Motherboard Replacement

frokey · 03-25-2008, 09:14 AM

Hi. I found out yesterday that I was going to need a new motherboard for one of the desktops in my office (bad capacitors). I'm trying to figure out what board and probably processor I should get. Also, I need to know if I'm gonna have to get new memory. I've looked for several hours now, but there are so many choices, I'm not sure which direction to go in. Any help would be appreciated. Specs are below...

HP Pavilion a450n
3.00EGHz Pentium 4 with HT
512MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM Original (upgraded to 1GB)
2 Optical Drives (DVD+RW/CD-RW and CD-ROM)
7-in-1 media card reader, USB 2.0 and Firewire Ports
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Graphics card

I looked up the system on HP.com and it said that the motherboard is an ASUS P4SD-LA PES revision 0.01

Thanks for any help you can give, and if you need any more info, just ask.

**manic** · 03-25-2008, 11:25 AM

What are you going to use the pc for? If its for typical office duties
you could get by with just replacing the board.

frokey · 03-25-2008, 12:54 PM

Not just basic office stuff. I'm running Adobe Creative Suite CS1 on it. I'll be upgrading to CS3 very soon, so it's gonna have to handle large graphic files and processing.

**manic** · 03-25-2008, 01:20 PM

Imo your cpu is still viable., so is your ram, although you may want
to add another 512mbs. I would buy another case and quality power
supply unit, and a decent video card. Then rob all parts from your
current machine., on top of a new board. Depends on if your
comfortable doing that, I would not spend the money to have
someone else replace the board, and from what ive read the replace
ment board is a little pricey.

frokey · 03-25-2008, 01:29 PM

how pricey are we talking? I'm assuming you're looking at an ASUS board?

**manic** · 03-25-2008, 01:33 PM

Do a google on it, HP Pavilion a450n
The first one I saw is 275 bucks, and it is asus., Might be a proprietary
thing with that case. Is that a 470pin cpu, or a 775. Probably a 470.

frokey · 03-25-2008, 01:36 PM

478. I've got to match that in order to use the same processor, right?

**manic** · 03-25-2008, 01:40 PM

Yes, I said 470pin, meant to edit that. I dont think you can install
any old mobo in that case, it may be proprietary hardware, the same
goes for the power supply configuration. But all other parts can be
cannablized.

frokey · 03-25-2008, 01:44 PM

so with that price range, you would still suggest replacing only the mobo? I think I remember seeing some core 2's around $200-250 and some mobo's for around $100. But I guess I'd have to add the cost of new memory to that as well.

**manic** · 03-25-2008, 01:54 PM

If your going to use your old cpu you will have to stick to 478pin
mobo. Go here www.pricewatch.com shop around. Dont get a pc
chips mobo, foxconn, ecs, soyo,. Ive had good luck with asrocks, asus,
biostar, tyan, gigabyte, abit, intel. When choosing a board you will
want a 800mhz fsb capablity, as that is what your cpu is supposed to
support.
From what ive seen briefly you can do the mobo and ram for around
200 bucks, tops, but that is you doing the labor.

frokey · 03-25-2008, 01:56 PM

I really appreciate all the info, manic. Can I hit you up if I have some more questions?

**manic** · 03-25-2008, 01:58 PM

Sure, but remember Im not sure if you can use that case., If thats so
you will have to get another power supply, and case...Cases are cheap
a decent power supply can be had for no more than 150, for what
your doing...

frokey · 03-25-2008, 01:59 PM

k. thanks again. I'll get to searching!

