P4C-800E Deluxe System is dead

PRYMMVR · 08-22-2004, 05:40 PM

Hello all! First time poster so hope all is well out there. I just got a new rig, and while I had some initial success I'm now dead in the water. Sounds like HATMAN has the same situation happen with a different board...

The rig setup is below; I'll get into details of my experience first. Built the machine (all parts from NewEgg.com!) and all was great at first; parts installed, BIOS was updated (rev 1017); everything ran like a charm in WinXP. It was built for Doom3, so after installing D3 and having high expectations, it started choking on the ID introduction. I ESC through that in hopes the game would perform better, and after it loaded noticed that I had HORRIBLE performance in multiple configurations; even in 800x600 at low settings. So I started running some RAM tests and noticed that my 400mhz ram was clocking in at 200mhz (used MEMTEST86 v1.20). So I went into the BIOS and gave it a small bump; I forget the numbers now but started in increments. The machine rebooted for it take effect; then immediately powered off. After that it wouldn't boot at ALL; in fact all the fans wouldn't spin, the PSU would light up (the Aspire 500w PSU has those blue LED's) for about a 1/2 second, but then nothing; no fans, no HD spinning; nothing. I disconnected all things that required power thinking it was a PSU issue; but after testing the PSU in another box I know it's good; besides the SB_POWER light was lit on the MOBO. So then it was troubleshooting HELL; I've done everything to swapping CPU's (I had a 1.6ghz 478 laying in my old box), to booting up with/without RAM, pulling the mobo out of the case and putting it on carboard/non-conducting surface, pulling the battery out to reset the BIOS; you name it I've done it (or hope to have), all to no avail. I'm leaning that I somehow shot the MOBO, but according to ASUS if you overclock too much the C.P.R. system is supposed to kick in and go to defaults. Hmph...so much for that. So now it's not doing a damn thing, and based upon the reading it's looking like I'm going to have to RMA unless someone knows how to reset the BIOS back to defaults; without the mobo getting power. Any thoughts out there?

Specs:
MOBO: P4C800-E Deluxe
CPU: Intel 3.0EGhz 800 FSB
RAM: 1GB Corsair TWINX 3200C2PT DDRAM
Video: EVGA Nvidia 6800GT
HD: WD Raptor
DVD/CD: Plextor 712a

Xtant · 08-23-2004, 06:50 AM

Check your manual there is a BIOS reset jumper on the board, jumper it power it on, power it off, change jumper back. That should reset your BIOS. After you do that let me know whats going on with the system and I'll try and give you some tweaks for your board.

**twajetmech** · 08-23-2004, 02:53 PM

You should also try trying to boot with only one dimm

Flipburger · 08-28-2004, 02:54 PM

Was this ever resolved? I'm having EXACTLY the same problem. Got a new BIOS chip on order from BIOSWorld hoping that will fix it... Sure don't want to have to return this board

**twajetmech** · 08-28-2004, 03:40 PM

The memory should say 200...its dual data rate so it effectivly doubles to 400 ! so your memory is okay if it passed memtest. What exactly did you bump up....I'd put the Vdimm to 2.75V and see if that helps and/or up the videocard Volts to 1.6, sounds more like you're having issues with the video card....What power supply are you using, the Asus mobo, 3.0E and 6800 need lots of it, I susspect the video card is maxing out your PS.
twajetmech

Flipburger · 08-28-2004, 04:30 PM

I have a 500 watt Allied AL-B500E power supply. I also have a 400 watt Enlight power supply that I tried on this board to see if that was the problem. It won't boot or even beep or anything even with nothing plugged into it except the power.

Press the power button and the only thing that happens is the power supply fan "starts" to spin for about 1/10th of a second and then the just turns itself off.

gamerson · 08-28-2004, 04:36 PM

Disconnect any additional USB headers you may have connected. May want to unplug the 1394 also if you have it there. The board has a "short" protection on it which I have discovered the hard way. My board did the exact same thing. I basically forced it on and blew something on the board in the process (even though it runs now and I don't know what I lost, check another post on this forum with pictures.)

Good luck,

Gary

Flipburger · 08-28-2004, 06:28 PM

Funny you should say that. About 20 minutes ago I plugged it back in just for giggles to see if maybe the planets were in proper alignment or whatever. I hit the power switch and BAM! Something popped, there was a flash, and a bad smell!

All the fans started spinning and it acted like you would expect except it didn't boot. I was looking at the board when it happened so I knew what area on the board it came from. I got a flashlight and investigated. There was a tiny black chip up beside the CPU next to the keyboard power on jumpers that was cracked in half. Unfortunately in my case the board is still dead except that the fans all spin now. Looks like I'll be RMA'ing this one... Hope it didn't get my CPU as well... I have no way to test it until I get the new board. At least I'll have a spare BIOS chip since that one I ordered can't be canceled

Flipburger · 09-20-2004, 04:20 AM

Got the new board and it worked like a charm. No problems at all. Guess that first board was just bad.

