HD not recognized

fudhimself · 02-12-2009, 01:53 PM

I recently reformatted my computer using Killdisk free edition. Now when i go to format and install windows xp through the xp setup it says it won't recognize my hard drive. In the bios it still is recognized though. Is there anyway i can format the hard drive without the xp cd? Also i don't have a floppy drive installed at the moment so hopefully that isn't necessary. Any help would be great Thanks

Specs

Amd 64 3000+
GA-K8ne mobo
2gig ram
gfce 9800 gt
1 TB Seagate 7200.11

**simpswr** · 02-12-2009, 02:03 PM

and welcome to the Forum

Most newer BIOS allow an Alternate method for installing on a SATA drive. . Go into the bios and check the "Sata Operation" setting, change it to "Raid Autodetect/ATA if it is not already. Now try to install XP ( Verbage will vary by manufacturer )

Tumbleweed36 · 02-12-2009, 02:09 PM

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Is there anyway i can format the hard drive without the xp cd?

Download Seatools (Seagate Hard Drive Utility) on a CD (since you have no floppy) and you can format it easily from there.

Hard Drive Utilities

Darn, I am getting so slow (maybe simpswr is just getting faster) at typing, anyway he beat me again. Oh well, his information is good anyhow.

**raptor_pa** · 02-12-2009, 02:25 PM

Seagate 7200.11 drives have serious firmware issues, see this thread Seagate 7200.11 firmware update cdownload the tool and see if yours is one of the suspect disks and update the firmware if it is.

fudhimself · 02-12-2009, 03:41 PM

I downloaded Seatools but i cannot find in the program where to format from. I can erase and test the drive but i cannot find a format utility.

**simpswr** · 02-12-2009, 03:55 PM

No need to format . . you did that with killdisc . . were you able to set the BIOS to handle the SATA controller as IDE?

fudhimself · 02-12-2009, 04:25 PM

errr sorry i didn't mean i reformatted my computer in my first post, i meant to say i just wiped it clean using killdisk. I couldn't find the bios setting that said that, but any sata settings were set to auto.

right now my hard drive is a clean slate as if newly bought.

**simpswr** · 02-12-2009, 04:41 PM

Then all you need do is install the operating system ( it will format early in the installation ) . . but first you have to get the SATA controller recognized. You can do that by loading the SATA drivers on a floppy and pressing F6 at the prompt, or by settings in the BIOS

What are the options in the SATA settings? . . the verbage will vary by manufacturer

Floppy drives are dirt cheap if you have to go that route

fudhimself · 02-12-2009, 04:59 PM

The settings i have are:

NV IDE/SATA RAID function :enabled
NV Serial-ATA 1: Enabled
NV SATA 1 class code: auto
NV SATA 1 Primary & secondary RAID: both enabled
and the same for NV SATA 2

if i go into the RAID utility it has the hard drive enabled and bootable, but when i go into windows xp setup it still wont recognize it.

is it possible the hd just failed? i was reading that they have like a 30-40% failure rate.

**raptor_pa** · 02-12-2009, 06:00 PM

See simps post above your last about pressing f6 to load the SATA drivers

**simpswr** · 02-12-2009, 07:51 PM

Disable all the RAID options . . unless you have a RAID aray of discs

fudhimself · 02-13-2009, 01:27 AM

I came upon another problem, theres no floppy drive on my laptop that i could copy the file onto but i managed to copy the files from a cd to the floppy using an ultimate boot disk thing. When i go into windows setup and hit f6 at the start it asks me to insert the disk into drive A: and hit enter. When i hit enter it won't read it.

I'm not positive it copied due to the ultimate boot disk dos format being very confusing. Is it possible to use a thumb drive to do any of this?

**simpswr** · 02-13-2009, 09:02 AM

Noe . . unfortuntely, to use the F6 to load the SATA drivers it has to be on a floppy . . XP will not use anything else.

You can us nlite to slipstream the SATA drivers into a new install cd . .

http://www.nliteos.com/guide/

But first, try setting your BIOS to defaults, then chabge toi boot order to CD first and see if it will install

fudhimself · 02-15-2009, 10:59 AM

little update... tried resetting the bios to default, tried usin nlite to put the drivers into the setup. none of which have worked so far. Getting pretty frustrated as i recently purchased a new videocard and the hd is fairly new heh. Do you guys have any other ideas or am I just out of luck if those thing don't work?