03-25-2008, 09:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
frokey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MS Posts: 7 OS: XP SP2 MCE	Motherboard Replacement Hi. I found out yesterday that I was going to need a new motherboard for one of the desktops in my office (bad capacitors). I'm trying to figure out what board and probably processor I should get. Also, I need to know if I'm gonna have to get new memory. I've looked for several hours now, but there are so many choices, I'm not sure which direction to go in. Any help would be appreciated. Specs are below... HP Pavilion a450n 3.00EGHz Pentium 4 with HT 512MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM Original (upgraded to 1GB) 2 Optical Drives (DVD+RW/CD-RW and CD-ROM) 7-in-1 media card reader, USB 2.0 and Firewire Ports NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Graphics card I looked up the system on HP.com and it said that the motherboard is an ASUS P4SD-LA PES revision 0.01 Thanks for any help you can give, and if you need any more info, just ask.

03-25-2008, 11:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
manic Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 4,870 OS: xp	Re: Motherboard Replacement What are you going to use the pc for? If its for typical office duties you could get by with just replacing the board. __________________

03-25-2008, 12:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
frokey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MS Posts: 7 OS: XP SP2 MCE	Re: Motherboard Replacement Not just basic office stuff. I'm running Adobe Creative Suite CS1 on it. I'll be upgrading to CS3 very soon, so it's gonna have to handle large graphic files and processing.

03-25-2008, 01:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
manic Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 4,870 OS: xp	Re: Motherboard Replacement Imo your cpu is still viable., so is your ram, although you may want to add another 512mbs. I would buy another case and quality power supply unit, and a decent video card. Then rob all parts from your current machine., on top of a new board. Depends on if your comfortable doing that, I would not spend the money to have someone else replace the board, and from what ive read the replace ment board is a little pricey. __________________

03-25-2008, 01:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
frokey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MS Posts: 7 OS: XP SP2 MCE	Re: Motherboard Replacement how pricey are we talking? I'm assuming you're looking at an ASUS board?

03-25-2008, 01:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
manic Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 4,870 OS: xp	Re: Motherboard Replacement Do a google on it, HP Pavilion a450n The first one I saw is 275 bucks, and it is asus., Might be a proprietary thing with that case. Is that a 470pin cpu, or a 775. Probably a 470. __________________

03-25-2008, 01:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
frokey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MS Posts: 7 OS: XP SP2 MCE	Re: Motherboard Replacement 478. I've got to match that in order to use the same processor, right?

03-25-2008, 01:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
manic Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 4,870 OS: xp	Re: Motherboard Replacement Yes, I said 470pin, meant to edit that. I dont think you can install any old mobo in that case, it may be proprietary hardware, the same goes for the power supply configuration. But all other parts can be cannablized. __________________

03-25-2008, 01:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
frokey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MS Posts: 7 OS: XP SP2 MCE	Re: Motherboard Replacement so with that price range, you would still suggest replacing only the mobo? I think I remember seeing some core 2's around $200-250 and some mobo's for around $100. But I guess I'd have to add the cost of new memory to that as well.

03-25-2008, 01:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
manic Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 4,870 OS: xp	Re: Motherboard Replacement If your going to use your old cpu you will have to stick to 478pin mobo. Go here www.pricewatch.com shop around. Dont get a pc chips mobo, foxconn, ecs, soyo,. Ive had good luck with asrocks, asus, biostar, tyan, gigabyte, abit, intel. When choosing a board you will want a 800mhz fsb capablity, as that is what your cpu is supposed to support. From what ive seen briefly you can do the mobo and ram for around 200 bucks, tops, but that is you doing the labor. __________________ Last edited by manic; 03-25-2008 at 01:56 PM.

03-25-2008, 01:56 PM	#11 (permalink)
frokey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MS Posts: 7 OS: XP SP2 MCE	Re: Motherboard Replacement I really appreciate all the info, manic. Can I hit you up if I have some more questions?

03-25-2008, 01:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
manic Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 4,870 OS: xp	Re: Motherboard Replacement Sure, but remember Im not sure if you can use that case., If thats so you will have to get another power supply, and case...Cases are cheap a decent power supply can be had for no more than 150, for what your doing... __________________

03-25-2008, 01:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
frokey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MS Posts: 7 OS: XP SP2 MCE	Re: Motherboard Replacement k. thanks again. I'll get to searching!