Over Heating Problem

tyrell444 · 10-28-2007, 01:29 AM

Hello everyone,

I am having a overheating problem with my laptop (HP Pavilion zv6000).
The computer is as clean as a whistle iv made sure of that. Here are some things i can tell you that might help you narrow the problem down.

*Brand new processor fan.
*Chill pad seems to make it overheat faster.
*seems to last longer when the laptop is not charging(contrast is a low lower)
*Over heats with in 15 minutes plugged 45 unplugged.

Again what i am asking is if anyone can give me some ideas on what is making it overheat.

Thanks.

~tyrell

**Snoopdogie187** · 10-28-2007, 04:44 AM

I would check that the processor fan is working and that it is flowing the right way.
If it is not, the chill pad may be interffering with the wring flow of the fan and making it worse.
When a laptop is plugged in, the battery will generate its own heat and cause the laptop to be coller.
Have you tried plugged in without the battery?

I am not sure if this is it but it can be a place to start.

tyrell444 · 10-28-2007, 07:07 AM

Let's see here. How could i make sure the fan is running the right way. And i tried that battery thing a while back, did't work. Really good ideas tho. It's a good start. =)

~tyrell

**Snoopdogie187** · 10-29-2007, 12:38 PM

I would justhold a piece of paper up to where the fan should blow out of and see if it really is.

tyrell444 · 11-03-2007, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopdogie187

I would justhold a piece of paper up to where the fan should blow out of and see if it really is.

Are the fans sposto suck in or blow out?

**Snoopdogie187** · 11-03-2007, 11:30 PM

For laptops, i believe that the fan blows air directly in the computer onto the CPU if i am right. Then on he side or the back the air should come out.

tyrell444 · 11-03-2007, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopdogie187

For laptops, i believe that the fan blows air directly in the computer onto the CPU if i am right. Then on he side or the back the air should come out.

oh, right. I have 2 fans on the bottom both suck in air. Then i have the heat sink witch is were the air comes out of on the back side of the computer and the right side.

So to me everything seems to be working fine on the computer but i still can't see how it over heats.

**Snoopdogie187** · 11-04-2007, 12:04 AM

I am not really sure but just to check, right before it overheats are the fans on as fast as they can be? Also can you look at the tempurate at this point not long before it overheats? Mostly trying to see if the computer is doing what it should as it gets hotter or if there is a problem with that.

tyrell444 · 11-06-2007, 11:50 AM

What happens (sometimes) the fan will go as fast as they can then just stop. Then after about 5 seconds they'll start back up again for about 10 seconds then stop.. Some times it will just crash out of no where. If this helps any i kept the case of the laptop off to fell how hot the heatsink gets how fast.

The heatsink got to a point where you could not touch it after about a minute and a half. I don't know if thats normal but thats what happened. Oh one more thing, when i have the computer unplugged (not charging) it will go the hole battery life with out crashing.

But to simply answer your questions yes it does go really fast before it stops.

**carsey** · 11-06-2007, 11:57 AM

First things first... Did you remember to use thermal compound with the new heatsink??

Im pretty sure that laptop fans are meant to blow out from the side. This is because the fan suck cool air through the heatsink and directly out the side instead of through all the internals of the machine.

Download speedfan (http://www.almico.com/speedfan433.exe) and report back to us what temperatures the program is showing you.

tyrell444 · 11-07-2007, 08:47 PM

All right let's take a look here.

HD0: 42C
Temp1: 54C
Core: 82C

Just looking at the core temp, thats like 180F.. Again brand new fan seems that there is some thermal gel on the proccesor. Altho it is a little crustie.. It's blowing out of the side like it's ment. Both fans are sucking in, i really can't see what the problem could be. Onlything i can think of is prossecor is going bad..

Edit:

When i un plug the charger the core temp drops down to 58C.

**1 g0t 0wn3d** · 11-07-2007, 08:52 PM

Try changing the power settings to save energy, it sure does not look like there is thermla compound to be seen

tyrell444 · 11-07-2007, 09:29 PM

Oh one last thing when i play my games (world of warcraft) im running core temp of 90c

**1 g0t 0wn3d** · 11-07-2007, 09:47 PM

DO not play games until this is fixed that may damage your cpu

**mattlock** · 11-07-2007, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyrell444

All right let's take a look here.

