Booting problem with cloned IDE drive

CTPhil · 11-25-2008, 05:32 AM

I used Seagate DiscWizard to clone a SATA drive to an IDE drive on my Dell 4600. I set the BIOS to boot from the IDE, (SATA is removed) and the BIOS does see the drive.

But on boot, no drives are found. I press esc to continue booting, and am given the choice of F1 (boot) or F2 (Bios). When I press F1, it boots as it should.

But what can I do to get it to boot unattended? It also seems to take longer than before.

Is this a MBR issue? Does Windows create a different boot.ini depending on the drive type? Or is it something completely different?

Any help will be much appreciated.

dai · 11-25-2008, 05:53 AM

boot into the recovery console and run
fixboot

CTPhil · 11-25-2008, 06:46 AM

Thanks, I will try that.

CTPhil · 11-26-2008, 05:57 AM

I guess I'm stumped.

I installed the Recovery Console, and after battling with "hal.dll missing or corrupted" errors, (it wasn't), finally ran fixboot, nothing changed. I did notice that I didn't have a "boot.ini" on C, just "boot_sav", so I copied boot_sav and renamed it boot.ini, no change. Boot.ini has Windows on partition 1, which seems right since there is only one partition.

On boot I'm still getting drives 0,1,2,3 not found. I updated the BIOS, no help there.

hitech · 11-26-2008, 08:16 AM

see if you have a disable sata option in bios. also see if you have a seperate hardrive selection in boot options

CTPhil · 11-26-2008, 10:15 AM

I do have a disable SATA option in BIOS, I've tried it both on/off.

I don't have a harddrive selection in boot options, just "normal BIOS startup", CD ROM, and floppy. Not a lot to work with in this BIOS.

**linderman** · 11-26-2008, 01:16 PM

disc wizard has a very poor cloning tool IMHO

if your original boot drive is still intact and not giving you any problems ....... the I suggest you re-clone your sata drive with xxclone

you will find xxclone has it all over disc wizard in a major way! its easy to use and has a free version

here is a "how to guide"

http://www.techsupportforum.com/cont...ticles/47.html

CTPhil · 11-26-2008, 08:04 PM

Thanks, I can easily do that.

So do you mean that there may have been file corruption during cloning?

**linderman** · 11-27-2008, 05:55 AM

dont think its really a corruption as much as the disc wizard cloning tool is just not full featured enough to meet all conditions

I have seen your EXACT problem at least 5-8 times before ....... xxclone solved it each time ................. that aint a bad batting average :)

CTPhil · 11-27-2008, 09:55 AM

Thank you for sharing your experience, that will be my next step.

11-25-2008, 05:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
CTPhil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21 OS: xp home sp2	Booting problem with cloned IDE drive I used Seagate DiscWizard to clone a SATA drive to an IDE drive on my Dell 4600. I set the BIOS to boot from the IDE, (SATA is removed) and the BIOS does see the drive. But on boot, no drives are found. I press esc to continue booting, and am given the choice of F1 (boot) or F2 (Bios). When I press F1, it boots as it should. But what can I do to get it to boot unattended? It also seems to take longer than before. Is this a MBR issue? Does Windows create a different boot.ini depending on the drive type? Or is it something completely different? Any help will be much appreciated.

11-25-2008, 05:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
dai Manager, Hardware Forums Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: west australia Posts: 53,622 OS: vista 32x 64x ultimate retail	Re: Booting problem with cloned IDE drive boot into the recovery console and run fixboot __________________

11-25-2008, 06:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
CTPhil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21 OS: xp home sp2	Re: Booting problem with cloned IDE drive Thanks, I will try that.

11-26-2008, 05:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
CTPhil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21 OS: xp home sp2	Re: Booting problem with cloned IDE drive I guess I'm stumped. I installed the Recovery Console, and after battling with "hal.dll missing or corrupted" errors, (it wasn't), finally ran fixboot, nothing changed. I did notice that I didn't have a "boot.ini" on C, just "boot_sav", so I copied boot_sav and renamed it boot.ini, no change. Boot.ini has Windows on partition 1, which seems right since there is only one partition. On boot I'm still getting drives 0,1,2,3 not found. I updated the BIOS, no help there. Last edited by CTPhil; 11-26-2008 at 05:59 AM.

11-26-2008, 08:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
hitech Tech Hardware Team Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 566 OS: Windows	Re: Booting problem with cloned IDE drive see if you have a disable sata option in bios. also see if you have a seperate hardrive selection in boot options __________________

11-26-2008, 10:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
CTPhil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21 OS: xp home sp2	Re: Booting problem with cloned IDE drive I do have a disable SATA option in BIOS, I've tried it both on/off. I don't have a harddrive selection in boot options, just "normal BIOS startup", CD ROM, and floppy. Not a lot to work with in this BIOS.

11-26-2008, 01:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 19,383 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: Booting problem with cloned IDE drive disc wizard has a very poor cloning tool IMHO if your original boot drive is still intact and not giving you any problems ....... the I suggest you re-clone your sata drive with xxclone you will find xxclone has it all over disc wizard in a major way! its easy to use and has a free version here is a "how to guide" http://www.techsupportforum.com/cont...ticles/47.html __________________ Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day ! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

11-26-2008, 08:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
CTPhil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21 OS: xp home sp2	Re: Booting problem with cloned IDE drive Thanks, I can easily do that. So do you mean that there may have been file corruption during cloning?

11-27-2008, 05:55 AM	#9 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 19,383 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: Booting problem with cloned IDE drive dont think its really a corruption as much as the disc wizard cloning tool is just not full featured enough to meet all conditions I have seen your EXACT problem at least 5-8 times before ....... xxclone solved it each time ................. that aint a bad batting average :) __________________ Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day ! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

11-27-2008, 09:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
CTPhil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21 OS: xp home sp2	Re: Booting problem with cloned IDE drive Thank you for sharing your experience, that will be my next step.