which laptop?

**magnethead** · 06-01-2008, 10:16 PM

ok, I'm going to college for Mechanical Engineering. So I'll be doing things like 3 dimension CAD, watching videos/DVD's, word processing, the works. However, I don't expect to game. I have a budget of about 8-900 dollars, but I want a real good waranty if possible too- because we all know laptops can get quirky under load, and it's not like we can reach in, pull the failed piece out, and replace it. But i will need a long battery.

What are your opinions?

I'm slowly leaning towards the Acer. Not only is it the cheapest, it's forward thinking. Though it has the slowest CPU of the group, the 2MB Cache and 667 FSB make up for it. In addition, C2D's tend to be good on power if treated right. It's an inch smaller screen wise, but who could tell the difference? 3 GB of RAM is a big plus. I dont care for the webcam/mic, but they beat external USB unit's i'm sure. For the price range, I'm leary of what brand the HDD is bing it's 320 GB. It doesn't have S-video out (i'm not sure if i'll need it or not) but has VGA instead- fine since it can plus directly to the analog in of my 19" monitor. No firewire sets it back, but i wouldnt dare try video editing on a laptop. Website says a 6 cell battery and 1 yr lmtd warranty.

Pick 1: Dell 1525 - $960

I like dell for customability, but what a price! They just budgeted themselves right out of the picture unless warranty's or battery life come into play.

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Inspiron 1525

 
 
  
 Date   6/1/2008 11:15:38 PM Central Standard Time 
 
 Catalog Number   29 Retail 19 
 
 
 
 Catalog Number / Description   Product Code   SKU   Id 
 
 
 
 System Color:
Jet Black   BLK   [313-5773]   2 
 
  
 Inspiron 1525:
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T5550 (1.83GHz/667Mhz FSB/2MB cache)   SP555HN   [223-6781]   1 
 
  
 Operating System:
Genuine Windows Vista® SP1 Home Premium Edition   VHP31E   [420-5769][420-5924][420-6436][420-7580][420-7622][420-7905][420-9108][463-2282]   11 
 
  
 LCD Panel:
Glossy, widescreen 15.4 inch display (1280x800)   15XGAT   [320-6047]   5 
 
  
 Video Card:
Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100   INTAC   [320-6059]   6 
 
  
 Memory:
2GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 at 667MHz   2G2D   [311-7806]   3 
 
  
 Hard Drive:
80GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)   80GB   [341-5615]   8 
 
  
 Combo or DVD+RW Drive:
CD / DVD Writer (DVD+/-RW Drive)   8XDVDRW   [313-5791][420-8183]   16 
 
  
 Wireless Networking Cards:
Dell Wireless 1395 802.11g Mini-Card   DW1395   [430-2652]   19 
 
  
 Camera:
No Webcam Option   DNCAMER   [313-5786]   21 
 
  
 Battery Options:
56Whr Lithium Ion Battery (6 cell)   6BAT   [312-0617]   27 
 
  
 Sound Card:
High Definition Audio 2.0   IS   [313-4783]   17 
 
  
 Network:
Integrated 10/100 Network Card   INTNIC   [430-2651]   13 
 
  
 Modem:
Integrated Modem   I56NM   [313-5793]   14 
 
  
 Adobe Software:
Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 8.1   ADOBER   [420-7468]   15 
 
  
 Labels:
Windows Vista™ Premium   VPN   [310-8628]   750 
 
  
 Labels:
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor   IC2DNB   [310-8319]   749 
 
  
 Anti-Virus/Security Suite (Pre-installed):
No Security   NOAV   [461-8389]   25 
 
  
 Office Productivity Software (Pre-Installed):
No Productivity software pre-installed   MSONO   [412-1397]   22 
 
  
 Warranty & Service:
2Yr In-Home Service, Parts + Labor, 24x7 Phone Support   S2OS   [412-0360][900-8221][950-3338][960-2780][970-2081][984-1930][989-3867][989-3868]   29 
 
  
 DataSafe Online Backup:
Included 3 GB DataSafe Online Backup for 1Yr   DATSF3G   [420-7091][420-7092][987-4817][988-0099]   813 
 
  
 Dial-Up Internet Access:
No ISP requested   NISP   [412-0148]   37

Pick 2: Acer Aspire AS6920-6621 - $700

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I had a friend with an Acer that I really liked. He abused it like no other in his book bag, and it survived well. Not sure what kind of warranty they have. However, both the dell and HP have faster CPU's. However, it does have 3 GB of RAM and a 2MB L2. No mention of a battery.

