Scsi Hard Drive Problems...

cougar97536 · 08-06-2005, 04:35 AM

Hi i have an old HP net server here... and i finally got everything else sorted out... but im left with this problem:
when the system boots... you get an option to enter the scsi settings right? well when you enter this... and try to acces any hard drive... be it to run a diagnostic or try and format it... it says "Host adapter Status: 00h- no host adapter error" i have tried three drives... and while the utility sees em it can't do anything with em... and trying to boot does nothing... dos, win 98, and win200 all say that i have no fixed disk... any ideas on how to fix this?
thanks in advance...
Christopher

**linderman** · 08-06-2005, 05:15 AM

Welcome to the forum:

What make & model scsi controller do you have ????

my first choice of diangostics would be try another cable / does you scsi cable have a terminator on it ????? generally speaking scsi controllers need a cable terminator at the end of the cable not occupied by the controller / in other words the controlller card will be connected to one end of the cable and at the opposite end you will need scsi termination and drives dont furnish termination.

regards

joe

cougar97536 · 08-06-2005, 05:26 AM

lol the cabling in this thing is really wild (two contollers, hot swap cadges, etc...) but yeah there is a terminator at the end of the long rainbow... and the adapter even sees the drives... just can't do anything with em... the model of the adapters (both on boards from HP) are Adaptec AIC-7870s Bios Rev. 1.2s6
and HP tech support is no help... they have no resorces for anything this old... the full model of this thing is a HP Net Server LS2 btw...

cougar97536 · 08-06-2005, 05:34 AM

id like to think that i have a good mind for problem solving... but this one is messing with me... you know... like moby dick and Cap. Ahab... lmao its late here and you can tell can't you...?
thanks again

**linderman** · 08-06-2005, 05:38 AM

Ok then the system was primarily set-up by HP / so the termination and such must be fairly correct / how about the drives ????? are they original or did you put them in the machine / two problems in that department

scsi id's / all drives are factory set to ID=0 / this is done by setting NO jumper pins on the drive

you will need to assign jumper settings to the three drives / only one drive can be ID=0 the others you will need to make 2 & 3 dont use ID=7 / controllers reserve that ID for themselves

the other problem if the above doesnt work is HP uses proprietary hardware / meaning you cant just throw in anybody's hard drive / their bios is looking for an HP code from the drives when it cant find that code it starts drooling !!

You have two choices there / buy used HP scsi drives off ebay ~~ they are reasonable or move the contoller cards and drives to a different machine (cables are conencted to the controller cards) and abandon the bulk of the HP server

regards

joe

cougar97536 · 08-06-2005, 05:45 AM

ok... the drives i am using... all but one came from HP and the cadges are where the ids are set... and they all have sepearate ones... i did all the easy stuff... here are some shots of the drives... no jumpers anywhere on these... plus i tried a seagate st51080n out side the cadges with the jumpers set correctly... it sees em all... just still can't do anything with ANY of em...

cougar97536 · 08-06-2005, 05:52 AM

sorry here they are... it didn't like my picks before... :(

**linderman** · 08-06-2005, 05:59 AM

hmmmm / interesting conflict here !!

try removing other two drives (just unplug the power from them) then see if you can get into scsi bios (actually your trying to enter the scsi utilities and verify the media ~~ there is a verify media tool in the scsi utilities)

let me know how you progress / the HP drives is GOOD news !!

if you can enter the scsi bios / try looking for a item called "reset scsi bus " change to enable /then reboot ~~ if that doesnt help

then go into scsi bios and reset to default settings / then reboot ?????

you know scsi cable problems are very often / we run several scsi servers at work and therefore we keep plenty of cables around the minute one of them burps the first thing the network dude does is change cable ??? just info

regards

joe

cougar97536 · 08-06-2005, 06:14 AM

lol ok here goes

cougar97536 · 08-06-2005, 06:21 AM

nada... same error "no host adapter error" could this be a dead adapter we're dealing with?

