Hard drive 300gb Support Help!

bradleyp · 12-11-2005, 12:38 PM

Hi guys Please help me somebody,
I have a Pentium 4 Machine running Windows Xp,
And i need to upgrade my hard drive and i will remove my 20gb Hard drive which is installed on SLAVE cause i dont nned it anymore and want to purchase a new Hard drive Maxtor 300gb 16mb cache and replace it there but the problem i having is i am not sure it will support or even work on my computer .

So please could someone help me out. Cause i heed help!

My System Specs are:-
Pentium 4 Processor 2.4ghz
Original Pentium 4 motherboard : Model no D845WN
RAM: 1 GB 133ghz SD RAM
Current Hard drives: Master : 80gb Maxtor
Slave: 20gb Quantium Fireball(will be removed if 300gb is fixed)

I asked the shop and they said they are not sure cause this 300gb hard drive is newly introduce din the market in 2005
and i purchase my PC in 2002 so they are not sure if it will support my motherboard casue its 3yrs now.
But some guys say it will support some are not sure. So i dont know and need help. Please help me and advice me on it and tell me if it supports my PC or not and if ur sure mention 100/: cause if i buy it and it wont support theshop wont replace it.
Another problem is only one shop in the whole country has it so thats another problem
Please reply with ur answer and suggestions
Thanks

**johnwill** · 12-11-2005, 05:10 PM

I'd go to the Intel D845WN Download Page and upgrade the BIOS, since I suspect the one you have probably doesn't support LBA48, that happened late in 2002. If you read the Release Notes for their latest BIOS, you'll notice that it adds LBA48 support. You'll need this for disks larger than 127gigs. Other than the BIOS, I don't see any reason you can't use that disk.

**linderman** · 12-11-2005, 05:10 PM

I be willing to bet your system will support a 300 gig drive. There are a couple of things I would do to make sure it does.

#1 >>>> go to your motherboard makers website and download the newest available bios for your mother board and update your bios

#2: download win XP service pack 2 >>> available at windows update site

#3 >>>>> absolute worse case senario >>> install a PCI card IDE controller card ($35.00) then I will guarantee your a computer from 1999 will run that drive !! >>>>> but that wont be necessary !!??

enjoy

joe

bradleyp · 12-12-2005, 03:53 AM

I already have Windoes Xp Service pack 2 installed but how do i upgrade my Motherboard Bios , do i just Run the particular .exe file and install it .
Another problem is that im not sure HV845HV. Do i open the pc case and check the model number written there or do i check using the system inforamtion because on my motherboard the model number is Pentium 4
D845WN but when i check using my OS ,and then go to System inforamtion it is mentioned HV845HV model.So im not sure.
Anyway once i make sure tell me the right procedure and steps inorder to successfully upgrade my Bios cause if ido a mistake my full computer can break down.
So pls help !
Thanks

**linderman** · 12-12-2005, 05:16 AM

John Will supplied a link above to your intel bios site / click on that link then click the bios EXPRESS install / the rest is sit back and enjoy the movie

regards

joe

bradleyp · 12-12-2005, 08:59 AM

I successfully fixed my hard drive, but had a problem cause my computer was not booting after i fixed the 300gb Hard drive, and i came to know the problem was that my IDE cable had to be replaced with a new one cause it could not load the 300gb hD. I dont know why? Are there many types of IDE cables available in the market and do they make a difference and are cd ROM IDE cables different from Hard drives?
Also now i need to ask Is it still require to update my Bios cause my PC is now working perfectly fine.
And what size of partition would be appropriate to perform.
4 partitions or 3 ?
I am not sure.
Will it also make a difference in the PC speed cause right now i have 2 partions both of 40gb each on my computer from my 80gb Hard drive.
And Windows is installed on 1 of the 40gb partitions.
So I am actually planning to make 3 partions 90 each would it make my PC slow and is advisable to make 3 partions cause my Windows is only installed on 40gb small sixe. and now i will make 90 gb partions.
Will that make any problemPLS REPLY
THANKS

**linderman** · 12-12-2005, 11:55 AM

Brad:

Yes IDE cables can be different for optical drives (cd-rom & dvd) than the hard drive cables. The faster better performing ATA 66 (your new drive should be at least an ATA 100 ) and above drives require an 80 wire cable to work at their peak performance; however the big drive should work with the old 40 wire cable but the drive will be reduced in speed down to ATA-33 = performance level = = = = -> sloooooow

as far as partitions go / more partitions has no effect on the speed of the system >>> you can have up to four partitions per HARD DRIVE and have several hard drives as you are aware. You can partition the drive any way you desire. 90 gig partitions sounds reasonable to me ????

