Power, bleeps but no start up

Antneedshelp! · 10-09-2006, 07:11 PM

Hi,

I installed [fitted] a new motherboard in a computer I had. I used all the same components except for new memory that fit this motherboard [512mb DDR 2100] its a Epox 4BDA533 motherboard, anyway, I put it all in and I m fairly certain its all plugged in right and whatnot but when I turn it on the fans start and the power boots up but the monitor doesn’t do anything and after around 7 seconds some bleeping fades in, the bleeps are one long [2 second] bleep followed by a short [1 second] bleep, these bleeps repeat without stopping, like a siren. Anyone got any advice?

My system info is:

ATI RADEON 9200 RV280LE/SE
Creative SoundBlaster sound card
Aztec modem
Pentium 4 CPU 1.6ghz
20gb HD [which I m replacing but does work, its unformatted also]
512mb RAM

I don’t know if the RAM works, but I’ve checked if its seated correctly numerous times, I’ve also done the same with the graphics card, which I’ve tested.

Although I know it works the monitor not coming on suggests it could be that, doesn’t it?

I’m on Award Bios also

Thank you for any help x

**Doby** · 10-09-2006, 07:43 PM

You mentioned the "bleeps" sound like a siren, something like a European police siren, wee woo wee woo.

If so this is cpu overheat, make sure the heatsink is tight.

Did you use thermal paste? If you reused the cpu and heatsink did you clean and reapply thermal paste?

Antneedshelp! · 10-09-2006, 08:04 PM

hi, i think ive found out what it is, im using a pentium 4 processor and it needs a 4 pin power lead aswell as a 20 pin one and i was using the old PSU from my other computer that just had a 20 pin plug, does that sound like it could be the cause?

**TheMatt** · 10-09-2006, 08:05 PM

Also check that the heatsink fan is running and is blowing down on the CPU.

Antneedshelp! · 10-09-2006, 08:14 PM

yeh like a wee woo sound

Advance is the make of the PSU model number mxa-300ptf

12v

**Doby** · 10-09-2006, 08:30 PM

Ok, you are going to have to clean and reappy the thermal paste on the cpu heatsink, I recomend using Artic silver

http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm

follow thier instructions on the same site to clean and reapply.

If you follow these instructions and your cpu fan is connected to the correct place on the motherboard and the heatsink is tight then you will have no heat issue.

We must make sure the cpu is not over heating before we continue so please follow this advice and then post back

Antneedshelp! · 10-10-2006, 02:15 PM

thanks for your help, ill get looking into it x

**Doby** · 10-10-2006, 05:00 PM

Your welcome keep us posted on your progress

Antneedshelp! · 10-13-2006, 12:50 PM

is applying the stuff and takin the fan out and what not hard? ive never been near the processor before

**Doby** · 10-13-2006, 06:49 PM

If you follow the instructions cleaning/ appling the artic silver is easy, I am not all that familiar with that cpu/heatsink but the last time I did one I don't remember problems at all but I have heard others complain the heatsink is a bear to get clamped down.

Maybe someone else who does alot of intels will respond

Antneedshelp! · 10-16-2006, 10:59 AM

hi, heres a pic of my CPU and fan

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...ley06/best.jpg

how do i get the fan and stuff off?

i dont want to break anything by pulling it!

cheers x

**Doby** · 10-16-2006, 06:00 PM

http://www.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/cs-012895.htm

Here are some instructions available to download, there is both removal and installation

Antneedshelp! · 10-17-2006, 03:23 AM

thats not like mine though, mine has 4 clips in each corner

**Doby** · 10-17-2006, 07:12 PM

That must be some sort of after market heatsink I'll get one of the intel guys to have a look.

chauffeur2 · 10-17-2006, 07:48 PM

G'Day Antneedshelp!,

Doby asked me to have a look at your problem.

Now to remove your Fan/Heatsink [going by the photo that you posted]; try this...

In each of the 4 corners you will see a Black 'Pin' with a groove with an arrow on it. Take a small flat-headed screwdriver, and turn the pin until it releases from the motherboard; unplug the CPU Fan from the board, and the whole heatsink/fan unit will now be able to be lifted from the board so that you can continue with Doby's instructions.

Antneedshelp! · 10-18-2006, 03:46 AM

i cant see anywhere id do that, the corner black things are like things you push down, do i push all 4 down and get someone else to pull it out maybe?

i just dont want to rag it off and break it you see

chauffeur2 · 10-18-2006, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antneedshelp!

i cant see anywhere id do that, the corner black things are like things you push down, do i push all 4 down and get someone else to pull it out maybe?

i just dont want to rag it off and break it you see

You need to rotate them in an anti-clockwise direction.
Usually they have a groove with an arrow pointing in that direction to remove them.
Once you turn them, they will have a bit of "give" when they release from the board.

Antneedshelp! · 10-18-2006, 06:52 AM

hi i took the fan and big silver thing off

im looking at this now: http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...6/STP60132.jpg

what shall i do put a blob of that artic silver on it and put it back on?

Antneedshelp! · 10-18-2006, 08:53 AM

the artic silver has been supplied sucessfull and ive put everything back

guess what!

doesnt friggin work.

im not convinced its a heat issue, there was already some similar stuff to arctic silver on and all [3] fans are workin fine, anyone any ideas?

if you could help, id be extremely grateful x

**Done_Fishin** · 10-18-2006, 11:05 AM

According to the Manual that I have downloaded for your board there is a POST INDICATOR on the motherboard and there is a POST guide at the back of the manual Appendix E

Re Memory , the motherboard does not support double sided x 16 DIMMS and says to use only DDR SDRAM ... does this help??

10-09-2006, 07:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
Antneedshelp! Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 241 OS: Xp My System	Power, bleeps but no start up Hi, I installed [fitted] a new motherboard in a computer I had. I used all the same components except for new memory that fit this motherboard [512mb DDR 2100] its a Epox 4BDA533 motherboard, anyway, I put it all in and I m fairly certain its all plugged in right and whatnot but when I turn it on the fans start and the power boots up but the monitor doesn’t do anything and after around 7 seconds some bleeping fades in, the bleeps are one long [2 second] bleep followed by a short [1 second] bleep, these bleeps repeat without stopping, like a siren. Anyone got any advice? My system info is: ATI RADEON 9200 RV280LE/SE Creative SoundBlaster sound card Aztec modem Pentium 4 CPU 1.6ghz 20gb HD [which I m replacing but does work, its unformatted also] 512mb RAM I don’t know if the RAM works, but I’ve checked if its seated correctly numerous times, I’ve also done the same with the graphics card, which I’ve tested. Although I know it works the monitor not coming on suggests it could be that, doesn’t it? I’m on Award Bios also Thank you for any help x

10-09-2006, 07:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
Doby Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central PA (USA) Posts: 8,056 OS: XP sp2/ Vista My System	You mentioned the "bleeps" sound like a siren, something like a European police siren, wee woo wee woo. If so this is cpu overheat, make sure the heatsink is tight. Did you use thermal paste? If you reused the cpu and heatsink did you clean and reapply thermal paste? __________________ Would you like to help TSF fight cancer and other diseases??? JOIN TEAM TSF

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10-09-2006, 08:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
Doby Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central PA (USA) Posts: 8,056 OS: XP sp2/ Vista My System	Ok, you are going to have to clean and reappy the thermal paste on the cpu heatsink, I recomend using Artic silver http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm follow thier instructions on the same site to clean and reapply. If you follow these instructions and your cpu fan is connected to the correct place on the motherboard and the heatsink is tight then you will have no heat issue. We must make sure the cpu is not over heating before we continue so please follow this advice and then post back __________________ Would you like to help TSF fight cancer and other diseases??? JOIN TEAM TSF

10-10-2006, 05:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
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10-09-2006, 08:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
Antneedshelp! Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 241 OS: Xp My System	hi, i think ive found out what it is, im using a pentium 4 processor and it needs a 4 pin power lead aswell as a 20 pin one and i was using the old PSU from my other computer that just had a 20 pin plug, does that sound like it could be the cause?

