Installing a SATA HDD

sleppy · 07-22-2008, 09:24 PM

I know, I know.. you guys must have gotten hundreds of these, but I did search and couldn't find anything. Perhaps, someone may help me with this!

OS: Windows XP
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128044
SATA HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148262

I have it on SATA 0 and BIOS detects it and when windows starts up, I get the 'safely remove hardware' icon. I'm not sure if I have the SATA Controller driver, but I did install the latest SATA/RAID downloads for my mobo.

Do I have to or should I put an OS on it? I plan on using 1 IDE HDD with the SATA drive, so I'm not sure if it is necessary.

How do I get this SATA up and running?

**belfasteddie** · 07-22-2008, 10:03 PM

I installed the same H/D a couple of months ago, although I did a fresh install of Xp pro. No probs at all. It's the quietest H/d I have come across.
If your running a Sata and an Ide then you would normally run the Os on the Sata and then you have to change the boot priority in the Bios. You don't need to change the Ide to slave.

sleppy · 07-22-2008, 10:15 PM

Alright, how do I install the OS on the SATA? Just boot the disk and do it the same as any reformat goes? Do I have to do something to the IDE drive or can I just leave it as it is?

sleppy · 07-23-2008, 01:11 AM

Just tried to install an OS on the SATA but it didn't get show up on the Windows Installation, only my IDE HD.

Also something to note - as my computer was starting up, it said something about my SATA and F10, so I followed and it took me to Disk Array, and I'm not sure what I did but it's striped arrayed now. It still gives me a F10 RAID option every time I boot up..

vladimirb · 07-23-2008, 02:05 AM

Hey mate,
if you want to install OS on SATA HDD, you must have slipstreamed CD with Operating System + SATA drivers on it...
To make slipstreamed CD read this:

http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstreamed_xpsp2_cd.htm

If you have Floppy Disk Drive you could download SATA drivers and put it on floppy...
1. Start PC...
2. When it prompts you to press any key to continue, do it...
3. As soon as setup start, press F6 couple of times...
4. Setup will continue and after 30 seconds or maybe more, you will be able to choose which one SATA driver you want to install...
5. Setup will continue and you will see SATA HDD along with PATA HDD...

Hope this will help you mate...

sleppy · 07-23-2008, 02:53 AM

Hey, thanks for the response. I have a self-made Windows XP Pro SP2 Intergrated Auto CD, it's not the actual WinXP disk. So I can't really copy the files, when I try it doesn't fully copy it over for some reason. Also this may seem a bit foolish but I don't think I have fully updated my OS to SP2 due to the genuine notifications. Is there a way to check?

Is there anything else I can do? (I don't have a floppy disk drive).

I found this article, but I don't have a genuine winxp disk. Can anyone confirm?
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Windows-XP-On-SATA-Without-a-Floppy-F6-47807.shtml

~~wiseleo~~ · 07-23-2008, 03:37 AM

Here is what you do.

First things first, if you have 2 SATA disks and you striped them, that is very bad. The failure of either disk destroys all data. Get rid of the array in array BIOS (that will lose all data on the array drives!). If you have only one SATA drive and it's configured as a striped array, that's normal.

1. Buy a USB floppy drive and a box of floppies. I have yet to find an unsupported one. I've tested several brands, and they all worked.
2. Download the SATA RAID driver onto a floppy.
3. During Windows Setup, hit F6 and point it this floppy. Let it find the SATA RAID driver. Hit S to use that driver (or whatever it says on the screen).

After this point, Windows will detect your SATA drive and allow you to install itself onto it.

If your USB floppy drive is not being recognized, there are several reasons for it.

1. You may have a built-in floppy drive, that you may want to disable in BIOS.
2. You may need to enable legacy USB emulation in BIOS.
3. You may need to disable legacy USB emulation in BIOS.

Slipstreaming eliminates these steps, but I haven't slipstreamed Windows in a long time. My USB floppy is always a part of my toolkit. :)

sleppy · 07-23-2008, 06:11 PM

I don't want to throw $30+ for a USB floppy drive. I took out a floppy drive from my other computer, but realized I do not have a floppy mobo connector, so I couldn't really do anything.

Is there any way I can just put the drivers on it without installing Windows? :/

~~wiseleo~~ · 07-23-2008, 07:09 PM

Not with your available tools. Buy the floppy drive. Return it if you must.

sleppy · 07-28-2008, 01:58 PM

Alright so, I got a USB Floppy Drive from BestBuy (I could return it even if it's opened).. I installed the OS on my IDE HD because at first it didn't give me an option to F6.

Afterwards, I rebooted with CD and pressed F6 which led to me to:

Quote:

Setup could not determine the type of one or more mass storage devices installed in your system, or you have chosen to manually specify an adapter. Currently, Setup will load support for the following mass storage devices:

<none>

* To specify additional SCSI adapters, CD-ROM drives, or special disk controllers for use with Windows, including those for which you have a device support disk from a mass storage device manufacturer, press S.