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Mid-size laptop: The Acer AS6920-6621 is a mid-size laptop, with above-average processing power and everything most people need for basic computing, entertainment and online communication. This model has premium features including powerful dual-core processing, a SuperMulti DVD drive, a built-in webcam and integrated fingerprint reader.

Dual core/64-bit processing: This laptop features the dual-core 1.83GHz Intel Core 2 Duo T5550 processor. The Core 2 Duo has two processing engines that work together, giving this processor much more power than standard 1.83GHz processors. This processor built on 64 bits architecture, enabling it to handle twice as much information as older 32-bit processors. Intel Centrino technology enhances mobile performance and extends battery life.

This laptop features 3GB of DDR2 system memory—enough for the most demanding users, gamers and multimedia professionals. DDR2 is slightly faster than DDR, the previous standard in system memory.
Data travels to the processor along the frontside bus. The faster data travels, the faster everything works. This laptop features a 667MHz frontside bus.
Processors search for the same data over and over. L2 caches keep this data neat, organized, and nearby so it can be retrieved more quickly. This 2MB L2 cache is large, providing a potentially significant boost in performance.
Hard drive: This hard drive features a 320GB capacity—perfect for robust collections of music, movies and multimedia. This drive’s data disks spin at 5400rpm. The faster they spin, the faster the data is read and written.

Blazing-fast wireless N: Built-in 802.11agn wireless LAN lets you take advantage of the speed of the latest and fastest networks, as well as networks using the most popular standards.

DVD SuperMulti drive: Use this drive to burn DVDs and CDs to share your files, music mixes or home movies. You can even burn DVD-RAM discs—specially-formatted discs that let you drag and drop, or write and rewrite your files up to 100,000 times.

Widescreen display: This laptop features an Acer CineCrystal 16" widescreen TFT LCD display with 1366 x 768 pixel resolution.

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (32-bit): Windows Vista Home Premium is the operating system for homes with advanced computer needs. And Vista Premium features the elegant new Aero interface. You’ll be able to use your laptop more effectively and enjoy new entertainment experiences—all with the benefit of added security and reliability.

Audio/video: This laptop features Intel Media Graphics Accelerator X3100 with 358MB of shared graphics memory, which is drawn from the main system memory. This video memory is perfect for everyday activities like casual movie watching or gaming. The two built-in Dolby Home Theater speakers and Acer CineBass Booster provide compelling 3D sound.

Media card reader: Seamlessly transfer images from your digital camera or camcorder. This 6-in-1 reader is compatible with Secure Digital, xD, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO, MultiMedia Card and MMC Plus.

ExpressCard/54 slot: This laptop supports ExpressCard, an emerging standard in smaller, faster PC card solutions. This slot is also compatible with ExpressCard/34—use it to add memory, graphics upgrades, security devices and more.

Fingerprint reader: This next-generation security protects your confidential data while allowing you instant access.

Built-in webcam/mic: Stay connected to family, friends or business associates wherever you go. Video chatting face-to-face is easy with the built-in Acer Crystal Eye webcam and microphone.

Media console: Enjoy a cinematic experience on-the-go with the integrated media controller

Pick 3: HP - Pavilion Laptop - $800

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I like the full size kayboard, but am not so fond of the off-center touchpad, easthetically. Once i use it, that might change. I like the idea of the hi-res display plus being 17", closer to what i'm used to and more room for everything. Not sure how AMD's rank vs intel on the power consumption. Not exactly a fan of only having 1M of L2 though...and that could get important. same RAM as the acer, 3 GB. Also, I like having a G70ish GPU, but 1GB of shared memory...is a bit much! Also, no mention of battery life. Also, being I wont be gaming, I dont know that I'd need the 7150 gfx card...that would save power.

