Missing Gigs and drive letter issue

Nabeshin · 04-24-2005, 04:06 PM

I have a Asus P4C800 Deluxe motherboard and all drive slots are full.(two dvd rw drives and zip + one 200 gig hard drive)
My computer builder added a IDE controller with 4 slots and a new 200 gig hard drive. this drive however only shows up as 127 gig, well below the 186 it should have been. anyway will a bios update fix this or something else maybe?

Also I need to add an additional 200 gig hard drive, this i know will plug into the IDE controller but will I need to manually change Drive letters? My letters go up to K because of my memory card slots for digital camera and video camera. What about master slave settings on this and future drives?

Probably irrelevant but if it helps:
P4C800 Deluxe Asus motherboard
One physical, dual in devise manager, Pentium 4 processor 3.20 GHz
2.00 GB of RAM
Hard drive space for entire ripped CD collection and Video/Picture editing Plus it is cool to have the biggest hard drive/more space than my friends.

**johnwill** · 04-24-2005, 04:37 PM

Two things affect the ability to recognize large drives. A BIOS date earlier than around mid 2002 will usually be limited to 127gigs, and XP without SP1 or 2K without SP4 will only handle 127gig drives.

If you're installing XP from scratch, you can slipstream SP2 onto it and build an SP2 CD, then the installation will recognize the full size of the disk.

You can change the drive letters easily in XP, so that shouldn't be a big issue. Master/slave settings will obviously depend on exactly how you install the drive. For any modern system, I recommend you use 80 conductor cables and set all the disks to CS (Cable Select).

What hard disk controller did your builder add, make/model?

Nabeshin · 04-24-2005, 05:16 PM

The controller is...

Promise Technology Inc. Ultra IDE Controller

Is there a Service pack 4?

80 conductor cables are the regular drive calbes right?
My computer's builder usually does all of this stuff but it takes days and would be cheaper if I could do it myself.

**johnwill** · 04-24-2005, 05:52 PM

Note I said 2K-SP4, XP is at SP2 right now.

Since you have the Promise controller, I suspect the problem you have is that XP was not patched when you initially loaded it, thus limiting you to the 127gig size. A 3rd party application like Partition Magic can resize that partition now that you probably have at least SP1 installed on the machine.

Nabeshin · 04-24-2005, 06:07 PM

Partition Magic could only resize up to the 127 gig.
Could the Bios fix it, mine bios are as follows

Model: P4C800
Version: 1002.001
Chipset: 1875P
Date: 4-7-2003
Onboard Sound: None (woa)
Onboard Lan: Exist (w)
BIOS Size: 512k

crazijoe · 04-25-2005, 05:38 AM

In your first post you stated:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabeshin

I have a Asus P4C800 Deluxe motherboard and all drive slots are full.(two dvd rw drives and zip + one 200 gig hard drive)

Then you stated:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabeshin

My computer builder added a IDE controller with 4 slots and a new 200 gig hard drive. this drive however only shows up as 127 gig, well below the 186 it should have been.

I am assuming that the 200GB drive, that you have in the system before the new one,is working fine and you can use the entire drive. The second drive was add to the system on a separate controller but can ony see 127GB of the drive. What it appears to me is either the add in controller does not support 48 bit LBA or the parameters of the HD are not set correctly in the add in controllers BIOS.

**johnwill** · 04-25-2005, 06:09 PM

I guess we need to know the exact model of the Promise controller, as well as the firmware version. I use several of them, and they all support 48bit LBA.

Nabeshin · 04-26-2005, 01:58 PM

That is all that I know about the IDE controller. The devise manager says no more about product version or model. The driver version(what I hope you are asking) is 5.1.2600.2180
My computer builder, whom I should have contacted earlier, said that the problem is most likely an "INT13 issue." I am unaware of the meaning of his impications and I hope that you may be able to enlighten my perspective on this matter.

In other words tell me what an "INT13 issue" is.

My builder has yet to respond to my inquiry about scheduling a meeting to resolve this problem.

04-24-2005, 04:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Nabeshin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4 OS: XP Professional Sp2	Missing Gigs and drive letter issue I have a Asus P4C800 Deluxe motherboard and all drive slots are full.(two dvd rw drives and zip + one 200 gig hard drive) My computer builder added a IDE controller with 4 slots and a new 200 gig hard drive. this drive however only shows up as 127 gig, well below the 186 it should have been. anyway will a bios update fix this or something else maybe? Also I need to add an additional 200 gig hard drive, this i know will plug into the IDE controller but will I need to manually change Drive letters? My letters go up to K because of my memory card slots for digital camera and video camera. What about master slave settings on this and future drives? Probably irrelevant but if it helps: P4C800 Deluxe Asus motherboard One physical, dual in devise manager, Pentium 4 processor 3.20 GHz 2.00 GB of RAM Hard drive space for entire ripped CD collection and Video/Picture editing Plus it is cool to have the biggest hard drive/more space than my friends.

04-24-2005, 04:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,787 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Two things affect the ability to recognize large drives. A BIOS date earlier than around mid 2002 will usually be limited to 127gigs, and XP without SP1 or 2K without SP4 will only handle 127gig drives. If you're installing XP from scratch, you can slipstream SP2 onto it and build an SP2 CD, then the installation will recognize the full size of the disk. You can change the drive letters easily in XP, so that shouldn't be a big issue. Master/slave settings will obviously depend on exactly how you install the drive. For any modern system, I recommend you use 80 conductor cables and set all the disks to CS (Cable Select). What hard disk controller did your builder add, make/model? __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

04-24-2005, 05:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,787 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	Note I said 2K-SP4, XP is at SP2 right now. Since you have the Promise controller, I suspect the problem you have is that XP was not patched when you initially loaded it, thus limiting you to the 127gig size. A 3rd party application like Partition Magic can resize that partition now that you probably have at least SP1 installed on the machine. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

04-24-2005, 06:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Nabeshin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4 OS: XP Professional Sp2	Partition Magic could only resize up to the 127 gig. Could the Bios fix it, mine bios are as follows Model: P4C800 Version: 1002.001 Chipset: 1875P Date: 4-7-2003 Onboard Sound: None (woa) Onboard Lan: Exist (w) BIOS Size: 512k Last edited by Nabeshin; 04-24-2005 at 06:22 PM.

04-25-2005, 06:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
johnwill Manager, Networking Forums Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S.E. Pennsylvania, US Posts: 41,787 OS: Windows 7, XP-Pro, Vista, Linux Blog Entries: 1	I guess we need to know the exact model of the Promise controller, as well as the firmware version. I use several of them, and they all support 48bit LBA. __________________ If TSF has helped you, Tell us about it! or Donate to help keep the site up! Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

04-24-2005, 05:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
Nabeshin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4 OS: XP Professional Sp2	The controller is... Promise Technology Inc. Ultra IDE Controller Is there a Service pack 4? 80 conductor cables are the regular drive calbes right? My computer's builder usually does all of this stuff but it takes days and would be cheaper if I could do it myself.

04-26-2005, 01:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
Nabeshin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4 OS: XP Professional Sp2	That is all that I know about the IDE controller. The devise manager says no more about product version or model. The driver version(what I hope you are asking) is 5.1.2600.2180 My computer builder, whom I should have contacted earlier, said that the problem is most likely an "INT13 issue." I am unaware of the meaning of his impications and I hope that you may be able to enlighten my perspective on this matter. In other words tell me what an "INT13 issue" is. My builder has yet to respond to my inquiry about scheduling a meeting to resolve this problem.