* If you do not have any device support disks from a mass storage device manufacturer, or do not want to specify additional mass storage devices for use with Windows, press ENTER.

My USB floppy is connected. So I pressed S, and it said Please insert the desk labeled in A drive or something. I did so, and it said it did not find anything.

Also - I have a dled a windows xp pro application which is already slipstreamed (I burned it through PowerISO), is there an easier way to just add my SATA drivers to that? because I've looked through many slipstream guides and I can't even get it to work through nLite. Not quite sure.

sleppy · 07-28-2008, 03:02 PM

A few factors that might have been an issue:

- I did burn the cd using low speed. I'm going to retry with a different workable cd (from a friend)

- The driver for my SATA came in an exe file. Do I leave it like that on the floppy? Or do I extract all of it and put it on my floppy? Do I leave the exe with the extracted files or not?

vladimirb · 07-28-2008, 03:09 PM

extract file and place it on floppy disc

sleppy · 07-28-2008, 03:44 PM

I just did. I pressed "S" and clicked enter when I was ready and all it said was "make sure to put in desk labeled manufacturer-supplied hardware support disk"

could this be a faulty windows disk?

~~wiseleo~~ · 07-28-2008, 03:58 PM

No. You need to extract the drivers onto the floppy disk. If you do it correctly, you'll have an OEMSETUP.INF in the A:\ folder.

Give me the link to download your drivers and I'll tell you exactly what you need to do for it. :)

sleppy · 07-28-2008, 04:13 PM

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ProductID=2679

sleppy · 07-28-2008, 06:18 PM

I have an OEM file, yes. I'll wait until you double check what I need to have, but I'm pretty sure I have it all.. I think it might be the actual usb floppy drive, is it possible that it isn't being recognized?

~~wiseleo~~ · 07-28-2008, 06:37 PM

It is possible. That is why I listed reasons why it might not be recognized ;-)

You need to disable the built-in floppy controller and possibly enable some USB options to get the drive to be recognized. All that is done in the BIOS. Keep the floppy inside the drive. You want to see a flash of green color when the system is starting up. I've had instances where an empty drive would not get recognized properly.

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...er&FileID=2693 is your file.

I suggest you call Gigabyte's support for exact steps, if necessary.

07-22-2008, 09:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 100 OS: WinXP	Installing a SATA HDD I know, I know.. you guys must have gotten hundreds of these, but I did search and couldn't find anything. Perhaps, someone may help me with this! OS: Windows XP Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128044 SATA HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148262 I have it on SATA 0 and BIOS detects it and when windows starts up, I get the 'safely remove hardware' icon. I'm not sure if I have the SATA Controller driver, but I did install the latest SATA/RAID downloads for my mobo. Do I have to or should I put an OS on it? I plan on using 1 IDE HDD with the SATA drive, so I'm not sure if it is necessary. How do I get this SATA up and running?

07-22-2008, 10:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
belfasteddie TSF Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 664 OS: Suse 10.2 64 bit	Re: Installing a SATA HDD I installed the same H/D a couple of months ago, although I did a fresh install of Xp pro. No probs at all. It's the quietest H/d I have come across. If your running a Sata and an Ide then you would normally run the Os on the Sata and then you have to change the boot priority in the Bios. You don't need to change the Ide to slave.

07-22-2008, 10:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 100 OS: WinXP	Re: Installing a SATA HDD Alright, how do I install the OS on the SATA? Just boot the disk and do it the same as any reformat goes? Do I have to do something to the IDE drive or can I just leave it as it is?

07-23-2008, 01:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 100 OS: WinXP	Re: Installing a SATA HDD Just tried to install an OS on the SATA but it didn't get show up on the Windows Installation, only my IDE HD. Also something to note - as my computer was starting up, it said something about my SATA and F10, so I followed and it took me to Disk Array, and I'm not sure what I did but it's striped arrayed now. It still gives me a F10 RAID option every time I boot up..

07-23-2008, 02:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
vladimirb Hardware Team Tech Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Banja Luka, Bosnia and Herzegovina Posts: 1,466 OS: xp pro sp3, Server 2003 My System	Re: Installing a SATA HDD Hey mate, if you want to install OS on SATA HDD, you must have slipstreamed CD with Operating System + SATA drivers on it... To make slipstreamed CD read this: http://www.theeldergeek.com/slipstreamed_xpsp2_cd.htm If you have Floppy Disk Drive you could download SATA drivers and put it on floppy... 1. Start PC... 2. When it prompts you to press any key to continue, do it... 3. As soon as setup start, press F6 couple of times... 4. Setup will continue and after 30 seconds or maybe more, you will be able to choose which one SATA driver you want to install... 5. Setup will continue and you will see SATA HDD along with PATA HDD... Hope this will help you mate... __________________ Realm: Bronze Dragonflight - EU Undead Rogue --- Level 70 --- Spec: Combat Orc Shaman --- Level 70 --- Spec: Elemental Tauren Warrior --- Level 70 --- Spec: Protection Troll Priest --- Level 63 --- Spec: Shadow

07-23-2008, 02:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 100 OS: WinXP	Re: Installing a SATA HDD Hey, thanks for the response. I have a self-made Windows XP Pro SP2 Intergrated Auto CD, it's not the actual WinXP disk. So I can't really copy the files, when I try it doesn't fully copy it over for some reason. Also this may seem a bit foolish but I don't think I have fully updated my OS to SP2 due to the genuine notifications. Is there a way to check? Is there anything else I can do? (I don't have a floppy disk drive). I found this article, but I don't have a genuine winxp disk. Can anyone confirm? http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Windows-XP-On-SATA-Without-a-Floppy-F6-47807.shtml Last edited by sleppy : 07-23-2008 at 03:12 AM.

