Computer Running really slow due to hardrives, please help! =).

Virus-UK- · 08-08-2005, 11:45 AM

hi there, i recently put in a slave IDE hardrive and after some trial and error of getting the system to recognizing it and changing jumper settings, i finally got it to recongize both, and it works. but since then my pc has run like half as fast as it normally does, for example, when im playing music it will have fluctuations of the music slowing down and the whole pc freezes for a bit, until it sorts itself out.

is there anything im unaware of that could be causing this?, anything i may have knocked?, loose cable somewhere?....anything??, suggestions and solutions will be HIGHLY appreciated

Thankyou very much in advance,

Darren

dai · 08-08-2005, 12:13 PM

check dma is enabled

Virus-UK- · 08-08-2005, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dai

check dma is enabled

Pardon my ignorance, but what's that?, and how do i do it, in BIOS?

**koala** · 08-08-2005, 01:23 PM

Control Panel > System > Device Manager. Click the + next to disk drives and right-click/properties on both hard drives. Under the Settings tab you can enable DMA. Reboot and see if it's still enabled (some drives don't support it)

Virus-UK- · 08-08-2005, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koala

Control Panel > System > Device Manager. Click the + next to disk drives and right-click/properties on both hard drives. Under the Settings tab you can enable DMA. Reboot and see if it's still enabled (some drives don't support it)

ive just follow those instructions and under the propeties in the device manager (right clicking on either IDE), it has no settings tab, just " General, Policies, Volumes, Drivers and Details", and none of the following tabs contains a "DMA ENABLING" options. just stuff bout allowing the disk to cache i think. which is selected, so am i doing something wrong?

dai · 08-08-2005, 02:46 PM

double click on the primary eide and choose advanced and you will see the settings

Virus-UK- · 08-08-2005, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dai

double click on the primary eide and choose advanced and you will see the settings

nope, i get exactly the same options as above ^, ive attached some images to show you that im not stupid lol

dai · 08-09-2005, 01:30 AM

when you click on the ide + then double left click on the primary eide listing,not right click
then advanced tab

Virus-UK- · 08-09-2005, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dai

when you click on the ide + then double left click on the primary eide listing,not right click
then advanced tab

i get those boxes appear even if i double click on the ide listed.

to make sure.

i go to the device manager, i click on the + next to hard drives

then i double click on the primary one

thats exactly what i do, and i get those boxes shown in my previous post, and if i right click then go to properties i get the same

dai · 08-09-2005, 10:35 AM

when you left click the boxes will be the same but you should see the extra advanced tab

Virus-UK- · 08-09-2005, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virus-UK-

i get those boxes appear even if i double click on the ide listed.

to make sure.

i go to the device manager, i click on the + next to hard drives

then i double click on the primary one

thats exactly what i do, and i get those boxes shown in my previous post, and if i right click then go to properties i get the same

nope, nothing...still no advance tab

lol, maybe my IDE doesnt support DMA?

dai · 08-09-2005, 01:44 PM

check it is enabled in the bios

Virus-UK- · 08-09-2005, 04:24 PM

just rebooted the pc to check BIOS, i think.., cant see anything to do with DMA anywhere, i checked both CMOS setups, power management, all stuff like that, unless that isn't BIOS??..but i think it is lol

dai · 08-09-2005, 07:01 PM

look through your manual

Virus-UK- · 08-09-2005, 11:37 PM

this pc was made from scratch, custom built a few years now, it doesn't have one. but im gonna be re-making one come the end of the summer, but im ost probably going to use these 2 hardrives again. so i need to sort the problem, ill keep looking though

dai · 08-10-2005, 10:54 AM

you can d/l the manual from your m/b makers web site,d/l everest and see what you have and what the computer settings are
http://www.lavalys.com/

Virus-UK- · 08-14-2005, 09:40 AM

ok thanks alot :)

**Barry_R** · 08-15-2005, 12:39 AM

I cannot find any DMA settings under the Hard Drive properties either. But I do see them in the Primary and Secondary IDE Controllers properties under the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers section.

Some things to try:

Shut down the PC and unplugging the ribbon cable from the drive you installed and see if the system returns to normal.

If you have 2 IDE channels you could try the new drive as a master on the second channel. If you have a CD ROM on the second channel remove it temporarily.

It could be that this new drive is faulty or your system does not like the combination of those 2 drives on the same channel which brings me to another thought.