10-09-2006, 08:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
Antneedshelp! Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 241 OS: Xp My System	yeh like a wee woo sound Advance is the make of the PSU model number mxa-300ptf 12v

10-10-2006, 02:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
Antneedshelp! Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 241 OS: Xp My System	thanks for your help, ill get looking into it x

10-13-2006, 12:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
Antneedshelp! Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 241 OS: Xp My System	is applying the stuff and takin the fan out and what not hard? ive never been near the processor before

10-13-2006, 06:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
Doby Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central PA (USA) Posts: 8,056 OS: XP sp2/ Vista My System	If you follow the instructions cleaning/ appling the artic silver is easy, I am not all that familiar with that cpu/heatsink but the last time I did one I don't remember problems at all but I have heard others complain the heatsink is a bear to get clamped down. Maybe someone else who does alot of intels will respond __________________ Would you like to help TSF fight cancer and other diseases??? JOIN TEAM TSF

10-16-2006, 10:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
Antneedshelp! Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 241 OS: Xp My System	hi, heres a pic of my CPU and fan http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...ley06/best.jpg how do i get the fan and stuff off? i dont want to break anything by pulling it! cheers x

10-16-2006, 06:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
Doby Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central PA (USA) Posts: 8,056 OS: XP sp2/ Vista My System	http://www.intel.com/support/processors/pentium4/sb/cs-012895.htm Here are some instructions available to download, there is both removal and installation __________________ Would you like to help TSF fight cancer and other diseases??? JOIN TEAM TSF

10-17-2006, 03:23 AM	#13 (permalink)
Antneedshelp! Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 241 OS: Xp My System	thats not like mine though, mine has 4 clips in each corner

10-17-2006, 07:12 PM	#14 (permalink)
Doby Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Central PA (USA) Posts: 8,056 OS: XP sp2/ Vista My System	That must be some sort of after market heatsink I'll get one of the intel guys to have a look. __________________ Would you like to help TSF fight cancer and other diseases??? JOIN TEAM TSF

10-17-2006, 07:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
chauffeur2 Manager Emeritus Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 10,180 OS: Xp Sp3 with all updates + Vista™ Ultimate SP1. My System	G'Day Antneedshelp!, Doby asked me to have a look at your problem. Now to remove your Fan/Heatsink [going by the photo that you posted]; try this... In each of the 4 corners you will see a Black 'Pin' with a groove with an arrow on it. Take a small flat-headed screwdriver, and turn the pin until it releases from the motherboard; unplug the CPU Fan from the board, and the whole heatsink/fan unit will now be able to be lifted from the board so that you can continue with Doby's instructions. __________________ Dave T. Submit New Articles If it works, Don't fix it! Especially if Bill Gates had anything to do with it!!

10-18-2006, 03:46 AM	#16 (permalink)
Antneedshelp! Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 241 OS: Xp My System	i cant see anywhere id do that, the corner black things are like things you push down, do i push all 4 down and get someone else to pull it out maybe? i just dont want to rag it off and break it you see

10-18-2006, 06:52 AM	#18 (permalink)
Antneedshelp! Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 241 OS: Xp My System	hi i took the fan and big silver thing off im looking at this now: http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m...6/STP60132.jpg what shall i do put a blob of that artic silver on it and put it back on?

10-18-2006, 08:53 AM	#19 (permalink)
Antneedshelp! Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 241 OS: Xp My System	the artic silver has been supplied sucessfull and ive put everything back guess what! doesnt friggin work. im not convinced its a heat issue, there was already some similar stuff to arctic silver on and all [3] fans are workin fine, anyone any ideas? if you could help, id be extremely grateful x

10-18-2006, 11:05 AM	#20 (permalink)
Done_Fishin Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brit living in Greece Posts: 7,269 OS: WinME, WinXP Pro SP3, Win7 Beta, Ubuntu 9.04 & Netbook Remix & CD2USB, Mepis 6.5, Fedora 10 My System	According to the Manual that I have downloaded for your board there is a POST INDICATOR on the motherboard and there is a POST guide at the back of the manual Appendix E Re Memory , the motherboard does not support double sided x 16 DIMMS and says to use only DDR SDRAM ... does this help??