07-23-2008, 03:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
~~wiseleo~~ Troubled Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 461 OS: Win 2003 SP2 My System	Re: Installing a SATA HDD Here is what you do. First things first, if you have 2 SATA disks and you striped them, that is very bad. The failure of either disk destroys all data. Get rid of the array in array BIOS (that will lose all data on the array drives!). If you have only one SATA drive and it's configured as a striped array, that's normal. 1. Buy a USB floppy drive and a box of floppies. I have yet to find an unsupported one. I've tested several brands, and they all worked. 2. Download the SATA RAID driver onto a floppy. 3. During Windows Setup, hit F6 and point it this floppy. Let it find the SATA RAID driver. Hit S to use that driver (or whatever it says on the screen). After this point, Windows will detect your SATA drive and allow you to install itself onto it. If your USB floppy drive is not being recognized, there are several reasons for it. 1. You may have a built-in floppy drive, that you may want to disable in BIOS. 2. You may need to enable legacy USB emulation in BIOS. 3. You may need to disable legacy USB emulation in BIOS. Slipstreaming eliminates these steps, but I haven't slipstreamed Windows in a long time. My USB floppy is always a part of my toolkit. :)

07-23-2008, 06:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 100 OS: WinXP	Re: Installing a SATA HDD I don't want to throw $30+ for a USB floppy drive. I took out a floppy drive from my other computer, but realized I do not have a floppy mobo connector, so I couldn't really do anything. Is there any way I can just put the drivers on it without installing Windows? :/

07-23-2008, 07:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
~~wiseleo~~ Troubled Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 461 OS: Win 2003 SP2 My System	Re: Installing a SATA HDD Not with your available tools. Buy the floppy drive. Return it if you must.

07-28-2008, 03:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 100 OS: WinXP	Re: Installing a SATA HDD A few factors that might have been an issue: - I did burn the cd using low speed. I'm going to retry with a different workable cd (from a friend) - The driver for my SATA came in an exe file. Do I leave it like that on the floppy? Or do I extract all of it and put it on my floppy? Do I leave the exe with the extracted files or not?

07-28-2008, 03:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
vladimirb Hardware Team Tech Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Banja Luka, Bosnia and Herzegovina Posts: 1,466 OS: xp pro sp3, Server 2003 My System	Re: Installing a SATA HDD extract file and place it on floppy disc __________________ Realm: Bronze Dragonflight - EU Undead Rogue --- Level 70 --- Spec: Combat Orc Shaman --- Level 70 --- Spec: Elemental Tauren Warrior --- Level 70 --- Spec: Protection Troll Priest --- Level 63 --- Spec: Shadow

07-28-2008, 03:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 100 OS: WinXP	Re: Installing a SATA HDD I just did. I pressed "S" and clicked enter when I was ready and all it said was "make sure to put in desk labeled manufacturer-supplied hardware support disk" could this be a faulty windows disk?

07-28-2008, 03:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
~~wiseleo~~ Troubled Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 461 OS: Win 2003 SP2 My System	Re: Installing a SATA HDD No. You need to extract the drivers onto the floppy disk. If you do it correctly, you'll have an OEMSETUP.INF in the A:\ folder. Give me the link to download your drivers and I'll tell you exactly what you need to do for it. :)

07-28-2008, 04:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 100 OS: WinXP	Re: Installing a SATA HDD http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...ProductID=2679 __________________ Computers hate me. Nothing ever works for me.

07-28-2008, 06:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
sleppy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 100 OS: WinXP	Re: Installing a SATA HDD I have an OEM file, yes. I'll wait until you double check what I need to have, but I'm pretty sure I have it all.. I think it might be the actual usb floppy drive, is it possible that it isn't being recognized? __________________ Computers hate me. Nothing ever works for me.

07-28-2008, 06:37 PM	#17 (permalink)
~~wiseleo~~ Troubled Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 461 OS: Win 2003 SP2 My System	Re: Installing a SATA HDD It is possible. That is why I listed reasons why it might not be recognized ;-) You need to disable the built-in floppy controller and possibly enable some USB options to get the drive to be recognized. All that is done in the BIOS. Keep the floppy inside the drive. You want to see a flash of green color when the system is starting up. I've had instances where an empty drive would not get recognized properly. http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...er&FileID=2693 is your file. I suggest you call Gigabyte's support for exact steps, if necessary.