Possible Hard Drive Issue...

Cruise · 10-10-2006, 11:48 PM

I'm not completely sure if it belongs in the hard drive part of this forum or not...BUT...if it doesn't I'm just a n00b. Anyways to the problem. For quite some time now I have been trying to install Intervideo's InstantON(which for some reason is not even listed on their site...no support or anything) and I never was able to get it to work. Recently though, I had the crazy notion to reformat my computer, so I decided to give it another go. I formatted my computer and re-installed windows, leaving the 200mb partition that the instructions said that it wanted me too...and I figured I would just follow the "after installation of windows" part. This is where it gets wierd...Every source I've come up on says that the cd that was provided to me is a bootable disc blah blah blah. But I pop it in my drive...and it won't boot up to it...There is clearly no web support through their website(not that i've seen at least) and I was wondering if anyone could help me out before I have to go through another company's tech support..ugh.

And a little more hard drive related...I have a "100" gigabyte harddrive that says it is only 92.9 gigs...just wondering if thats normal..

I am a n00b please help =(

**Fr4665** · 10-11-2006, 04:00 AM

make sure the cd drive your trying to boot from is set as the first bootable device in the bios.

the 100 gigs being 92.9 is usually ok due to the masterboot record and stuff taking up some space i would just ignore that IMO

Cruise · 10-11-2006, 07:15 AM

Ok, I'll try that when I get back home from school. Thanks a lot =)

Cruise · 10-11-2006, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruise

Ok, I'll try that when I get back home from school. Thanks a lot =)

Sadly, it didn't work...any other suggestions?

**Fr4665** · 10-12-2006, 07:22 AM

is the harddrive and the cd drive on a seperate cable ?

make sure that the jumpers on the back of the drives are set accordingly:

harddrive -master
cddrive -slave

Is the bios detecting the cd drive ? are you 100% sure the cd is bootable ? are you trying to install windows with the bootable disc ? is it an original or a copy?

Cruise · 10-12-2006, 04:34 PM

Ok...so its on my laptop...so i'm not too sure about the internal cables. The bios detects the cd drive as a place to be able to boot something from. I previously formatted the drive and left the amount of space it is supposed to need...I then installed windows from the original windows boot disk....and the disk i am trying to boot from now is an original as well..it came with the laptop. The only thing I am now unsure of is if its a bootable disc or not..The disc came alone..and the only thing i had to work with was the .pdf file that is also on the cd....and that didn't tell me much at all...I researched it a bit and the company that developed it doesnt give any support for it(none that I see) and everything else I find is just a variation of the same thing I have or is about instantly turning the computer on and off...which this program doesn't do..this one runs the linux partition so you can save a bit of battery life when watching or listening to media being played in the disk drive...so I am at a loss. If there is a way that I can make the disk bootable..if it isnt...that would be possible to do as well.

**hwm54112** · 10-12-2006, 10:06 PM

Forget about the cables, the master/slave scenario. it doesn't apply to a laptop.

The program sounds like a really neat idea but I'm not entirely sure the disk is bootable. The idea of the program is to use a computer as a media player without having to boot windows, ergo Linux platform. It's possible you may have to install linux on the drive first. it makes no sense that the program would run from a bootable cd. it's obviously meant to be installed on a hard drive, the press releases alluded to a windows version being worked on. Everything seems to point to installing linux, then running the program's setup in linux. I could be wrong

Bill

Cruise · 10-12-2006, 10:09 PM

hmm...maybe thats what it is...i'll look into it. Thanks

**laboye** · 10-13-2006, 06:41 PM

Well, you guys would be surprised! The MBR and other boot information is in the very beginning of the drive and usually takes the first 512k sector. Partitioning information for NTFS takes 8MB of the beginning of the drive. Here's why everyone's drive capacity is different than promised:

There are two methods of calculating space. By 1024 and 1000. For you techies, you should have figured it out right there...

Hard drive manufacturers measure their capacity using 1000. 1000 bytes is a kibibyte. 1000 kibibytes is a mebibyte and 1000 mebibytes is a gibibyte.

In "normal" terms, 1024 bytes make a kilobyte, 1024 kilobytes make a megabyte and 1024 megabytes make a gigabyte. Everything today, aside from the manufacturers, uses the 1024 method. When a manufacturer says you have 100GB capacity, they mean it has 100 gibibytes (Gb, not GB). It has a 100,000,000,000 bytes of space. When dividing this back up with the 1024 method, you have about 93.132 Gigabytes of storage. Tell your friends! It's something no one would have guessed...

The bit of extra space you're missing compared to that calculation is due to the formatting method.

Also, here's InstantON's page on InterVideo:
http://www.intervideo.com/jsp/Techno...mode=instanton

Cruise · 10-13-2006, 09:47 PM

Thanks for explaining that...=) but sadly, that website only tells me about the program that I already have and offers no support, but thanks anyways!