08-06-2005, 04:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
cougar97536 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Prospect Oregon Posts: 9 OS: Everything	Scsi Hard Drive Problems... Hi i have an old HP net server here... and i finally got everything else sorted out... but im left with this problem: when the system boots... you get an option to enter the scsi settings right? well when you enter this... and try to acces any hard drive... be it to run a diagnostic or try and format it... it says "Host adapter Status: 00h- no host adapter error" i have tried three drives... and while the utility sees em it can't do anything with em... and trying to boot does nothing... dos, win 98, and win200 all say that i have no fixed disk... any ideas on how to fix this? thanks in advance... Christopher

08-06-2005, 05:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Welcome to the forum: What make & model scsi controller do you have ???? my first choice of diangostics would be try another cable / does you scsi cable have a terminator on it ????? generally speaking scsi controllers need a cable terminator at the end of the cable not occupied by the controller / in other words the controlller card will be connected to one end of the cable and at the opposite end you will need scsi termination and drives dont furnish termination. regards joe __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

08-06-2005, 05:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Ok then the system was primarily set-up by HP / so the termination and such must be fairly correct / how about the drives ????? are they original or did you put them in the machine / two problems in that department scsi id's / all drives are factory set to ID=0 / this is done by setting NO jumper pins on the drive you will need to assign jumper settings to the three drives / only one drive can be ID=0 the others you will need to make 2 & 3 dont use ID=7 / controllers reserve that ID for themselves the other problem if the above doesnt work is HP uses proprietary hardware / meaning you cant just throw in anybody's hard drive / their bios is looking for an HP code from the drives when it cant find that code it starts drooling !! You have two choices there / buy used HP scsi drives off ebay ~~ they are reasonable or move the contoller cards and drives to a different machine (cables are conencted to the controller cards) and abandon the bulk of the HP server regards joe __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial Last edited by linderman; 08-06-2005 at 05:40 AM.

08-06-2005, 05:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 20,437 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	hmmmm / interesting conflict here !! try removing other two drives (just unplug the power from them) then see if you can get into scsi bios (actually your trying to enter the scsi utilities and verify the media ~~ there is a verify media tool in the scsi utilities) let me know how you progress / the HP drives is GOOD news !! if you can enter the scsi bios / try looking for a item called "reset scsi bus " change to enable /then reboot ~~ if that doesnt help then go into scsi bios and reset to default settings / then reboot ????? you know scsi cable problems are very often / we run several scsi servers at work and therefore we keep plenty of cables around the minute one of them burps the first thing the network dude does is change cable ??? just info regards joe __________________ I still know nothing and I respect that fact, striving to improve and, along the way, help anyone that comes from the place that I used to be! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial Last edited by linderman; 08-06-2005 at 06:02 AM.

08-06-2005, 05:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
cougar97536 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Prospect Oregon Posts: 9 OS: Everything	lol the cabling in this thing is really wild (two contollers, hot swap cadges, etc...) but yeah there is a terminator at the end of the long rainbow... and the adapter even sees the drives... just can't do anything with em... the model of the adapters (both on boards from HP) are Adaptec AIC-7870s Bios Rev. 1.2s6 and HP tech support is no help... they have no resorces for anything this old... the full model of this thing is a HP Net Server LS2 btw...

08-06-2005, 05:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
cougar97536 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Prospect Oregon Posts: 9 OS: Everything	id like to think that i have a good mind for problem solving... but this one is messing with me... you know... like moby dick and Cap. Ahab... lmao its late here and you can tell can't you...? thanks again

08-06-2005, 05:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
cougar97536 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Prospect Oregon Posts: 9 OS: Everything	ok... the drives i am using... all but one came from HP and the cadges are where the ids are set... and they all have sepearate ones... i did all the easy stuff... here are some shots of the drives... no jumpers anywhere on these... plus i tried a seagate st51080n out side the cadges with the jumpers set correctly... it sees em all... just still can't do anything with ANY of em...

08-06-2005, 06:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
cougar97536 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Prospect Oregon Posts: 9 OS: Everything	lol ok here goes

08-06-2005, 06:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
cougar97536 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Prospect Oregon Posts: 9 OS: Everything	nada... same error "no host adapter error" could this be a dead adapter we're dealing with?