Is this drive you installed a new drive or is it an older slower drive? If your system does not support independent device timing the slower drive could hamper performance of the faster drive if it is on the same IDE channel. This is probably not your problem since most modern systems support independent device timing for this very reason, but I thought it worth mentioning.

**linderman** · 08-15-2005, 05:10 AM

Also pick yurself up some new 80 pin IDE drive cables / good quality ones are cheap ~~ may have a poo poo cable

then run the manufacturers hard drive diagnostic program from their website on each drive to be sure one doesnt have the flu

Barry has a good suggestion ~ try the slave on the secondary ide connector as the secondary Master ???? then check speeds

regards

joe

08-08-2005, 11:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
Virus-UK- Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 14 OS: XP	Computer Running really slow due to hardrives, please help! =). hi there, i recently put in a slave IDE hardrive and after some trial and error of getting the system to recognizing it and changing jumper settings, i finally got it to recongize both, and it works. but since then my pc has run like half as fast as it normally does, for example, when im playing music it will have fluctuations of the music slowing down and the whole pc freezes for a bit, until it sorts itself out. is there anything im unaware of that could be causing this?, anything i may have knocked?, loose cable somewhere?....anything??, suggestions and solutions will be HIGHLY appreciated Thankyou very much in advance, Darren

08-08-2005, 12:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,702 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	check dma is enabled __________________

08-08-2005, 01:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
koala Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Posts: 12,393 OS: XP/7/Ubuntu My System	Control Panel > System > Device Manager. Click the + next to disk drives and right-click/properties on both hard drives. Under the Settings tab you can enable DMA. Reboot and see if it's still enabled (some drives don't support it) __________________ New members: Subscribe to your thread (Thread Tools) to receive an instant email notification when you get a reply. TSF Folding@Home Team 85015 - details here

08-08-2005, 02:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,702 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	double click on the primary eide and choose advanced and you will see the settings __________________

08-09-2005, 01:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,702 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	when you click on the ide + then double left click on the primary eide listing,not right click then advanced tab __________________

08-09-2005, 10:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,702 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	when you left click the boxes will be the same but you should see the extra advanced tab __________________

08-09-2005, 01:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,702 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	check it is enabled in the bios __________________

08-09-2005, 04:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
Virus-UK- Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 14 OS: XP	just rebooted the pc to check BIOS, i think.., cant see anything to do with DMA anywhere, i checked both CMOS setups, power management, all stuff like that, unless that isn't BIOS??..but i think it is lol

08-09-2005, 07:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,702 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	look through your manual __________________

08-09-2005, 11:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
Virus-UK- Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 14 OS: XP	this pc was made from scratch, custom built a few years now, it doesn't have one. but im gonna be re-making one come the end of the summer, but im ost probably going to use these 2 hardrives again. so i need to sort the problem, ill keep looking though

08-10-2005, 10:54 AM	#16 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 56,702 OS: win 7 32x 64x rtm	you can d/l the manual from your m/b makers web site,d/l everest and see what you have and what the computer settings are http://www.lavalys.com/ __________________

08-14-2005, 09:40 AM	#17 (permalink)
Virus-UK- Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 14 OS: XP	ok thanks alot :)

08-15-2005, 12:39 AM	#18 (permalink)
Barry_R TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: California Posts: 700 OS: Win XP Home, Linux Mint My System	I cannot find any DMA settings under the Hard Drive properties either. But I do see them in the Primary and Secondary IDE Controllers properties under the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers section. Some things to try: Shut down the PC and unplugging the ribbon cable from the drive you installed and see if the system returns to normal. If you have 2 IDE channels you could try the new drive as a master on the second channel. If you have a CD ROM on the second channel remove it temporarily. It could be that this new drive is faulty or your system does not like the combination of those 2 drives on the same channel which brings me to another thought. Is this drive you installed a new drive or is it an older slower drive? If your system does not support independent device timing the slower drive could hamper performance of the faster drive if it is on the same IDE channel. This is probably not your problem since most modern systems support independent device timing for this very reason, but I thought it worth mentioning. Last edited by Barry_R; 08-15-2005 at 12:43 AM.

08-15-2005, 05:10 AM	#19 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,441 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Also pick yurself up some new 80 pin IDE drive cables / good quality ones are cheap ~~ may have a poo poo cable then run the manufacturers hard drive diagnostic program from their website on each drive to be sure one doesnt have the flu Barry has a good suggestion ~ try the slave on the secondary ide connector as the secondary Master ???? then check speeds regards joe __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial