Over voltage

Subaman · 05-22-2006, 01:02 AM

Hi everyone, I am after some advice as to what my problem may be, my system is a Gigabyte GA-81PE1000-G Rev3 ,Intel Pentium 4 Prescott,3EGHz,Legend DDR400 512MB x 2 ,256MB ATI Radeon 9259 ,2 x 80gig Seagate Barracuda, anyway it has been running sweet for 12 months now, that is until the other night, I was on my way out the door the otherday when passing my computer I saw a message on the screen, I cant remember it word for word but is said something like "something or other has detected an overvoltage or abnormal voltage in USB ports and will be shut down", as I was on my way out I just clicked on "ok" and headed out with the intention of looking into more when I returned. When I finally got back to look at it many hours later it had shut itself down and has never worked since, it simply wont post a thing, the CPU and case fans start and thats it, no display on the screen, no lights flash on the keyboard, just nothing, I have cleared the cmos, removed the battery for 30 mins but still no good. with the board stripped down to nothing but the cpu I get continuous high speed beeps. Can anyone suggest what may have went wrong or anything to try to get it fired up again, or even just how to tell if I need to replace the cpu or the board. I run a $150 Dick Smith surge and spike protection power board so I dont think the problem is caused by a surge.
Any help much appreciated as I use this system for work and am really struggling with out it.

Thanks in advance
Grant

Inactive · 05-22-2006, 01:41 AM

i would replace the PSU before anything else. you didn't state what the PSU was, but you can go here to calculate the PSU you need. add 30% and then get one to match your power needs. there is a list below showing PSU makes and their quality.

ATX Power Supplies - Brands from A to Z

*** RATED BY QUALITY ***

Key
H = High Quality (Good Solid Reliable Brand)
L = Low Quality (Cheap Generic)
M = Medium Quality (In-between)
U = Unknown

A-Power................L
A-Top..................L
A+GPB..................L
AcBel..................L
AC Ryan (Ryanpower)....L
Aerocool...............U
AG.....................L
Ahanix.................L
Akasa..................L
Allied.................L
Antec..................M/H
AOpen..................L
APC....................L
Apex Allied............L
Aspire.................L/M
Astec..................L
Athena.................L
BFG....................L
Broadway Gaming........U
Channel Well...........L
CHAS...................L
Chenbro................U
Chieftec...............L
Coba...................L
Codegen................L
Conrad.................M
CoolerMaster...........H
CoolMax................M
Crystal................L
Dell...................L
Delta..................L
Diablo.................L
Eagle..................L
Echo Star..............L
Enermax................H
Engleking..............M
Enlight................M
Epson..................L
FDK....................L
Fortron (FSP)..........H
Gateway................L
Gazelle Multimedia.....L
Global Marketing.......L
GPower.................L
Guardian...............L
Herolchi...............M
Hipro..................L
HP/Compaq..............L
HPC International......L
Huntkey................L
I-Star.................L
IBM Redundant..........U (expensive)
Intel Redundant........U (expensive)
In Win.................L
Jaguar.................U
Kensington.............L
Kingwin................L
L&C....................L
Leadman................L
Levicom................L
LiteOn.................U
Logisys................U
Mad Dog................L/M
Maxtron................L
MGE....................L
MGE Vortec.............M
MorningStar............L
NEC....................L
Newton.................L
Nexus..................L
Noise Magic............L
NorthQ.................M
Nspire.................L
OCZ....................H
Omega..................L
Packard Bell...........L
PC Power & Cooling.....H
PC-World (PCW).........L
PCMCIS.................U
Power..................L
PowerStream............L
PowerTek...............L
PowerUp................L
PowMax.................L
PowMax XPower..........L
Premium................L
Pyramid................L
Q-Tec..................L
Q-Technology...........L
RaidMax................U
Real Power.............L
Rosewill...............L
SCS....................L
SeaSonic...............H
Shuttle................L
Silent Purepower.......U
SilenX.................L
Silverstone............H
Sky Hawk (Eagle Tech)..L
Sparkle................H
Star Micronics.........L
StarTech...............L
Sun....................L
SuperFlower............L
Supermicro.............L
Tagan..................H
Task...................L
ThermalTake............M
Topower................L
Tri-Mag................L
TSP....................L
Tyan Tiger.............L
TTGI...................L
Ultra-Power Computer...L
Ultra..................M
Ultra X-Connect........L
Vantec.................H
Verax..................H
Vigor..................U
Xion...................L
xPCgear................L
Zalman.................H
Zippy..................L

Subaman · 05-22-2006, 02:44 AM

Thanks for the reply, I just changed the PSU but no difference.