08-22-2004, 05:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
PRYMMVR Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1 OS: WINXP	P4C800-E Deluxe System is dead Hello all! First time poster so hope all is well out there. I just got a new rig, and while I had some initial success I'm now dead in the water. Sounds like HATMAN has the same situation happen with a different board... The rig setup is below; I'll get into details of my experience first. Built the machine (all parts from NewEgg.com!) and all was great at first; parts installed, BIOS was updated (rev 1017); everything ran like a charm in WinXP. It was built for Doom3, so after installing D3 and having high expectations, it started choking on the ID introduction. I ESC through that in hopes the game would perform better, and after it loaded noticed that I had HORRIBLE performance in multiple configurations; even in 800x600 at low settings. So I started running some RAM tests and noticed that my 400mhz ram was clocking in at 200mhz (used MEMTEST86 v1.20). So I went into the BIOS and gave it a small bump; I forget the numbers now but started in increments. The machine rebooted for it take effect; then immediately powered off. After that it wouldn't boot at ALL; in fact all the fans wouldn't spin, the PSU would light up (the Aspire 500w PSU has those blue LED's) for about a 1/2 second, but then nothing; no fans, no HD spinning; nothing. I disconnected all things that required power thinking it was a PSU issue; but after testing the PSU in another box I know it's good; besides the SB_POWER light was lit on the MOBO. So then it was troubleshooting HELL; I've done everything to swapping CPU's (I had a 1.6ghz 478 laying in my old box), to booting up with/without RAM, pulling the mobo out of the case and putting it on carboard/non-conducting surface, pulling the battery out to reset the BIOS; you name it I've done it (or hope to have), all to no avail. I'm leaning that I somehow shot the MOBO, but according to ASUS if you overclock too much the C.P.R. system is supposed to kick in and go to defaults. Hmph...so much for that. So now it's not doing a damn thing, and based upon the reading it's looking like I'm going to have to RMA unless someone knows how to reset the BIOS back to defaults; without the mobo getting power. Any thoughts out there? Specs: MOBO: P4C800-E Deluxe CPU: Intel 3.0EGhz 800 FSB RAM: 1GB Corsair TWINX 3200C2PT DDRAM Video: EVGA Nvidia 6800GT HD: WD Raptor DVD/CD: Plextor 712a Last edited by PRYMMVR; 08-22-2004 at 05:49 PM.

08-23-2004, 02:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
twajetmech I helped the forums. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: LGA, NYC Posts: 2,387 OS: XP-Pro Sp2 & XP-Pro Sp2 Tablet Edition, Vista Ultimate My System	You should also try trying to boot with only one dimm __________________ PSU Selection/Info // Bench test // Thermal Paste // Memory Selection // Bios Beep Codes // CPU-Z// Posting System Specs

08-28-2004, 03:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
twajetmech I helped the forums. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: LGA, NYC Posts: 2,387 OS: XP-Pro Sp2 & XP-Pro Sp2 Tablet Edition, Vista Ultimate My System	The memory should say 200...its dual data rate so it effectivly doubles to 400 ! so your memory is okay if it passed memtest. What exactly did you bump up....I'd put the Vdimm to 2.75V and see if that helps and/or up the videocard Volts to 1.6, sounds more like you're having issues with the video card....What power supply are you using, the Asus mobo, 3.0E and 6800 need lots of it, I susspect the video card is maxing out your PS. twajetmech __________________ PSU Selection/Info // Bench test // Thermal Paste // Memory Selection // Bios Beep Codes // CPU-Z// Posting System Specs

08-28-2004, 04:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
gamerson Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 17 OS: XP Pro	What USB headers are you using? Disconnect any additional USB headers you may have connected. May want to unplug the 1394 also if you have it there. The board has a "short" protection on it which I have discovered the hard way. My board did the exact same thing. I basically forced it on and blew something on the board in the process (even though it runs now and I don't know what I lost, check another post on this forum with pictures.) Good luck, Gary

08-28-2004, 06:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
Flipburger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5 OS: WinXP	Funny you should say that. About 20 minutes ago I plugged it back in just for giggles to see if maybe the planets were in proper alignment or whatever. I hit the power switch and BAM! Something popped, there was a flash, and a bad smell! All the fans started spinning and it acted like you would expect except it didn't boot. I was looking at the board when it happened so I knew what area on the board it came from. I got a flashlight and investigated. There was a tiny black chip up beside the CPU next to the keyboard power on jumpers that was cracked in half. Unfortunately in my case the board is still dead except that the fans all spin now. Looks like I'll be RMA'ing this one... Hope it didn't get my CPU as well... I have no way to test it until I get the new board. At least I'll have a spare BIOS chip since that one I ordered can't be canceled Last edited by Flipburger; 08-28-2004 at 06:31 PM.

08-23-2004, 06:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
Xtant Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 144 OS: XP Pro	Check your manual there is a BIOS reset jumper on the board, jumper it power it on, power it off, change jumper back. That should reset your BIOS. After you do that let me know whats going on with the system and I'll try and give you some tweaks for your board.

08-28-2004, 02:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
Flipburger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5 OS: WinXP	Was this ever resolved? I'm having EXACTLY the same problem. Got a new BIOS chip on order from BIOSWorld hoping that will fix it... Sure don't want to have to return this board

08-28-2004, 04:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
Flipburger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5 OS: WinXP	I have a 500 watt Allied AL-B500E power supply. I also have a 400 watt Enlight power supply that I tried on this board to see if that was the problem. It won't boot or even beep or anything even with nothing plugged into it except the power. Press the power button and the only thing that happens is the power supply fan "starts" to spin for about 1/10th of a second and then the just turns itself off.

09-20-2004, 04:20 AM	#9 (permalink)
Flipburger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5 OS: WinXP	Got the new board and it worked like a charm. No problems at all. Guess that first board was just bad.