HD0: 42C
Temp1: 54C
Core: 82C

Just looking at the core temp, thats like 180F.. Again brand new fan seems that there is some thermal gel on the proccesor. Altho it is a little crustie.. It's blowing out of the side like it's ment. Both fans are sucking in, i really can't see what the problem could be. Only thing i can think of is prossecor is going bad..

Edit:

When i un plug the charger the core temp drops down to 58C.

Any time you remove or disturb the CPU heatsink on any computer you must clean off the old thermal compound and reapply a fresh coat. Arctic Silver 5 is the compound of choice.

Check out the "Thermal Paste Instructions" link in my signature.

tyrell444 · 11-07-2007, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1 g0t 0wn3d

DO not play games until this is fixed that may damage your cpu

Iv been playing with this problem for like half a year.. Im guessing the cpu is just demeged and thats why im crashing.

**Snoopdogie187** · 11-07-2007, 11:39 PM

If you just want to make sure first, Stop playing any games or doing anything CPU intensive, then follow what mattlock said with the thermal compound. Make sure you take your time and get all of the old off. See if that helps. The thermal compund does not cost a lot to go buy a new one, so it is not like your wasteing that much money if it does not work, and if it does work, you saved a lot of money.

tyrell444 · 11-08-2007, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoopdogie187

If you just want to make sure first, Stop playing any games or doing anything CPU intensive, then follow what mattlock said with the thermal compound. Make sure you take your time and get all of the old off. See if that helps. The thermal compund does not cost a lot to go buy a new one, so it is not like your wasteing that much money if it does not work, and if it does work, you saved a lot of money.

Right. Um what kind of stores do you think might have any thermal compound? I'v checked radio shack and they did't have any.

**Snoopdogie187** · 11-08-2007, 12:24 AM

www.newegg.com

mostly a lot of online computer part sites will. Reallly it should be most stores that sell parts like CPUs and related.

**mattlock** · 11-08-2007, 12:26 AM

Compusa, Microcenter, any local PC shop should have it also. Fry's would be another possibilty.

10-28-2007, 01:29 AM	#1 (permalink)
tyrell444 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 12 OS: XP	Over Heating Problem Hello everyone, I am having a overheating problem with my laptop (HP Pavilion zv6000). The computer is as clean as a whistle iv made sure of that. Here are some things i can tell you that might help you narrow the problem down. Brand new processor fan. Chill pad seems to make it overheat faster. seems to last longer when the laptop is not charging(contrast is a low lower) Over heats with in 15 minutes plugged 45 unplugged. Again what i am asking is if anyone can give me some ideas on what is making it overheat. Thanks. ~tyrell Last edited by tyrell444; 10-28-2007 at 01:35 AM.

10-28-2007, 04:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
Snoopdogie187 Oh! What shall I be? Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,540 OS: Vista Home Premium SP1, mom: XP Pro SP2 My System	Re: Over Heating Problem I would check that the processor fan is working and that it is flowing the right way. If it is not, the chill pad may be interffering with the wring flow of the fan and making it worse. When a laptop is plugged in, the battery will generate its own heat and cause the laptop to be coller. Have you tried plugged in without the battery? I am not sure if this is it but it can be a place to start. __________________ Infected computer? click here Has TSF Helped You? Posting System Specifications Please Donate to TSF

10-28-2007, 07:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
tyrell444 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 12 OS: XP	Re: Over Heating Problem Let's see here. How could i make sure the fan is running the right way. And i tried that battery thing a while back, did't work. Really good ideas tho. It's a good start. =) ~tyrell

10-29-2007, 12:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Snoopdogie187 Oh! What shall I be? Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,540 OS: Vista Home Premium SP1, mom: XP Pro SP2 My System	Re: Over Heating Problem I would justhold a piece of paper up to where the fan should blow out of and see if it really is. __________________ Infected computer? click here Has TSF Helped You? Posting System Specifications Please Donate to TSF

11-03-2007, 11:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
Snoopdogie187 Oh! What shall I be? Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,540 OS: Vista Home Premium SP1, mom: XP Pro SP2 My System	Re: Over Heating Problem For laptops, i believe that the fan blows air directly in the computer onto the CPU if i am right. Then on he side or the back the air should come out. __________________ Infected computer? click here Has TSF Helped You? Posting System Specifications Please Donate to TSF

