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Old 04-11-2009, 12:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Having trouble with Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-K17LF ATA Device

Like my friend with another tread before, i put my Dvd in the tray but it cannot be read.

I've tried to delete low and up filters, but nothing changed .

These are some info that might help :

1) i share conection with more 3 computers trought a modem [ all of them are vista ]
2) in the 3 pc's Dvd's can't be read.
3) this problems occurred when i made an update in my auto-updater from vista.

And when i double click the ''empty'' driver, it appers the following : '' put a disc in the driver ''

help pls !
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Old 04-11-2009, 08:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Having trouble with Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-K17LF ATA Device

You said it cannot read DVD discs, but how about CD discs? Can you boot from the CD/DVD drive using a bootable disc?
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Re: Having trouble with Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-K17LF ATA Device

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I'm sorry for this stupid question, but what does it mean to ''Can you boot from the CD/DVD drive using a bootable disc?''


And yes, i can read Cd's, but not Dvd's.


Can u help me out? :3
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Old 04-11-2009, 11:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Having trouble with Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-K17LF ATA Device

Test your drive in a different computer. If it can read both DVD and CD media discs there then there must be a problem in your computer. However if symptom persists (can read CD but not DVD) then you have a dead drive. Replace the drive.
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Re: Having trouble with Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-K17LF ATA Device

The fact is,

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1) i share conection with more 3 computers trought a modem [ all of them are vista ]
2) in the 3 pc's Dvd's can't be read ''

It couldn't be a device failure in the 3 computers...
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The fact is,


1) i share conection with more 3 computers trought a modem [ all of them are vista ] -- Sorry for the ignorance but how is this 'connection' related to the drive?
2) in the 3 pc's Dvd's can't be read -- If you have moved the drive to each of the computers and the problem is also transferring from one computer the other then you need a new drive.

It couldn't be a device failure in the 3 computers...
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Re: Having trouble with Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-K17LF ATA Device

The thing is, they are 3 diferent computers operating with 3 diferent drives, all from this Pioneer Dvd-rw.


And i don't know if it's coincidence, but it might have failed after a windwos vista update.

And a friend told me that could be a virus in the modem.

So i don't know
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Re: Having trouble with Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-K17LF ATA Device

Hi Applepi3.....
I had worked on a toshiba laptop once with the same issue .....
it updated vista and after it restarted, u could not find the D: drive, which is the DVDrw/CDrw drive....What i found out was, with vista the registry gets corrupted and so it show it missing....u have to search for a small registry fix
called CDrom out ....i don't think i have it but i will search my flash drives
for it and post it later.....

Thanks in advance
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The thing is, they are 3 diferent computers operating with 3 diferent drives, all from this Pioneer Dvd-rw.


And i don't know if it's coincidence, but it might have failed after a windwos vista update.

And a friend told me that could be a virus in the modem.

So i don't know
Try a new drive or a good working drive... if it is a virus, the 'new' drive will behave the same way like the old one. But if the new drive can read both CDs and DVDs then you know your old drive is DYING (if not DEAD)!

As for the registry fix... try this:
You can no longer access the CD/DVD drive or Code 31 or Code 37
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Try a new drive or a good working drive... if it is a virus, the 'new' drive will behave the same way like the old one. But if the new drive can read both CDs and DVDs then you know your old drive is DYING (if not DEAD)!

As for the registry fix... try this:
You can no longer access the CD/DVD drive or Code 31 or Code 37

The registry fix you send me was a lowfilter and upfilter removal, which i have already done without success


Thx for trying tough Trigger
But i still have no idea what hapenned... i hope its is what eliang said...
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The registry fix you send me was a lowfilter and upfilter removal, which i have already done without success


Thx for trying tough Trigger
But i still have no idea what hapenned... i hope its is what eliang said...
I had that feeling that it will NOT work because all indications point to a dead drive. In fact I really wonder why you did not consider the suggestion of trying a new or another drive (good and working drive at that). Using a new drive or a good working drive will make your isolation and troubleshooting simple.

I understand if you are hoping that there is a tweak for this but by the looks of it, there is none. Fact is, these things fail and like everything else, you need to replace them when they break.
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I had that feeling that it will NOT work because all indications point to a dead drive. In fact I really wonder why you did not consider the suggestion of trying a new or another drive (good and working drive at that). Using a new drive or a good working drive will make your isolation and troubleshooting simple.

I understand if you are hoping that there is a tweak for this but by the looks of it, there is none. Fact is, these things fail and like everything else, you need to replace them when they break.
but but... i have already tested in another computer ... with a diferent driver ...and it worked .

What makes me mad is that the 3 computers i have here in my house, ALL vista, and it failed that same drive... [after this update. ]

that's why i think our friend here has some points in this ''theory'' of failing drive.
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So you tried the drive in another computer and it worked? You used the same DVDs that were not read before? Where is this drive connected/installed? If you can shed some light on how the 3 computers share the drive may be that could help us picture how and what you are doing.
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So you tried the drive in another computer and it worked? You used the same DVDs that were not read before? Where is this drive connected/installed? If you can shed some light on how the 3 computers share the drive may be that could help us picture how and what you are doing.
Not exactly ... look

They are 3 different computers operating with 3 *different* drives [ all the same dvr-k17f i mentioned up there ]

And all of them, after this update i told u, failed.

I'm working in a laptop, and installing devices by myself is quite impossible XD
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Oh ok I think I get it now. So here's what we know so far:
  • You have three different computers, each with its own Pioneer DVD-RW drives (same models on all three).
  • All three cannot read DVD discs.
  • Problem started after an automatic update of Vista.
  • That means all three are on Vista OS

If this started after an automatic update, may be you can (if you have not done so yet) go back to a restore point before the update happened. This can be done in Vista (steps here - http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...ystem-restore/).

Another way I can think of (aside from doing a restore) is to uninstall the device (DVD) in Device Manager. Reboot. Open Device Manager and do a scan for new hardware.
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Omg , i did both options, both failed =( ~ .

I even checked if the new drive installed had the up//lowfilters, but nothing.


I'm gonnga format this $%&t .
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Do you have a bootable DVD disc? I believe Vista install disc is in DVD, may be you can try booting from it as if you are doing a new install of Vista (of course you would not proceed with the install... just use the disc to boot the computer until you see the Vista installation menu). If the computer can boot using DVD disc then you can conclude that your hardware is really good... a reinstall of Vista would be appropriate if you cannot go back to a previous restore point.
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