New SATA HDD Problem

johno187 · 11-17-2008, 08:30 AM

I am currently trying to fit an additional SATA HDD to my current system, which runs on an old serial cable setup. I have bought a coupler and sata converter and installed it all. However when i run the system up it fails to find the operating system on my old HDD, when i enter setup i hit auto detect HDD and change it to manual, but its not finding any HDD at all. I have tried swapping it from Master to Slave on the ribbon cable, and vice versa again, and still no joy.

Any help greatly appreciated.

**linderman** · 11-17-2008, 08:37 AM

I am confused ...... sata drives dont have a master or a slave

if your motherboard does not have an onboard sata controller then you will need a PCI slot sata controller card to connect the drive to ?

**linderman** · 11-17-2008, 08:41 AM

can you provide a link to your couplers and adapters ?

here is what I would have used in your position :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816318002

johno187 · 11-18-2008, 12:15 AM

they are as follows:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SATA-Serial-AT...1%7C240%3A1318
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IDE-Coupler-Jo...1%7C240%3A1318

i am trying to fit it internally, on the IDE Ribbon it has two female IDE connectors. I have the original HDD on one, the SATA is attached through the above equipment.

johno187 · 11-19-2008, 06:13 AM

can anyone help?? sorry to re-post but don't want it to disappear

**linderman** · 11-19-2008, 07:34 AM

I think you are headed in the wrong direction .......... my previous experience is getting all these adapters to work is a nightmare and full of incompatabilities

the real dependable solution is to use a "naked" USB enclosure ........ dont mount the drives and dont put the skin on the enclosure....... then you can swap rahter quickly ....... your method now would require a system shutdown and restart each time you want to add or change a drive ........ YUCK .........provided you can get all these adapters to work ....... IDE cables need "jumpers" to make drives share one IDE channel......... sata drives dont like jumpers ...... they want to be solo on the channel ...... there is your dilemma ?

johno187 · 11-20-2008, 03:49 AM

Ok no worries, swapping from one drive to the next aint ideal. Will have a look into simply adding it as an external HDD or something. Thanks for all your help Linderman, very much appreciated.

11-17-2008, 08:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
johno187 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 9 OS: XP	New SATA HDD Problem I am currently trying to fit an additional SATA HDD to my current system, which runs on an old serial cable setup. I have bought a coupler and sata converter and installed it all. However when i run the system up it fails to find the operating system on my old HDD, when i enter setup i hit auto detect HDD and change it to manual, but its not finding any HDD at all. I have tried swapping it from Master to Slave on the ribbon cable, and vice versa again, and still no joy. Any help greatly appreciated.

11-17-2008, 08:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 19,375 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: New SATA HDD Problem I am confused ...... sata drives dont have a master or a slave if your motherboard does not have an onboard sata controller then you will need a PCI slot sata controller card to connect the drive to ? __________________ Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day ! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

11-17-2008, 08:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 19,375 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: New SATA HDD Problem can you provide a link to your couplers and adapters ? here is what I would have used in your position : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16816318002 __________________ Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day ! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

11-18-2008, 12:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
johno187 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Re: New SATA HDD Problem they are as follows: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SATA-Serial-AT...1%7C240%3A1318 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/IDE-Coupler-Jo...1%7C240%3A1318 i am trying to fit it internally, on the IDE Ribbon it has two female IDE connectors. I have the original HDD on one, the SATA is attached through the above equipment.

11-19-2008, 06:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
johno187 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Re: New SATA HDD Problem can anyone help?? sorry to re-post but don't want it to disappear

11-19-2008, 07:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
linderman Moderator, Hardware Team Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 19,375 OS: win 2000 pro / Win XP pro My System	Re: New SATA HDD Problem I think you are headed in the wrong direction .......... my previous experience is getting all these adapters to work is a nightmare and full of incompatabilities the real dependable solution is to use a "naked" USB enclosure ........ dont mount the drives and dont put the skin on the enclosure....... then you can swap rahter quickly ....... your method now would require a system shutdown and restart each time you want to add or change a drive ........ YUCK .........provided you can get all these adapters to work ....... IDE cables need "jumpers" to make drives share one IDE channel......... sata drives dont like jumpers ...... they want to be solo on the channel ...... there is your dilemma ? __________________ Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day ! Power Supply Selection LEARN TO BACK-UP YOUR DATA FREE & EASY YouTube - Runtime Software DriveImage XML tutorial

11-20-2008, 03:49 AM	#7 (permalink)
johno187 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 9 OS: XP	Re: New SATA HDD Problem Ok no worries, swapping from one drive to the next aint ideal. Will have a look into simply adding it as an external HDD or something. Thanks for all your help Linderman, very much appreciated.