MSI Motherboard Doesnt Detect CD-rom on IDE Slot #2

inuke · 03-30-2008, 12:16 PM

Hi guys, I seem to have a similar problem to some other users on this forum!

I hat an MSI motherboard which has 3 IDE slots, one blue, two yellow!

Well it just seems that anything I connect in other than the Blue ide slot, the motherboard doesnt detect it!

For exemple a cd-rom drive!

I have to use the cd-rom drive, outside my computer box, connected on the same IDE cable as the HD, cause the cable is not long enough to get the correct CD-rom place!

Id like to know if anybody here got with a solution for this common problem!

Thx!

Tumbleweed36 · 03-30-2008, 12:36 PM

How do you have the CDRom jumpered? Where is it located on the ribbon cable? What else is on that cable? Can you see it in the bios setup menu? You do have those drives set to auto in the bios setup menu, don't you?

inuke · 03-30-2008, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36

How do you have the CDRom jumpered? Where is it located on the ribbon cable? What else is on that cable? Can you see it in the bios setup menu? You do have those drives set to auto in the bios setup menu, don't you?

Will check it all in a sec, thx for fast answering :)

Ill get back here in a minute!

inuke · 03-30-2008, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36

How do you have the CDRom jumpered? Where is it located on the ribbon cable? What else is on that cable? Can you see it in the bios setup menu? You do have those drives set to auto in the bios setup menu, don't you?

Ok, I checked all the above as you asked Tumble, and this is what I got:

3 IDE slots (Blue, Yellow, Yellow)
On blue I got 1 IDE cable connected into 2 different HDs, jumpers on cable select! (BOTH ARE WORKING, and ARE DETECTED BY WINDOWS)

On the first yellow, I got another IDE cable connected to 2 DVD-roms. Jumpers: Master and Slave... Master is connected on the last IDE cable connecter, Slave in the middle one!

Bios Detect both dvd-roms as they appear on the boot screen!

But when logged into windows xpsp2, I go to windows explorer and they're not there!

Well, I know sometime ago, I did it to work somehow, but then I fdisked and clean whole Hard drive, and it stopped to work. I dont know if I possibly did something on the bios so it wont work anymore or not!

Let me know if it helps you getting the solution, or Ill answer to any question you may have to help me out!

Thx!

Tumbleweed36 · 03-30-2008, 01:34 PM

Did you try the cdrom drives on cable select to see if that helps. Set them just like your hard drives. I assume you can't see them in My computer, is that correct?

oldmn · 03-30-2008, 01:35 PM

What mother board are you using?

inuke · 03-30-2008, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36

Did you try the cdrom drives on cable select to see if that helps. Set them just like your hard drives. I assume you can't see them in My computer, is that correct?

Exactly That!

I tried already all the possible Jumpers/Connectors combinations!

And btw, at boot screen it shows just like this:

NONE RAID
Primary Master: CD-rom .....
Primary Slave: DVD-rom .....

So it detects somehow at a certain point when booting!

But actually I went into bios and there it shows:

Primary Master: Not detected
Primary Slave : Not detected
Secondary Master: Not Detected
Secondary Slave: Not Detected
Third Master: St... (which is first HD)
Third Slave: St... (which is second HD)

I went into the Detection menu also and theyre all in AUTO detection!

I dont get it!

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmn

What mother board are you using?

My motherboard is this one:

MSI 915/G combo
(Intel 915P/G Express Chipset Based)

dai · 03-30-2008, 04:56 PM

set the cd drives to be detected as cdroms instead of auto
if the yellow slots are raid capable which they appear to be you need to load the raid driver and set the drives to run as ide in the bios
normally you would connect the h/d to the yellow and cd/dvd to the blue slot

inuke · 03-30-2008, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dai

set the cd drives to be detected as cdroms instead of auto
if the yellow slots are raid capable which they appear to be you need to load the raid driver and set the drives to run as ide in the bios
normally you would connect the h/d to the yellow and cd/dvd to the blue slot

Ok, so I did it all as u said, and..

