do anything with 20+4 plugged in AND ATX12V1 plugged in, will create power with ATX12V1 out, but no POST, nothing like it.

04-15-2008, 08:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
kevindtimm Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9 OS: winxp sp2	Re: Random Shutdown and Wont Turn On. won't do anything with 20+4 plugged in AND ATX12V1 plugged in will create power with ATX12V1 out, but no POST, no beeps, nothing at all

04-15-2008, 11:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,475 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: random shutdown no start see if you can borrow a better psu to try in it 550w+ what is the brand of the one in it,it looks a little on the light side __________________

04-15-2008, 12:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
kevindtimm Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9 OS: winxp sp2	Re: random shutdown no start CoolerMaster 500W - I don't want to buy another PS until I know what's broken on mine, hence the add-on to the existing problem. Essentially, I want to know what solved his problem, not so much to create a new problem.

04-15-2008, 01:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,475 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: random shutdown no start usually it's the psu or the m/b and the psu is easier to check __________________

04-15-2008, 04:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
kevindtimm Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9 OS: winxp sp2	Re: random shutdown no start Is there an 'easy' way to test the PSU?

04-15-2008, 06:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
kevindtimm Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9 OS: winxp sp2	Re: random shutdown no start Actually, I got the PSU tested, it's AOK. Now, how can I test the MB, CPU and RAM?

04-16-2008, 10:45 AM	#10 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,475 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: random shutdown no start ram run memtest on 1 stick at a time http://www.memtest86.com/ cpu try it in another computer __________________

04-16-2008, 11:10 AM	#11 (permalink)
kevindtimm Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9 OS: winxp sp2	Re: random shutdown no start stupid question, but without POST, how can I use this? I don't have another computer. All I got from the service guy at frys was that the ATX12V1 problem usually means CPU, but that's kind of vague. I've been waiting for an ECS response (RMA) for more thana day now, do they ever respond? Last edited by kevindtimm : 04-16-2008 at 11:13 AM.

04-16-2008, 12:02 PM	#12 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,475 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: random shutdown no start i was not saying there was anything wrong with the psu,only that it may be underpowered for the system how long ecs takes i don't know as i have never had to deal with them but i would suspect the m/b before the cpu can you contact them by phone __________________

04-17-2008, 08:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
kevindtimm Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9 OS: winxp sp2	Re: random shutdown no start PSU worked for 6 months. Plugged in the minimum (20+4 ATX12V1) no go. I sure hate to buy a new MB/CPU and RAM when it's almost certainly just one of them that's bad.

04-17-2008, 10:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
HD_Monkey Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 16 OS: XP Pro SP2, XP x64 SP2 My System	Re: random shutdown no start I had the same issue with an ECS board I picked up at Fry's as part of mobo/cpu combo. This would lead me to think it is probably the board. They are notoriously poor quality. Which is why they are practically giving them away. Case in point: a few weeks ago saw in Fry's ad Q6600/ECS mobo combo for $279.99. Newegg price for cpu only was $281.99. When in doubt buy ASUS

04-18-2008, 06:52 AM	#15 (permalink)
kevindtimm Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9 OS: winxp sp2	Re: random shutdown no start Replaced the MB, works like a charm. This is the same solution as was in the original post that I glommed onto [but was separated from].

04-18-2008, 08:58 AM	#16 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 12,816 OS: XP Professional	Re: random shutdown no start We are happy you are up and running. Enjoy the forum and stick around and lend a hand if you see something you can help with. __________________ ----------

04-18-2008, 03:09 PM	#17 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 39,475 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: [SOLVED] random shutdown no start you work in your own thread and subscribe to any others you feel are relevant to your problem __________________