~~mountcarlmore~~ · 05-22-2006, 04:27 AM

zippy is low?!

thats total bull...

Tumbleweed36 · 05-22-2006, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mountcarlmore

zippy is low?!

thats total bull...

Hi mountcasrlmore,

We have found that not every one on this list is slotted in the correct analysis. To be quite honest, one of our Moderators (Whosdat) did research and compiled this list from information that he found. IT is my understanding that the suppies on this list have been tested and rated. I just don't know the sources he used to compile and update the list as needed.

Since we have found some power supplies on the list don't meet the criteria (like you mentioned Zippy) for the rating they received, we as a hardware team have re-evaluated some of them and changed their status or priority from what has done when we found evidence to the contrary.

Therefore, if you have information or evidence from testing or personal usage that would indicate that Zippy is not rated apprpriately, we would appreciate any experiences or evidence that the accuracy is not correct.

Feel free to post or PM that information to me so I can forward it to the appropriate person on the hardware team and they can take a look at the information. Thanks for sharing.

Subaman · 05-22-2006, 02:22 PM

is it possible for short or electrical fault to somehow erase the bios?

dai · 05-22-2006, 03:00 PM

have you disconnected all the usb before trying to restart
what power supply did you buy

Subaman · 05-22-2006, 04:29 PM

Hi, yeah I have stripped the computer down to just the basics, nothing attached except for key board and mouse.I have tried a Codegen 300w and an XSonic 400w, if the bios has been erased somehow there is no way to get it back is there?

**linderman** · 05-22-2006, 05:09 PM

Yes; you can replace your bios chip cheaply by going to ebay and typing a search for "bios chip"

I dont think that is your problem though. Try a PCI slot video card and pull your current AGP card. If you dont have a PCI slot card >>>> you can generally pick one up dirt cheap ($5.00) at any PC repair shop. It does not have to be any wiz bang card; just plain old vanilla; for testings sake

Those PSU's you have will be very under powered for that system >>> you should be running at least 500 watts >>>> a good reasonable priced one is the Antec SP-500 for $68.00 I have not seen a PSU that can be bought for less thats any good .

Does the CPU fan spin and stay running ?????? >>>>> it it does then the CPU self test is passing >>>> try the board with only stick of memory

post back your troubleshooting results

dai · 05-22-2006, 06:01 PM

joe he will not a decent power supply here for less than double that,it just cost me close on $300 for a silverstone
go here and check what the bios beeps are telling you is wrong
www.bioscentral.com
they will pinpoint the problem,thats what they are for

Subaman · 05-22-2006, 06:27 PM

Thanks for the reply Joe, firstly yes the cpu fan spins and keeps spinning I, tried a sis6326 pci card in every slot, still no luck, tried a single ram stick in every slot, still nothing, one thing I did notice though is the intel chip on the motherboard gets extremely hot, so hot that you cant touch it, is this normal?
Cheers
Grant

Subaman · 05-22-2006, 06:41 PM

It isnt really doing any beep codes,only when I pull the ram and then start it but then it isnt a code it is beeping, it is just continual fast beeping as in 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.
Cheers
Grant

CatalystNZ · 12-11-2008, 02:00 PM

I have the same problem (Same motherboard), however it's only if I bank the ram together to run in Dual Channel Mode... (So running two identical ram sticks in ram slots 1 and 3 to go to dual channel mode).

I have a feeling it's because the video card to too crappy to support running the ram at dual channel.

Have you tried running your ram in single channel mode? (Either take one stick out as suggested above, or read the manual for more info)...

