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Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1
OS: Win XP Pro
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How to best use ATA-100 drives in RAID ...
CompUSA has had a couple of sales now on 160GB ATA-100 hard drives with 8MB caches. Twice in the past they have had the Western Digital drives on sale for $39.99 after rebates and now they have Seagate drives (which I believe have a better warranty) on sale for $39.99 after rebates.
My understanding is that the physical devices that store/read/write is the same in all hard drives whether ATA-100, ATA-133, SATA, SATA-150, SATAII, etc. My understanding is also that using RAID 0 (striping) effectively allows 2 or more drives to operate in parallel which (in theory) should allow them to operate more quickly than a single drive of the same total size. I have been looking at RAID controllers but I am having a hard time figuring out what to purchase. My current PC is an "old" Dell Dimension XPX B__r with a P3 733MHz processor and 512MB RAM. I know that Windows XP supports RAID ... but from what I have read it relies on the CPU and ... well ... we are taking about a P3 @ 733MHz here so I have ruled that option out. When this is replaced it is my intention to build a PC myself from components. Many new motherboards appear to support 4-8 SATA hard drives and some include RAID chipsets. It also seems like there are very few ATA-100 RAID controllers out there. There are some ATA-133 RAID controllers which should be backwards compatible with ATA-100. It almost seems like some of the SATA RAID controllers are cheaper than the ATA-133 RAID controllers. I am wondering if it would make sense to buy SATA-to-IDE/ATA-133/100 adapters for each of the drives and then buy a SATA RAID controller rather that an ATA-133 RAID controller? This would make it easier to re-use the drive in the next PC which will certainly support at least 4 SATA drives and probably include a RAID chipset on the motherboard. It would also make the cabling much easier. The one factor that I am having the most difficulty with is understanding the impact of the bus. Some RAID controllers support PCI 32 bit / 33 MHz; others support PCI 64 bit / 66MHz; some appear to support both. I know that my current machine only supports PCI 32 bit / 33 MHz. I think I have painted a picture of what am trying to do. Any suggestions and specific hardware recommendations would be appreciated. Also ... how does one typically back up a RAID system? Is there a way to copy all the drives to another set of drives (like a set of external USB drives) in their entirety? Here is a really dumb question: could you set up RAID 0 using only external USB drives under Windows XP Pro? I am assuming that the answer is no and that in any case this would not make sense as the USB interface would slow things down too much? One other thing ... I know that my current machine only has a 200W power supply so I will likely need to add some kind of supplimental power supply. Worst case: I will buy enclosure + USB 2.0 adapter kits for the drives (for less than $40) and then give them away as Christmas presents or something. |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Omaha, The Center of the Universe
Posts: 7,632
OS: WinXP, Win2K3
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The first this is you must realize the performance of the PCI bus. This is your biggest bottleneck. Theoretical max bandwidth of the 32 bit PCI bus is 133MB/sec. Now the RAID array will saturate that. You must also take into consideration the other items that run off the PCI bus such as LAN, audio, etc.
IDE is a dying breed. Much like ISA slots on older motherboards. Even optical drive are starting to use SATA. You will not see performance form a USB slot. USB speeds are only 480Mb/sec (thats bits, not bytes) 40 bones is a good price for 160GB drives. But my advice, save your pennies for newer technology. If you doo decide on more drives in your system, get a bigger PSU. Do not buy cheap. Get a name brand like Enermax or Antec. |
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