10-10-2006, 11:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cruise Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, Ca. Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP SP2 and Windows Vista Ultimate	Possible Hard Drive Issue... I'm not completely sure if it belongs in the hard drive part of this forum or not...BUT...if it doesn't I'm just a n00b. Anyways to the problem. For quite some time now I have been trying to install Intervideo's InstantON(which for some reason is not even listed on their site...no support or anything) and I never was able to get it to work. Recently though, I had the crazy notion to reformat my computer, so I decided to give it another go. I formatted my computer and re-installed windows, leaving the 200mb partition that the instructions said that it wanted me too...and I figured I would just follow the "after installation of windows" part. This is where it gets wierd...Every source I've come up on says that the cd that was provided to me is a bootable disc blah blah blah. But I pop it in my drive...and it won't boot up to it...There is clearly no web support through their website(not that i've seen at least) and I was wondering if anyone could help me out before I have to go through another company's tech support..ugh. And a little more hard drive related...I have a "100" gigabyte harddrive that says it is only 92.9 gigs...just wondering if thats normal.. I am a n00b please help =(

10-11-2006, 04:00 AM	#2 (permalink)
Fr4665 aka mr.fraggs Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA or Germany Posts: 2,965 OS: Win XP,Vista,Android My System	make sure the cd drive your trying to boot from is set as the first bootable device in the bios. the 100 gigs being 92.9 is usually ok due to the masterboot record and stuff taking up some space i would just ignore that IMO __________________ I don't subscribe to threads please PM me if i miss a reply. ------- Everest SensorView Pro DriverCleaner how to fix your game

10-12-2006, 07:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
Fr4665 aka mr.fraggs Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA or Germany Posts: 2,965 OS: Win XP,Vista,Android My System	is the harddrive and the cd drive on a seperate cable ? make sure that the jumpers on the back of the drives are set accordingly: harddrive -master cddrive -slave Is the bios detecting the cd drive ? are you 100% sure the cd is bootable ? are you trying to install windows with the bootable disc ? is it an original or a copy? __________________ I don't subscribe to threads please PM me if i miss a reply. ------- Everest SensorView Pro DriverCleaner how to fix your game

10-12-2006, 10:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
hwm54112 TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 2,233 OS: WINXP	Forget about the cables, the master/slave scenario. it doesn't apply to a laptop. The program sounds like a really neat idea but I'm not entirely sure the disk is bootable. The idea of the program is to use a computer as a media player without having to boot windows, ergo Linux platform. It's possible you may have to install linux on the drive first. it makes no sense that the program would run from a bootable cd. it's obviously meant to be installed on a hard drive, the press releases alluded to a windows version being worked on. Everything seems to point to installing linux, then running the program's setup in linux. I could be wrong Bill Last edited by hwm54112; 10-12-2006 at 10:09 PM.

10-13-2006, 06:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
laboye TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hollywood, FL Posts: 1,246 OS: Windows xp Pro/Vista Beta 2/Ubuntu 6.06 LTS My System	Well, you guys would be surprised! The MBR and other boot information is in the very beginning of the drive and usually takes the first 512k sector. Partitioning information for NTFS takes 8MB of the beginning of the drive. Here's why everyone's drive capacity is different than promised: There are two methods of calculating space. By 1024 and 1000. For you techies, you should have figured it out right there... Hard drive manufacturers measure their capacity using 1000. 1000 bytes is a kibibyte. 1000 kibibytes is a mebibyte and 1000 mebibytes is a gibibyte. In "normal" terms, 1024 bytes make a kilobyte, 1024 kilobytes make a megabyte and 1024 megabytes make a gigabyte. Everything today, aside from the manufacturers, uses the 1024 method. When a manufacturer says you have 100GB capacity, they mean it has 100 gibibytes (Gb, not GB). It has a 100,000,000,000 bytes of space. When dividing this back up with the 1024 method, you have about 93.132 Gigabytes of storage. Tell your friends! It's something no one would have guessed... The bit of extra space you're missing compared to that calculation is due to the formatting method. Also, here's InstantON's page on InterVideo: http://www.intervideo.com/jsp/Techno...mode=instanton __________________ Repair Windows XP Guide --- Resolutions Crazy Computer that I'm saving up for::Antec P180 Case;PC Pwr&Cooling 1kW Quad SLI PSU;Asus P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe;Intel Core2 XE X6800;Corsair TWIN2XP2048 2GB PC2-6400 DDR2 RAM;2xAsus GeForce 7950 GX2;BFG PhysX Accel.;IBM DVD-RAM/Plextor DVD±RW;Seagate 750GB HD 7200RPM;WDX 150GB 10000RPM;Vigor Monsoon TEC Cooler

10-11-2006, 07:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cruise Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, Ca. Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP SP2 and Windows Vista Ultimate	Ok, I'll try that when I get back home from school. Thanks a lot =)

10-12-2006, 04:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
Cruise Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, Ca. Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP SP2 and Windows Vista Ultimate	Ok...so its on my laptop...so i'm not too sure about the internal cables. The bios detects the cd drive as a place to be able to boot something from. I previously formatted the drive and left the amount of space it is supposed to need...I then installed windows from the original windows boot disk....and the disk i am trying to boot from now is an original as well..it came with the laptop. The only thing I am now unsure of is if its a bootable disc or not..The disc came alone..and the only thing i had to work with was the .pdf file that is also on the cd....and that didn't tell me much at all...I researched it a bit and the company that developed it doesnt give any support for it(none that I see) and everything else I find is just a variation of the same thing I have or is about instantly turning the computer on and off...which this program doesn't do..this one runs the linux partition so you can save a bit of battery life when watching or listening to media being played in the disk drive...so I am at a loss. If there is a way that I can make the disk bootable..if it isnt...that would be possible to do as well.

10-12-2006, 10:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cruise Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, Ca. Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP SP2 and Windows Vista Ultimate	hmm...maybe thats what it is...i'll look into it. Thanks

10-13-2006, 09:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cruise Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, Ca. Posts: 8 OS: Windows XP SP2 and Windows Vista Ultimate	Thanks for explaining that...=) but sadly, that website only tells me about the program that I already have and offers no support, but thanks anyways!