You probably havn't as you posted this in 2006 ... but if you had listened to linderman above you may have sorted this out :P

05-22-2006, 01:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
Subaman Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 7 OS: XP PRO	Over voltage Hi everyone, I am after some advice as to what my problem may be, my system is a Gigabyte GA-81PE1000-G Rev3 ,Intel Pentium 4 Prescott,3EGHz,Legend DDR400 512MB x 2 ,256MB ATI Radeon 9259 ,2 x 80gig Seagate Barracuda, anyway it has been running sweet for 12 months now, that is until the other night, I was on my way out the door the otherday when passing my computer I saw a message on the screen, I cant remember it word for word but is said something like "something or other has detected an overvoltage or abnormal voltage in USB ports and will be shut down", as I was on my way out I just clicked on "ok" and headed out with the intention of looking into more when I returned. When I finally got back to look at it many hours later it had shut itself down and has never worked since, it simply wont post a thing, the CPU and case fans start and thats it, no display on the screen, no lights flash on the keyboard, just nothing, I have cleared the cmos, removed the battery for 30 mins but still no good. with the board stripped down to nothing but the cpu I get continuous high speed beeps. Can anyone suggest what may have went wrong or anything to try to get it fired up again, or even just how to tell if I need to replace the cpu or the board. I run a $150 Dick Smith surge and spike protection power board so I dont think the problem is caused by a surge. Any help much appreciated as I use this system for work and am really struggling with out it. Thanks in advance Grant __________________ Gigabyte GA-81PE1000-G Rev3 ,Intel Pentium P4 Prescott 3EGHz,Legend DDR400 512MB x 2 256MB ATI Radeon 9259 ,2 x 80gig Seagate Barracuda Last edited by Subaman; 05-22-2006 at 01:06 AM.

05-22-2006, 01:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
Inactive Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,704 OS: ~	i would replace the PSU before anything else. you didn't state what the PSU was, but you can go here to calculate the PSU you need. add 30% and then get one to match your power needs. there is a list below showing PSU makes and their quality. ATX Power Supplies - Brands from A to Z * RATED BY QUALITY * Key H = High Quality (Good Solid Reliable Brand) L = Low Quality (Cheap Generic) M = Medium Quality (In-between) U = Unknown A-Power................L A-Top..................L A+GPB..................L AcBel..................L AC Ryan (Ryanpower)....L Aerocool...............U AG.....................L Ahanix.................L Akasa..................L Allied.................L Antec..................M/H AOpen..................L APC....................L Apex Allied............L Aspire.................L/M Astec..................L Athena.................L BFG....................L Broadway Gaming........U Channel Well...........L CHAS...................L Chenbro................U Chieftec...............L Coba...................L Codegen................L Conrad.................M CoolerMaster...........H CoolMax................M Crystal................L Dell...................L Delta..................L Diablo.................L Eagle..................L Echo Star..............L Enermax................H Engleking..............M Enlight................M Epson..................L FDK....................L Fortron (FSP)..........H Gateway................L Gazelle Multimedia.....L Global Marketing.......L GPower.................L Guardian...............L Herolchi...............M Hipro..................L HP/Compaq..............L HPC International......L Huntkey................L I-Star.................L IBM Redundant..........U (expensive) Intel Redundant........U (expensive) In Win.................L Jaguar.................U Kensington.............L Kingwin................L L&C....................L Leadman................L Levicom................L LiteOn.................U Logisys................U Mad Dog................L/M Maxtron................L MGE....................L MGE Vortec.............M MorningStar............L NEC....................L Newton.................L Nexus..................L Noise Magic............L NorthQ.................M Nspire.................L OCZ....................H Omega..................L Packard Bell...........L PC Power & Cooling.....H PC-World (PCW).........L PCMCIS.................U Power..................L PowerStream............L PowerTek...............L PowerUp................L PowMax.................L PowMax XPower..........L Premium................L Pyramid................L Q-Tec..................L Q-Technology...........L RaidMax................U Real Power.............L Rosewill...............L SCS....................L SeaSonic...............H Shuttle................L Silent Purepower.......U SilenX.................L Silverstone............H Sky Hawk (Eagle Tech)..L Sparkle................H Star Micronics.........L StarTech...............L Sun....................L SuperFlower............L Supermicro.............L Tagan..................H Task...................L ThermalTake............M Topower................L Tri-Mag................L TSP....................L Tyan Tiger.............L TTGI...................L Ultra-Power Computer...L Ultra..................M Ultra X-Connect........L Vantec.................H Verax..................H Vigor..................U Xion...................L xPCgear................L Zalman.................H Zippy..................L __________________ "it takes two to lie, one to lie and one to listen" Homer

