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Old 01-17-2008, 07:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I just bought all of these parts four (4) days ago:

MSI K9N SLI Platinum NVIDIA Socket AM2 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / SLI Ready / Dual Gigabit LAN / S/PDIF / USB 2.0 & Firewire / Serial ATA / RAID

Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 250GB Hard Drive - 7200, 8MB, ATA-100, OEM

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Socket AM2 Windsor

Ultra / X-Finity / 600-Watt / ATX / Dual 80mm Fan / SATA-Ready / SLI Ready / Black / Power Supply

OCZ SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory (2 x 1024MB)

Sony DRU170C Retail DVD Burner - 18x DVD±R Burn, 16x DVD±R Read, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD±R DL,

XFX GeForce 8600 GT Video Card - 512MB DDR2, PCI Express, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) DVI, VGA, HDTV, Video Card



Heres what my problem is. The first time, after i get everything all setup, i turned it on, no beeps, and the 4 red LEDs were on on the D-Bracket. So i looked in the manual and it says my CPU is installed incorrectly or damaged. So i take my heatsink off and look at the CPU. Nope, its in correctly... it can only go in one way... I have tried doing a Recovery Flashing of my bios because i read on one of the forums that the old bios cannot detect the cpu. So i tried this out. It didnt work. The keyboard would light up for about a quarter of a second when i first turn it on, then nothing. I have tried booting with different ram, but the same thing happens. I have also tried to boot it outside of the box, but the same thing happens. I've tried removing the CMOS battery, pressing the CMOS reset but nothing. So finally i though that it wouldnt hurt to just RMA the stinkin CPU. It is on its way now... if that doesnt work i guess RMAing the motherboard is next...

Any suggestions?


I dont care how stupid or basic you think your suggestion is... please tell me!

(sorry if i sound irritable. this is the first pc i am building and im pretty frustrated.)
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Old 01-17-2008, 07:42 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: MSI K9N SLI Platinum Socket AM2 No Post.

The MSI diagnostic LEDs are pretty good for figuring out what's wrong. An alternative is a Port 80 scanner card which you plug into a free PCI slot. It gives a 2-digit code that can be used to determine the exact problem you're facing.

Right now I'd wait on the new CPU to arrive and give it a spin.
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Re: MSI K9N SLI Platinum Socket AM2 No Post.

Yeah, I'll just wait for the new CPU (should be arriving today). If I still get the same problem I'll most likely get the Port 80 scanner.

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Re: MSI K9N SLI Platinum Socket AM2 No Post.

When I build a new computer, and the board doesn't give a post beep, after I check to make sure I have the speaker and power plugs securely installed, my first suspicion is the motherboard. Even with bad parts the board should beep, with all new parts everything is suspect. Since I've never had a cpu bad out of the box, I would have looked at everything else first. Did you say the bios flash failed, did the fans spin the first time you turned it on? Do you have both the 24 pin and the square 4 pin power plugs seated firmly in the power sockets? Make sure the cmos jumper is in the correct position. Lastly I'm curious, why didn't you buy a SATA hard drive instead of the IDE drive, you'll take a big speed hit and both drives will have to be hooked up by one IDE ribbon. Mike
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Old 01-17-2008, 09:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yes the fans spin. i got the new cpu and same problem.

oh, and i couldnt find any SATA 3.5 inch hds... i dont think that the speed of my hd will bother me any... will it? i just plan on gaming.
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Re: MSI K9N SLI Platinum Socket AM2 No Post.

It'll start bugging you when things load really slow.
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Re: MSI K9N SLI Platinum Socket AM2 No Post.

RMA'ed the Motherboard, getting it today.


How slow are we talking with those load times...?
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Not dead slow, but slow enough that you won't realize the full potential of your new computer. ATA drives transfer data at 100mb/s, SATA2 drives transfer data at 300mb/s. Plus I never like to run both my hard drive and CD-rom on the same cable. Mike
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Re: MSI K9N SLI Platinum Socket AM2 No Post.

In real-world use you're looking at about 50-80MBps tranfser rates from hard drives. Hard drives running at 10K RPM and higher achieve somewhat higher output rates, but rarely break 100MBps.

Even so it's best to give each device its own cable. Optical drives use the ATA33 spec for transferring data. Any device on that cable with the optical drive will also be limited to ATA33 speeds meaning that HDD performance will suffer.
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got the new MOBO same problem...
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got the new mobo... same problem\


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We need to go this way now.
http://www.techsupportforum.com/hardware-support/building/171424-how-bench-test-your-system.html
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nope, still not posting.
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Do you have the mobo on a box? What else is attached?
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its on the mobo box.

i have the 24 pin power connector connected.

video card.

monitor

keyboard.

1 stick of ram.

CPU and fan


do i need anything plugged into the slot by the cpu? theres are 2 4 pin connectors and they are diferent.

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If there are two power plugs by the cpu, one is a square 4 pin plug and the other is a 4 pin molex connector. If you didn't have power to either of these plugs that is possibly what is keeping the system from booting. The square plug (two black wires, 2 yellow wires) powers the cpu, the flat 4 pin molex plug powers the video card. Plug those in and either hook up the case power button or take a screw driver and short the two power pins. Double check all the connections and see what happens. Mike
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the fan wont even spin when i split the 24 pin connector to a 20 and plug the extra 4 in by the cpu.
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You should not separate the 4 from the 20 pin connector, as stated in my last post the square P4 connector with 2 black wires and 2 yellow wires goes in the socket by the cpu. Plug in the complete 24 pin plug to the motherboard, plug in the square P4 connector by the cpu, plug in the flat 4 pin molex plug above the video card. Mike
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there is no 4 pin, only 24, 6 and 8
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Is this your PS? It shows one but other owners also comment it doesn't have one. I would return it as defective.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1273340&CatId=2036

You'll need to get a new PS that has that connector. Mike
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