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AMD Turion™ 64 X2 mobile technology TL-60* for AMD dual-core technology in a thin-and-light design; HyperTransport™ and AMD PowerNow!™ technologies and improved security with Enhanced Virus Protection** 
3GB DDR2 memory for multitasking power, expandable to 4GB 
Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive with double-layer support records up to 8.5GB of data or 4 hours of video using compatible media; supports DVD-RAM; also supports LightScribe direct-disc labels using compatible LightScribe media 
AMD dual-core technology enables you to work or play with multiple programs without impacting performance; AMD64 technology provides simultaneous support for 32-bit and 64-bit computing; 512KB + 512KB L2 cache memory for efficient processing 
17" WXGA+ high-definition widescreen display with BrightView technology and 1440 x 900 resolution 
250GB SATA hard drive (5400 rpm) 
NVIDIA GeForce Go 7150M (UMA) graphics with up to 1071MB shared video memory; S-video TV-out 
QuickPlay touch-sensitive music and DVD controls; HP mobile remote and ear bud headphones included 
Built-in HP Pavilion webcam and integrated microphone make it easy to chat with family and friends 
5-in-1 digital media reader supports Secure Digital, MultiMediaCard, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO and xD-Picture Card 
IEEE 1394 (FireWire) interface and 4 high-speed USB 2.0 ports for fast digital video, audio and data transfer 
Built-in high-speed wireless LAN (802.11b/g); 10/100Base-T Ethernet LAN with RJ-45 connector; 56 Kbps high-speed modem 
Weighs 7.7 lbs. and measures just 1.7" thin for portable power; lithium-ion battery and AC adapter 
Long-lasting, high-gloss HP Imprint Radiance wave finish 
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition operating system with Service Pack 1 (SP1) preinstalled; software package included with HP Photosmart Essentials, muvee autoProducer, Cyberlink DVD Suite and more

Rebellion88 · 06-02-2008, 04:13 AM

The Hp will offer some better performance in area's especially visually, but bearing in mind the bigger the screen will reduce battery life. Personally I would pick the HP first then the Acer as a 2nd choice. I've had two Acer's both been fantastic, great build and no problems. For CAD i would go for the best GPU and the most RAM going, and stay clear of the Dell.

**magnethead** · 06-02-2008, 09:17 AM

So you think the HP is the best choice? Like you said the big screen will cut battery life, but it will probably help out in the CAd department between the big screen and good gfx card, like you said. Thanks for your input.

Rebellion88 · 06-03-2008, 03:01 AM

The HP in my opinion would get the job done best and fit your needs, also doesn't limit you as much as the others would in the future.

**magnethead** · 06-03-2008, 09:45 AM

Cool thanks.

Rebellion88 · 06-03-2008, 04:07 PM

Your welcome glad to of helped.

**magnethead** · 06-04-2008, 04:40 PM

Well, went window shopping...and my dad came home $867 dollars poorer. I get to write him a big nice check.

06-02-2008, 04:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
Rebellion88 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 442 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit My System	Re: which laptop? The Hp will offer some better performance in area's especially visually, but bearing in mind the bigger the screen will reduce battery life. Personally I would pick the HP first then the Acer as a 2nd choice. I've had two Acer's both been fantastic, great build and no problems. For CAD i would go for the best GPU and the most RAM going, and stay clear of the Dell. __________________ - Dean National Diploma Software Development National Diploma Hardware Route

06-02-2008, 09:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,568 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: which laptop? So you think the HP is the best choice? Like you said the big screen will cut battery life, but it will probably help out in the CAd department between the big screen and good gfx card, like you said. Thanks for your input. __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System

06-03-2008, 03:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
Rebellion88 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 442 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit My System	Re: which laptop? The HP in my opinion would get the job done best and fit your needs, also doesn't limit you as much as the others would in the future. __________________ - Dean National Diploma Software Development National Diploma Hardware Route

06-03-2008, 09:45 AM	#5 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,568 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: which laptop? Cool thanks. __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System

06-03-2008, 04:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rebellion88 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 442 OS: Windows Vista Home Premium 32bit My System	Re: which laptop? Your welcome glad to of helped. __________________ - Dean National Diploma Software Development National Diploma Hardware Route

06-04-2008, 04:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
magnethead Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 3,568 OS: Vista ultimate 32bit My System Blog Entries: 3	Re: which laptop? Well, went window shopping...and my dad came home $867 dollars poorer. I get to write him a big nice check. __________________ For proper support: what are you running? graphics, cpu, m/board, ram, PSU brand wattage PCI-E requires 26 amps at 12 volts. That's a 650W PSU. Power Supply Info and Selection . Info on thermal compounds & application . TEST PSU USING MULTI-METER . Bench Testing Your System