If I connect the HD into the yellow slot and the 2 dvd-roms into the blue on one cable, then we got 2 options happening:

#1 If I select IDE RAID CONTROLLER as, ENABLED, on my bios:

Bios detects both dvd-roms, doesnt detect HD, but shows it on the boot menu, and on the boot screen; but right after that screen appears, the computer stops with a black screen with an underscore on the left top corner blinking! Looks like the cpu is working, but ive left it for hours with no results!

#2 If I select IDE RAID CONTROLLER as, DISABLED, on my bios:

Bios detects both dvd-roms, doesnt detect HD, neither shows it on boot menu; When booting, it goes to a black screen saying: "Please insert the boot disk on the boot drive and press any key or re-boot computer and set a boot drive from the boot menu (which doesnt show the HD, but only the 2 dvd-roms)

Well, Im not gona quit, I got this computer for 3 years and never fixed that, lol.. but now I really wanna get the solution, cause it seems a very popular problem, but which I couldnt find yet solution over the internet!

Isnt there ANYONE whos supposed to know what the hell is this???

Its almost impossible to be true, so please guys stay with me, and let me know what would you do to get it solved, or what should I do, if you know the solution!

Theres some guy talkin about deleting the upperfilter and lowerfilter on some key registry, and restart the computer, I did that too with no results!
I dont know if theres some restrict steps I should do it through,..

Well, let me know your thoughts.

Thx!

oldmn · 03-30-2008, 08:54 PM

What cable are you using?
With this board you have to use an 80 wire cable. and have he HDD set on CS.
An 80 wire cable has 80 wires 1 blue connector (MOB) 1 black on the end (master) and a gray one in the center (slave).
Your drive will not work on a 40 wire cable. Your optical drives will.

inuke · 03-31-2008, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmn

What cable are you using?
With this board you have to use an 80 wire cable. and have he HDD set on CS.
An 80 wire cable has 80 wires 1 blue connector (MOB) 1 black on the end (master) and a gray one in the center (slave).
Your drive will not work on a 40 wire cable. Your optical drives will.

Im using exactly that one!

So took out from this thread, I need to use 80 wires cable, HDD jumpers on CS, connected to a yellow IDE slot.
At the same time the 2 DVD-roms connected on another 80 wires cable, set on Master and Slave, connected to the blue IDE slot!

One question tho, is it supposed to connect the HDD on the end of the cable or in the middle (Master or Slave connector) ?
Thats as Im only using one HDD atm.

One ore thing, its got nothing to do with RAIDS, does it? Cause if I connect 2 HDD in the same cable and in a yellow IDE slot, it doesnt log in to windows, but it allows me to create some array bettween the 2 HDD, Im not sure!

But I dont think so,..

Anyway, Im gona try to do above steps 1 by 1, and come back here later!

At the same time if anyone got more oppinions or knowladge to share, feel free cause I need it :)

Thx..

Tumbleweed36 · 03-31-2008, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inuke

So took out from this thread, I need to use 80 wires cable, HDD jumpers on CS, connected to a yellow IDE slot.
At the same time the 2 DVD-roms connected on another 80 wires cable, set on Master and Slave, connected to the blue IDE slot!

One question tho, is it supposed to connect the HDD on the end of the cable or in the middle (Master or Slave connector) ?

The drive you want as master always goes on the END of the ribbon cable.

Thats as Im only using one HDD atm.

One more thing, its got nothing to do with RAIDS, does it?

Raid should be set to operate as standard IDE in that area since you need those connectors for your cd type drives which are not raid configurable.

Cause if I connect 2 HDD in the same cable and in a yellow IDE slot, it doesnt log in to windows, but it allows me to create some array bettween the 2 HDD, Im not sure!

If you have it hooked as you just describe with it set to IDE mode, then it should work in most instances instead of creating an array.

When trying these things, always check the Boot area of the bios to make sure the boot order is set to:

CDrom -1st
Floppy - 2nd
Hard Drive - 3rd (if it is listed in there)

Also, with this setup, make sure you have the Hard Drive Priority in the Boot area of the bios set to Hard Drive listed first.
Thx..

dai · 03-31-2008, 11:22 AM

use master slave on the hard drives not cable select

inuke · 04-01-2008, 03:46 PM

Ok, tried all the options above with no success..

Idk what else can I do..

I know I put it working once while ago, but then had to fdisk and re-assemble whole pc and its all gone!