05-22-2006, 02:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
Subaman Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 7 OS: XP PRO	Thanks for the reply, I just changed the PSU but no difference. __________________ Gigabyte GA-81PE1000-G Rev3 ,Intel Pentium P4 Prescott 3EGHz,Legend DDR400 512MB x 2 256MB ATI Radeon 9259 ,2 x 80gig Seagate Barracuda

05-22-2006, 02:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
Subaman Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 7 OS: XP PRO	is it possible for short or electrical fault to somehow erase the bios? __________________ Gigabyte GA-81PE1000-G Rev3 ,Intel Pentium P4 Prescott 3EGHz,Legend DDR400 512MB x 2 256MB ATI Radeon 9259 ,2 x 80gig Seagate Barracuda

05-22-2006, 03:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 53,599 OS: vista 32x 64x ultimate retail	have you disconnected all the usb before trying to restart what power supply did you buy __________________

05-22-2006, 04:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
~~mountcarlmore~~ Register user Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 131 OS: XP/vistabeta2 My System	zippy is low?! thats total bull...

05-22-2006, 04:29 PM	#8 (permalink)
Subaman Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 7 OS: XP PRO	Hi, yeah I have stripped the computer down to just the basics, nothing attached except for key board and mouse.I have tried a Codegen 300w and an XSonic 400w, if the bios has been erased somehow there is no way to get it back is there? __________________ Gigabyte GA-81PE1000-G Rev3 ,Intel Pentium P4 Prescott 3EGHz,Legend DDR400 512MB x 2 256MB ATI Radeon 9259 ,2 x 80gig Seagate Barracuda

05-22-2006, 05:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 19,375 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Yes; you can replace your bios chip cheaply by going to ebay and typing a search for "bios chip" I dont think that is your problem though. Try a PCI slot video card and pull your current AGP card. If you dont have a PCI slot card >>>> you can generally pick one up dirt cheap ($5.00) at any PC repair shop. It does not have to be any wiz bang card; just plain old vanilla; for testings sake Those PSU's you have will be very under powered for that system >>> you should be running at least 500 watts >>>> a good reasonable priced one is the Antec SP-500 for $68.00 I have not seen a PSU that can be bought for less thats any good . Does the CPU fan spin and stay running ?????? >>>>> it it does then the CPU self test is passing >>>> try the board with only stick of memory post back your troubleshooting results __________________ Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day ! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

05-22-2006, 06:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 53,599 OS: vista 32x 64x ultimate retail	joe he will not a decent power supply here for less than double that,it just cost me close on $300 for a silverstone go here and check what the bios beeps are telling you is wrong www.bioscentral.com they will pinpoint the problem,thats what they are for __________________

05-22-2006, 06:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
Subaman Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 7 OS: XP PRO	Thanks for the reply Joe, firstly yes the cpu fan spins and keeps spinning I, tried a sis6326 pci card in every slot, still no luck, tried a single ram stick in every slot, still nothing, one thing I did notice though is the intel chip on the motherboard gets extremely hot, so hot that you cant touch it, is this normal? Cheers Grant __________________ Gigabyte GA-81PE1000-G Rev3 ,Intel Pentium P4 Prescott 3EGHz,Legend DDR400 512MB x 2 256MB ATI Radeon 9259 ,2 x 80gig Seagate Barracuda

05-22-2006, 06:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
Subaman Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 7 OS: XP PRO	It isnt really doing any beep codes,only when I pull the ram and then start it but then it isnt a code it is beeping, it is just continual fast beeping as in 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1. Cheers Grant __________________ Gigabyte GA-81PE1000-G Rev3 ,Intel Pentium P4 Prescott 3EGHz,Legend DDR400 512MB x 2 256MB ATI Radeon 9259 ,2 x 80gig Seagate Barracuda

12-11-2008, 02:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
CatalystNZ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1 OS: XP	Re: Over voltage I have the same problem (Same motherboard), however it's only if I bank the ram together to run in Dual Channel Mode... (So running two identical ram sticks in ram slots 1 and 3 to go to dual channel mode). I have a feeling it's because the video card to too crappy to support running the ram at dual channel. Have you tried running your ram in single channel mode? (Either take one stick out as suggested above, or read the manual for more info)... You probably havn't as you posted this in 2006 ... but if you had listened to linderman above you may have sorted this out :P