I would strongly suggest updating your bios though / John Will (tech above posted) stated your current bios version does not support LBA 48 which is critical to enabling a large drive ??????

you should be able to get an 80 wire ide hard drive cable at most any computer store and reather cheap at that.

if you have any other questions fire away ???

joe

12-11-2005, 12:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
bradleyp Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 72 OS: Windows XP	Hard drive 300gb Support Help! Hi guys Please help me somebody, I have a Pentium 4 Machine running Windows Xp, And i need to upgrade my hard drive and i will remove my 20gb Hard drive which is installed on SLAVE cause i dont nned it anymore and want to purchase a new Hard drive Maxtor 300gb 16mb cache and replace it there but the problem i having is i am not sure it will support or even work on my computer . So please could someone help me out. Cause i heed help! My System Specs are:- Pentium 4 Processor 2.4ghz Original Pentium 4 motherboard : Model no D845WN RAM: 1 GB 133ghz SD RAM Current Hard drives: Master : 80gb Maxtor Slave: 20gb Quantium Fireball(will be removed if 300gb is fixed) I asked the shop and they said they are not sure cause this 300gb hard drive is newly introduce din the market in 2005 and i purchase my PC in 2002 so they are not sure if it will support my motherboard casue its 3yrs now. But some guys say it will support some are not sure. So i dont know and need help. Please help me and advice me on it and tell me if it supports my PC or not and if ur sure mention 100/: cause if i buy it and it wont support theshop wont replace it. Another problem is only one shop in the whole country has it so thats another problem Please reply with ur answer and suggestions Thanks

12-11-2005, 05:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,748 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	I'd go to the Intel D845WN Download Page and upgrade the BIOS, since I suspect the one you have probably doesn't support LBA48, that happened late in 2002. If you read the Release Notes for their latest BIOS, you'll notice that it adds LBA48 support. You'll need this for disks larger than 127gigs. Other than the BIOS, I don't see any reason you can't use that disk. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

12-11-2005, 05:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	I be willing to bet your system will support a 300 gig drive. There are a couple of things I would do to make sure it does. #1 >>>> go to your motherboard makers website and download the newest available bios for your mother board and update your bios #2: download win XP service pack 2 >>> available at windows update site #3 >>>>> absolute worse case senario >>> install a PCI card IDE controller card ($35.00) then I will guarantee your a computer from 1999 will run that drive !! >>>>> but that wont be necessary !!?? enjoy joe __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

12-12-2005, 05:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	John Will supplied a link above to your intel bios site / click on that link then click the bios EXPRESS install / the rest is sit back and enjoy the movie regards joe __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

12-12-2005, 08:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
bradleyp Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 72 OS: Windows XP	Help with Hard drive I successfully fixed my hard drive, but had a problem cause my computer was not booting after i fixed the 300gb Hard drive, and i came to know the problem was that my IDE cable had to be replaced with a new one cause it could not load the 300gb hD. I dont know why? Are there many types of IDE cables available in the market and do they make a difference and are cd ROM IDE cables different from Hard drives? Also now i need to ask Is it still require to update my Bios cause my PC is now working perfectly fine. And what size of partition would be appropriate to perform. 4 partitions or 3 ? I am not sure. Will it also make a difference in the PC speed cause right now i have 2 partions both of 40gb each on my computer from my 80gb Hard drive. And Windows is installed on 1 of the 40gb partitions. So I am actually planning to make 3 partions 90 each would it make my PC slow and is advisable to make 3 partions cause my Windows is only installed on 40gb small sixe. and now i will make 90 gb partions. Will that make any problemPLS REPLY THANKS

12-12-2005, 03:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
bradleyp Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 72 OS: Windows XP	I already have Windoes Xp Service pack 2 installed but how do i upgrade my Motherboard Bios , do i just Run the particular .exe file and install it . Another problem is that im not sure HV845HV. Do i open the pc case and check the model number written there or do i check using the system inforamtion because on my motherboard the model number is Pentium 4 D845WN but when i check using my OS ,and then go to System inforamtion it is mentioned HV845HV model.So im not sure. Anyway once i make sure tell me the right procedure and steps inorder to successfully upgrade my Bios cause if ido a mistake my full computer can break down. So pls help ! Thanks

12-12-2005, 11:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Brad: Yes IDE cables can be different for optical drives (cd-rom & dvd) than the hard drive cables. The faster better performing ATA 66 (your new drive should be at least an ATA 100 ) and above drives require an 80 wire cable to work at their peak performance; however the big drive should work with the old 40 wire cable but the drive will be reduced in speed down to ATA-33 = performance level = = = = -> sloooooow as far as partitions go / more partitions has no effect on the speed of the system >>> you can have up to four partitions per HARD DRIVE and have several hard drives as you are aware. You can partition the drive any way you desire. 90 gig partitions sounds reasonable to me ???? I would strongly suggest updating your bios though / John Will (tech above posted) stated your current bios version does not support LBA 48 which is critical to enabling a large drive ?????? you should be able to get an 80 wire ide hard drive cable at most any computer store and reather cheap at that. if you have any other questions fire away ??? joe __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial Last edited by linderman; 12-12-2005 at 11:58 AM.