**simpswr** · 02-15-2009, 11:33 AM

After resetting BIOS, did you then set it to boot first from CD?

When you say nlite did not work . . what exactly happened . . many of us use it all the time

fudhimself · 02-15-2009, 12:42 PM

I also reset the bios by taking out the battery, i can't find the cmos jumper so i didn't go that route. The cd was made fine, slipped in the SATA drivers. Still having the same problem of it not recognizing the hard drive.

I'm off at college so everyone has laptops and no floppy drives for me to load the drivers onto. So i guess my last option is to go back home and load them off my parents desktop? Running out of options heh.

**simpswr** · 02-15-2009, 01:10 PM

Did you use the right SATA drivers when you made the nLite cd? . . you should use the ones intended to be put on the floppy . . just intergrate into the nLite cd

fudhimself · 02-15-2009, 03:45 PM

well it works now... randomly

i used my roomates sata hd which by itself wasn't able to work. But i set it in a RAID array with mine and that worked. so i unplugged his, and just left mine in, deleted the array. Booted to xp cd and now i'm formatting it.

Ridiculous after all that trouble it randomly decides it wants to work? ha ha

02-12-2009, 01:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
fudhimself Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 13 OS: windows xp sp3	HD not recognized I recently reformatted my computer using Killdisk free edition. Now when i go to format and install windows xp through the xp setup it says it won't recognize my hard drive. In the bios it still is recognized though. Is there anyway i can format the hard drive without the xp cd? Also i don't have a floppy drive installed at the moment so hopefully that isn't necessary. Any help would be great Thanks Specs Amd 64 3000+ GA-K8ne mobo 2gig ram gfce 9800 gt 1 TB Seagate 7200.11

02-12-2009, 02:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
simpswr Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 12,274 OS: XP, Vista, Win 7	Re: HD not recognized and welcome to the Forum Most newer BIOS allow an Alternate method for installing on a SATA drive. . Go into the bios and check the "*Sata Operation" setting, change it to "Raid Autodetect/ATA* if it is not already. Now try to install XP ( Verbage will vary by manufacturer ) __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Virus/Trojan/Spyware Help How to post a Screen Shot \| PC running slow?

02-12-2009, 02:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
raptor_pa Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central PA Posts: 4,896 OS: XP	Re: HD not recognized Seagate 7200.11 drives have serious firmware issues, see this thread Seagate 7200.11 firmware update cdownload the tool and see if yours is one of the suspect disks and update the firmware if it is. __________________

02-12-2009, 03:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
fudhimself Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 13 OS: windows xp sp3	Re: HD not recognized I downloaded Seatools but i cannot find in the program where to format from. I can erase and test the drive but i cannot find a format utility.

02-12-2009, 03:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
simpswr Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 12,274 OS: XP, Vista, Win 7	Re: HD not recognized No need to format . . you did that with killdisc . . were you able to set the BIOS to handle the SATA controller as IDE? __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Virus/Trojan/Spyware Help How to post a Screen Shot \| PC running slow?

02-12-2009, 04:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
fudhimself Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 13 OS: windows xp sp3	Re: HD not recognized errr sorry i didn't mean i reformatted my computer in my first post, i meant to say i just wiped it clean using killdisk. I couldn't find the bios setting that said that, but any sata settings were set to auto. right now my hard drive is a clean slate as if newly bought.

02-12-2009, 04:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
simpswr Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 12,274 OS: XP, Vista, Win 7	Re: HD not recognized Then all you need do is install the operating system ( it will format early in the installation ) . . but first you have to get the SATA controller recognized. You can do that by loading the SATA drivers on a floppy and pressing F6 at the prompt, or by settings in the BIOS What are the options in the SATA settings? . . the verbage will vary by manufacturer Floppy drives are dirt cheap if you have to go that route __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Virus/Trojan/Spyware Help How to post a Screen Shot \| PC running slow? Last edited by simpswr; 02-12-2009 at 04:43 PM.