Do you guys think it might be something with the creating arrays, or raids, or something that must be done when installing windows?

Idk what else to think and I cant seem to find help on the msi website!

...

dai · 05-16-2008, 06:43 PM

the yellow slot is for running raid,you have to load the raid driver to enable the slot
but to run the drives as non raid you set them as ide in the bios

03-30-2008, 12:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
inuke Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8 OS: xpsp2	MSI Motherboard Doesnt Detect CD-rom on IDE Slot #2 Hi guys, I seem to have a similar problem to some other users on this forum! I hat an MSI motherboard which has 3 IDE slots, one blue, two yellow! Well it just seems that anything I connect in other than the Blue ide slot, the motherboard doesnt detect it! For exemple a cd-rom drive! I have to use the cd-rom drive, outside my computer box, connected on the same IDE cable as the HD, cause the cable is not long enough to get the correct CD-rom place! Id like to know if anybody here got with a solution for this common problem! Thx!

03-30-2008, 12:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 14,117 OS: XP Professional	Re: MSI Motherboard Doesnt Detect CD-rom on IDE Slot #2 How do you have the CDRom jumpered? Where is it located on the ribbon cable? What else is on that cable? Can you see it in the bios setup menu? You do have those drives set to auto in the bios setup menu, don't you? __________________ ----------

03-30-2008, 01:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tumbleweed36 Asst Manager Hardware Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 14,117 OS: XP Professional	Re: MSI Motherboard Doesnt Detect CD-rom on IDE Slot #2 Did you try the cdrom drives on cable select to see if that helps. Set them just like your hard drives. I assume you can't see them in My computer, is that correct? __________________ ----------

03-30-2008, 01:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
oldmn Hardware Tech Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gig Harbor Wa Posts: 2,137 OS: XP Pro SP3 X 3 My System	Re: MSI Motherboard Doesnt Detect CD-rom on IDE Slot #2 What mother board are you using? __________________ AVG \| MEMTEST86 \| Zone Alarm \| XXCLONE \| Adaware \| Beyond Compare \| Everest If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Sorry no PM's for problems.

03-30-2008, 04:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 41,849 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: MSI Motherboard Doesnt Detect CD-rom on IDE Slot #2 set the cd drives to be detected as cdroms instead of auto if the yellow slots are raid capable which they appear to be you need to load the raid driver and set the drives to run as ide in the bios normally you would connect the h/d to the yellow and cd/dvd to the blue slot __________________

03-30-2008, 08:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
oldmn Hardware Tech Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gig Harbor Wa Posts: 2,137 OS: XP Pro SP3 X 3 My System	Re: MSI Motherboard Doesnt Detect CD-rom on IDE Slot #2 What cable are you using? With this board you have to use an 80 wire cable. and have he HDD set on CS. An 80 wire cable has 80 wires 1 blue connector (MOB) 1 black on the end (master) and a gray one in the center (slave). Your drive will not work on a 40 wire cable. Your optical drives will. __________________ AVG \| MEMTEST86 \| Zone Alarm \| XXCLONE \| Adaware \| Beyond Compare \| Everest If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Sorry no PM's for problems.

03-31-2008, 11:22 AM	#13 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 41,849 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: MSI Motherboard Doesnt Detect CD-rom on IDE Slot #2 use master slave on the hard drives not cable select __________________

04-01-2008, 03:46 PM	#14 (permalink)
inuke Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 8 OS: xpsp2	Re: MSI Motherboard Doesnt Detect CD-rom on IDE Slot #2 Ok, tried all the options above with no success.. Idk what else can I do.. I know I put it working once while ago, but then had to fdisk and re-assemble whole pc and its all gone! Do you guys think it might be something with the creating arrays, or raids, or something that must be done when installing windows? Idk what else to think and I cant seem to find help on the msi website! ... __________________ This software is provided 'as-is', without any express or implied warranty. In no event will the author be held liable for any damages arising from the use of this software.

05-16-2008, 06:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 41,849 OS: vista 32x ultimate retail	Re: MSI Motherboard Doesnt Detect CD-rom on IDE Slot #2 the yellow slot is for running raid,you have to load the raid driver to enable the slot but to run the drives as non raid you set them as ide in the bios __________________