11-04-2007, 12:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
Snoopdogie187 Oh! What shall I be? Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,540 OS: Vista Home Premium SP1, mom: XP Pro SP2 My System	Re: Over Heating Problem I am not really sure but just to check, right before it overheats are the fans on as fast as they can be? Also can you look at the tempurate at this point not long before it overheats? Mostly trying to see if the computer is doing what it should as it gets hotter or if there is a problem with that. __________________ Infected computer? click here Has TSF Helped You? Posting System Specifications Please Donate to TSF

11-06-2007, 11:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
tyrell444 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 12 OS: XP	Re: Over Heating Problem What happens (sometimes) the fan will go as fast as they can then just stop. Then after about 5 seconds they'll start back up again for about 10 seconds then stop.. Some times it will just crash out of no where. If this helps any i kept the case of the laptop off to fell how hot the heatsink gets how fast. The heatsink got to a point where you could not touch it after about a minute and a half. I don't know if thats normal but thats what happened. Oh one more thing, when i have the computer unplugged (not charging) it will go the hole battery life with out crashing. But to simply answer your questions yes it does go really fast before it stops.

11-06-2007, 11:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
carsey Moderator, TSF Articles Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Hunwick, Co. Durham England Posts: 10,691 OS: XP Pro SP3 My System	Re: Over Heating Problem First things first... Did you remember to use thermal compound with the new heatsink?? Im pretty sure that laptop fans are meant to blow out from the side. This is because the fan suck cool air through the heatsink and directly out the side instead of through all the internals of the machine. Download speedfan (http://www.almico.com/speedfan433.exe) and report back to us what temperatures the program is showing you. __________________ Submit New Articles Here

11-07-2007, 08:47 PM	#11 (permalink)
tyrell444 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 12 OS: XP	Re: Over Heating Problem All right let's take a look here. HD0: 42C Temp1: 54C Core: 82C Just looking at the core temp, thats like 180F.. Again brand new fan seems that there is some thermal gel on the proccesor. Altho it is a little crustie.. It's blowing out of the side like it's ment. Both fans are sucking in, i really can't see what the problem could be. Onlything i can think of is prossecor is going bad.. Edit: When i un plug the charger the core temp drops down to 58C. Last edited by tyrell444; 11-07-2007 at 08:49 PM.

11-07-2007, 08:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,528 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: Over Heating Problem Try changing the power settings to save energy, it sure does not look like there is thermla compound to be seen __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

11-07-2007, 09:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
tyrell444 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 12 OS: XP	Re: Over Heating Problem Oh one last thing when i play my games (world of warcraft) im running core temp of 90c

11-07-2007, 09:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
1 g0t 0wn3d TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sedona, az Posts: 6,528 OS: Vista basic 32bit My System	Re: Over Heating Problem DO not play games until this is fixed that may damage your cpu __________________ Bench Test \| PC Wizard \| System specs \| PSU info \| PSU calculator \| Memtest86+ \| Speedfan

11-07-2007, 11:39 PM	#17 (permalink)
Snoopdogie187 Oh! What shall I be? Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,540 OS: Vista Home Premium SP1, mom: XP Pro SP2 My System	Re: Over Heating Problem If you just want to make sure first, Stop playing any games or doing anything CPU intensive, then follow what mattlock said with the thermal compound. Make sure you take your time and get all of the old off. See if that helps. The thermal compund does not cost a lot to go buy a new one, so it is not like your wasteing that much money if it does not work, and if it does work, you saved a lot of money. __________________ Infected computer? click here Has TSF Helped You? Posting System Specifications Please Donate to TSF

11-08-2007, 12:24 AM	#19 (permalink)
Snoopdogie187 Oh! What shall I be? Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,540 OS: Vista Home Premium SP1, mom: XP Pro SP2 My System	Re: Over Heating Problem www.newegg.com mostly a lot of online computer part sites will. Reallly it should be most stores that sell parts like CPUs and related. __________________ Infected computer? click here Has TSF Helped You? Posting System Specifications Please Donate to TSF

11-08-2007, 12:26 AM	#20 (permalink)
mattlock Mentor Hardware Team Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 4,183 OS: XP SP2, Win 7 Beta, Win 7 RC My System	Re: Over Heating Problem Compusa, Microcenter, any local PC shop should have it also. Fry's would be another possibilty. __________________ Matt Everest-Thermal Paste Instruction-Power Supply Info-Sensorview PSU Calculator-Speedfan-Bench Test Help TSF Fight Disease. It's Free! Last edited by mattlock; 11-08-2007 at 12:27 AM.