02-12-2009, 04:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
fudhimself Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 13 OS: windows xp sp3	Re: HD not recognized The settings i have are: NV IDE/SATA RAID function :enabled NV Serial-ATA 1: Enabled NV SATA 1 class code: auto NV SATA 1 Primary & secondary RAID: both enabled and the same for NV SATA 2 if i go into the RAID utility it has the hard drive enabled and bootable, but when i go into windows xp setup it still wont recognize it. is it possible the hd just failed? i was reading that they have like a 30-40% failure rate. Last edited by fudhimself; 02-12-2009 at 05:26 PM.

02-12-2009, 06:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
raptor_pa Mod Hardware Team Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Central PA Posts: 4,896 OS: XP	Re: HD not recognized See simps post above your last about pressing f6 to load the SATA drivers __________________

02-12-2009, 07:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
simpswr Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 12,274 OS: XP, Vista, Win 7	Re: HD not recognized Disable all the RAID options . . unless you have a RAID aray of discs __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Virus/Trojan/Spyware Help How to post a Screen Shot \| PC running slow?

02-13-2009, 01:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
fudhimself Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 13 OS: windows xp sp3	Re: HD not recognized I came upon another problem, theres no floppy drive on my laptop that i could copy the file onto but i managed to copy the files from a cd to the floppy using an ultimate boot disk thing. When i go into windows setup and hit f6 at the start it asks me to insert the disk into drive A: and hit enter. When i hit enter it won't read it. I'm not positive it copied due to the ultimate boot disk dos format being very confusing. Is it possible to use a thumb drive to do any of this?

02-13-2009, 09:02 AM	#13 (permalink)
simpswr Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 12,274 OS: XP, Vista, Win 7	Re: HD not recognized Noe . . unfortuntely, to use the F6 to load the SATA drivers it has to be on a floppy . . XP will not use anything else. You can us nlite to slipstream the SATA drivers into a new install cd . . http://www.nliteos.com/guide/ But first, try setting your BIOS to defaults, then chabge toi boot order to CD first and see if it will install __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Virus/Trojan/Spyware Help How to post a Screen Shot \| PC running slow?

02-15-2009, 10:59 AM	#14 (permalink)
fudhimself Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 13 OS: windows xp sp3	Re: HD not recognized little update... tried resetting the bios to default, tried usin nlite to put the drivers into the setup. none of which have worked so far. Getting pretty frustrated as i recently purchased a new videocard and the hd is fairly new heh. Do you guys have any other ideas or am I just out of luck if those thing don't work?

02-15-2009, 11:33 AM	#15 (permalink)
simpswr Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 12,274 OS: XP, Vista, Win 7	Re: HD not recognized After resetting BIOS, did you then set it to boot first from CD? When you say nlite did not work . . what exactly happened . . many of us use it all the time __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Virus/Trojan/Spyware Help How to post a Screen Shot \| PC running slow?

02-15-2009, 12:42 PM	#16 (permalink)
fudhimself Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 13 OS: windows xp sp3	Re: HD not recognized I also reset the bios by taking out the battery, i can't find the cmos jumper so i didn't go that route. The cd was made fine, slipped in the SATA drivers. Still having the same problem of it not recognizing the hard drive. I'm off at college so everyone has laptops and no floppy drives for me to load the drivers onto. So i guess my last option is to go back home and load them off my parents desktop? Running out of options heh.

02-15-2009, 01:10 PM	#17 (permalink)
simpswr Moderator Hardware Team Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 12,274 OS: XP, Vista, Win 7	Re: HD not recognized Did you use the right SATA drivers when you made the nLite cd? . . you should use the ones intended to be put on the floppy . . just intergrate into the nLite cd __________________ Rich MemTest86 \| BenchTest \| Virus/Trojan/Spyware Help How to post a Screen Shot \| PC running slow?

02-15-2009, 03:45 PM	#18 (permalink)
fudhimself Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 13 OS: windows xp sp3	Re: HD not recognized well it works now... randomly i used my roomates sata hd which by itself wasn't able to work. But i set it in a RAID array with mine and that worked. so i unplugged his, and just left mine in, deleted the array. Booted to xp cd and now i'm formatting it. Ridiculous after all that trouble it randomly decides it wants to work? ha ha