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Old 08-07-2006, 09:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Help overclocking my p4?

Here's my rig. I've tried getting into the bios a few different ways, but have had no luck. Can I use clockgen? Help!!







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Old 08-07-2006, 03:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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first off lets take take of the "I told you so" thing.

Overclocking can harm your computer components and void your warranty.

now that thats over with!

install the Asus AI Booster found on your motherboard CD that will help you overclock the easiest, and its done from within windows >>>> no need to enter bios anymore

keep us posted on your progress
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Old 08-07-2006, 10:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Also, go in slow increments, and run that for a while to see if it's stable. Increase FSB speeds by 5 or 10 at a time, and back down a few notches when you've reached the threshold.

This will cause unneccesary stress on components as linderman hinted to, often shortening their service life and you will also see a rise in temperature. Prescotts are known to be little furnaces, so be sure you have an adequate cooling solution.

I OC'd my board, and found my bottleneck to be my memory, it's not stable past 875 mzh.
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first off lets take take of the "I told you so" thing.

Overclocking can harm your computer components and void your warranty.

now that thats over with!

install the Asus AI Booster found on your motherboard CD that will help you overclock the easiest, and its done from within windows >>>> no need to enter bios anymore

keep us posted on your progress
My compaq came stock with no motherboard CD. Also, my cpu's temperature is usually about 40-45 degrees celcius when running the fan at 100%

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Old 08-08-2006, 04:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Go here -- > http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us , input your model and select to see only utilities. If AI Booster is available, it'll show up and you can toy around :)
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I used THIS to learn how to overclock my P4. I avoided some of the difficulty though by buying high quality and high speed RAM so that only my motherboard and processor were overclocked.
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Old 08-08-2006, 09:53 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Probably a dumb newb question, but how do I find out my model # for my motherboard?
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Old 08-08-2006, 10:54 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Everest will tell you everything you need to know about your components. Go to Computer > Summary for the motherboard model.

Make sure your cooling system (fans, airflow etc) is up to the job after overclocking, and replace the thermal compund on your CPU to keep the temperatures down.
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Old 08-08-2006, 12:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Here's my temperatures for my computer. Are they too hot?
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Old 08-08-2006, 01:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I don't think clockgen recognizes my chipset. I guess I'll have to go into my bios(which I haven't been able to get into). On another forum someone said my bios could be locked and I would be unable to get into them.
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Your CPU and ambient look alright. Your harddrives are close to burning up though. Harddrives start to fail after about 55C, so they generally should sit idle at about 30-35. Try getting an intake fan to go at the front bottom of your case to blow air onto your harddrives.
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Your CPU and ambient look alright. Your harddrives are close to burning up though. Harddrives start to fail after about 55C, so they generally should sit idle at about 30-35. Try getting an intake fan to go at the front bottom of your case to blow air onto your harddrives.
Earlier today I turned the 1 fan that blows air out of the case around so it blows air into the case thinking that that would help cooling. Well doing that must have heated up the hard drives for whatever reason. I turned it back around back to the way it was and now my temperatures read.




I gotta get a new case. This computer originally cost $400. I've upgraded it to 1.25GB of ram, ATI X1800XT 256MB, my hard drive died so I had got a new 160GB one, got a 500 watt power supply with duel 12v rails, and I got a 19" lcd monitor.
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Your harddrive temperatures are still a bit high for my liking. If you can put a fan in the front of your case, try that.
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The name of the game with computers NOW is air circulation

every computer I build for customers has 240mm of fan air flow as a minimum


give this some thought when buying a new case


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1 @ 120mm fan
2 @ 80mm fans

or two 120mm fans is ideal !!

look at the collermaster cases on newegg.com some are very reasonable if your budget is tight ???
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Budget isn't really tight. I guess I'm looking to spend $50-$100 on a case...not looking to buy right now, but maybe in the next 1 or 2 months.
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for some reason your hard drives are far hotter than they should be. They should be 30C - 34C at low load & max heat of 35-38C when pushed real hard like dvd encoding or music burning / gaming etc

you must first have you temps under super control before overclocking
as temps are going to go up >>>> i dont care who wants to agrue that point!

When your case temps go up >>>> your psu puts out less wattage and a whole slew of problems begin >>> hot video cards arent pretty either

judging by your current system temps you arent ready for OC'ing unless you want to play with a 3- 7% tid bit

give us your motherboard model off the everest report >>>> if you are lucky you may be able to use a verison of AI Booster with your board.

Ram: has alot to do with the success of overclocking: Right now I am using CAS 3 PC3200 good quality ram sticks >>> not awesome quality or perfromance modules >>>> I am unable to keep a VERY stead overclock of 15% with a P4 3.0 & a 3.2 prescott it will run about 85% of the time stable but freezes do occur

when I back off to a 10% overclock its very stable

I am guessing if I had the high perfromance memory installed like the corsair XMS or Crucial Ballstix with timings of 2-2-3-6 then I would be able to sustain 15% all the time.

however: I can't see any real noticible gain from the 10% to the 15% overclock >>>> so there is gonna be a struggle to pull the extra green outta my pocket to buy the high perfromance memory
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Here's the info on my motherboard. Anyone have any good suggestions for a good case in the $50-$110 dollar range? I'd rather have cooling rather than styling...it doesn't have to look cool or anything.

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Can anyone tell me my motherboard model?
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Your Compaq PC was never designed to overclock despite the fact that ASUS made the mobo. It takes more than just the ability to raise the clock to have a meaningfull and stable overclock.

When you start raising the clock it raises everything with it, CPU, FSB and Ram speed. At some point, and I suspect it will not be too high a point, you will encounter instability most likely with the Ram chips.

A motherboard designed for overclocking has many adjustments including Clock speed, CPU and Ram voltage, Ram clock divider, Ram timing and in some cases CPU Clock multiplier.

Systems builders that build PCs with overclocking in mind usually use components that are beyond what is required at stock speeds and use CPU and case cooling methods that are also beyond what a proprietary PC builder like Compaq would use. This is not something where you can just pump up the clock without considering all of these factors and having the adjustments required to make a overclocked system stable.
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Sorry to change the subject but I wanted to ask a quick question. I wanted to buy a new computer case. I've had mine for a few years now and wanted to get one with a decent price with good airflow, any ideas?
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